CFB Playoff Selection Panel Finalized

[jfschellcrna]

can you please help ke understand better how he is an apathetic mess?

not that i need to explain anything to you, but did you not watch him single handedly destroy two football programs by his lack of attention to his job??

[Parseghians theorem]

not that i need to explain anything to you, but did you not watch him single handedly destroy two football programs by his lack of attention to his job??

 

 

you dont need to explain it just to me.

im only asking you to please add a little more substance to your post.

I'd put my money on the fact that he was anything but apathetic (Showing or feeling no interest, enthusiasm, or concern).

he might not have had a stellar W-L record but that doesnt make him unqualified for this committee.

[Sebastianmerckx]

you dont need to explain it just to me.

im only asking you to please add a little more substance to your post.

I'd put my money on the fact that he was anything but apathetic (Showing or feeling no interest, enthusiasm, or concern).

he might not have had a stellar W-L record but that doesnt make him unqualified for this committee.

 

I'll take a bad delete...This is one of the most asinine posts I've ever read. TW is the very definition of apathetic. He's an extremely disengaged recruiter, regularly was fully disinterested in games while they were going on if his team was well behind, his personality in person shows it as well.

[Parseghians theorem]

how do you know he was disinterested?

was he disinterested in NDs 8-0 start. some of the time? all of the time?

do you know Ty personally well?

[Sebastianmerckx]

how do you know he was disinterested?

was he disinterested in NDs 8-0 start. some of the time? all of the time?

do you know Ty personally well?

 

I just said "if his team was well behind". Furthermore, go re-watch some of the games Notre Dame was blown out in while he coached, particularly his last season. I feel very confident you'll see what I'm talking about. Finally, yes I've actually met TW on several occasions...His personality is severely lacking. I'm well aware of your style of posting so this is my final word on the matter with you.

[echo88]

how do you know he was disinterested?

was he disinterested in NDs 8-0 start. some of the time? all of the time?

do you know Ty personally well?

 

Perhaps his notorious penchant for golfing instead of recruiting qualifies as disinterested. And yes, it occurred enough to garner unwanted scrutiny at both Nd and Washington.

[Sebastianmerckx]

Perhaps his notorious penchant for golfing instead of recruiting qualifies as disinterested. And yes, it occurred enough to garner unwanted scrutiny at both Nd and Washington.

 

Yes, this and then some.

[Parseghians theorem]

I just said "if his team was well behind". Furthermore, go re-watch some of the games Notre Dame was blown out in while he coached, particularly his last season. I feel very confident you'll see what I'm talking about. Finally, yes I've actually met TW on several occasions...His personality is severely lacking. I'm well aware of your style of posting so this is my final word on the matter with you.

 

What is my style? I inquire and ask for more. I dont make people respomd.

[Parseghians theorem]

Perhaps his notorious penchant for golfing instead of recruiting qualifies as disinterested. And yes, it occurred enough to garner unwanted scrutiny at both Nd and Washington.

 

the man coached football for 30 years. was named coach of the year once. won the pac 12 at stanford. won 44 games at stanford.

 

he is plenty qualified for the committee. and i would point it he might know more about college football and the on-field product than condy rice.

[Donjuan]

Well, another fun read. Great job you two!

[jfschellcrna]

i just went back and re read those names...........holy crap, mike tranghese??? you've got to be kidding me!!! the guy gutted the big east conference and then bolted, leaving behind 7 miles of bad road.....this proves to me that the NCAA, or who ever chose these people out of a cracker jack box, have no idea what they are doing.....and btw, the retired general is a nice touch......smh......

[nd1baby]

Why not just keep the BCS poll for picking and seeding purposes? We won't be the only ones complaining about being screwed in the future.

[smaster]

I can't believe Barry Alvarez hasn't been named in this thread. Might as well resurrect Yost or Schembechler. He's not just anti-ND, but he is particularly vocal about our so-called "sweetheart deals" over the years. The SEC will inevitably get theirs, but ND could be in trouble with this committee. Weirdly, I have NO beef with this specific SC AD; he's a fair, clean gentleman. Imagine that!

Edited October 15, 2013 by smaster

[piratey]

What's hilarious is all the people who though making a "Playoff" would "Fix" the sport. Like there are these completely objective Monitors out there to judge the sport with fairness...hilarious. You have a 68 team CBB tournament that still causes bitching from at least 4-5 schools who feel left out. This thing is 4 now. It'll be 8 in a few years. Then 16. We'll have 3 loss teams playing for a chance at the NCG and the sport will be ruined.

 

No longer will the September matchup hold any importance. It'll be like CBB, where two top 10 teams, Michigan State and UNC, play on an Air Craft Carrier and no one cares.

[Parseghians theorem]

there will still be top 25 and coaches poll.

those likely hovering in the top 4 there are in playoffs.

 

also, if ND goes 11-1 or 12-0, more often than not they would be in playoff.

 

think about this, last year would have been ND, bama, oregon and kstate or georgia?

 

until this system proves horrid, let us not be too crazy about it not working.

 

would much rather argue over 4 and 5 than 1 and 2.

 

games early will matter because u still have to win to make postseason.

i believe we will see 8 team within 10 years.

 

and piratey, If u lost early but played awesome and gelled late good for you. u have a shot to win it all.

 

NFL is mega popular and sometimes teams win it all with 6 or 7 losses.

 

playoffs will be AWESOME in FBC.

and for the basketball argument ... if you are left out at No. 68 ... sorry bout it

Edited October 15, 2013 by Parseghian's theorem

[VCDomer]

there will still be top 25 and coaches poll.

those likely hovering in the top 4 there are in playoffs.

 

also, if ND goes 11-1 or 12-0, more often than not they would be in playoff.

 

think about this, last year would have been ND, bama, oregon and kstate or georgia?

 

until this system proves horrid, let us not be too crazy about it not working.

 

would much rather argue over 4 and 5 than 1 and 2.

 

games early will matter because u still have to win to make postseason.

i believe we will see 8 team within 10 years.

 

and piratey, If u lost early but played awesome and gelled late good for you. u have a shot to win it all.

 

NFL is mega popular and sometimes teams win it all with 6 or 7 losses.

 

playoffs will be AWESOME in FBC.

and for the basketball argument ... if you are left out at No. 68 ... sorry bout it

 

I believe that there will be an 8 team playoff soon as well. They need to see how this 4 team and committee structure works first and iron out the bugs, but the $ will drive it to 8 IMHO. I like the idea that teams cant pad their first 3 games with patsy's anymore (or as much) since that strength of schedule is supposed to matter in the playoff scenario.

[Parseghians theorem]

I believe that there will be an 8 team playoff soon as well. They need to see how this 4 team and committee structure works first and iron out the bugs, but the $ will drive it to 8 IMHO. I like the idea that teams cant pad their first 3 games with patsy's anymore (or as much) since that strength of schedule is supposed to matter in the playoff scenario.

 

Im interested in seeing the money lost for FCS schools if they dont see as many games. but SEC likely will still play them and get credit still because the SEC is SUCH a juggernaut

[piratey]

I believe that there will be an 8 team playoff soon as well. They need to see how this 4 team and committee structure works first and iron out the bugs, but the $ will drive it to 8 IMHO. I like the idea that teams cant pad their first 3 games with patsy's anymore (or as much) since that strength of schedule is supposed to matter in the playoff scenario.

 

...Seriously? SoS plays a factor in the BCS now. Nothing about a playoff changes anything pertaining to SoS. Florida can still never leave the state for an OOC game(They haven't left Florida for an OOC since 1991)

 

Teams will continue to pad their schedule as long as a W counts as a W. Look at the lists below. Tell me how a "Committee" is going to re-slot teams based on SoS

 

2012

1 Notre Dame 12-0

2 Alabama 12-1

3 Florida 11-1

4 Oregon 11-1

5 Kansas State 11-1

6 Stanford 11-2

7 Georgia 11-2

8 LSU 10-2

9 Texas A&M 10-2

10 South Carolina 10-2

11 Oklahoma 10-2

12 Florida State 11-2

13 Oregon State 9-3

 

2011

1 LSU 13-0

2 Alabama 11-1

3 Oklahoma State 11-1

4 Stanford 11-1

5 Oregon 11-2

6 Arkansas 10-2

7 Boise State 11-1

8 Kansas State 10-2

9 South Carolina 10-2

10 Wisconsin 11-2

11 Virginia Tech 11-2

12 Baylor 9-3

13 Michigan 10-2

 

2010

1 Auburn 13-0

2 Oregon 12-0

3 TCU 12-0

4 Stanford 11-1

5 Wisconsin 11-1

6 Ohio State 11-1

7 Oklahoma 11-2

8 Arkansas 10-2

9 Michigan State 11-1

10 Boise State 11-1

11 LSU 10-2

12 Missouri 10-2

13 Virginia Tech 11-2

 

Does Oregon get kicked out of the top 8 because their OOC was

Arkansas St, Fresno State and Tennessee Tech? No. They won't. And frankly, it'd be an utterly frightening concept to allow for a panel to decide SoS in an eight team playoff...because it would dissolve into chaos the first time you have an 11-1 MSU left out in favor two 2-loss teams like in 2010 or SEC South Carolina getting left out over Boise State like in 2011 or the madness that was the 7 two-loss teams last year...

Edited October 15, 2013 by piratey

[Rockets Revenge]

...Seriously? SoS plays a factor in the BCS now. Nothing about a playoff changes anything pertaining to SoS. Florida can still never leave the state for an OOC game(They haven't left Florida for an OOC since 1991)

 

Teams will continue to pad their schedule as long as a W counts as a W. Look at the lists below. Tell me how a "Committee" is going to re-slot teams based on SoS

 

Does Oregon get kicked out of the top 8 because their OOC was

Arkansas St, Fresno State and Tennessee Tech? No. They won't. And frankly, it'd be an utterly frightening concept to allow for a panel to decide SoS in an eight team playoff...because it would dissolve into chaos the first time you have an 11-1 MSU left out in favor two 2-loss teams like in 2010 or SEC South Carolina getting left out over Boise State like in 2011 or the madness that was the 7 two-loss teams last year...

 

SOS is factored into the computer rankings but we don't know how much weight the human voters put towards SOS. To be fair to Florida there are some pretty good teams in the state. This year they play Miami & FSU in addition to an SEC schedule. That is a pretty fair schedule even if they do play Ga Southern.

 

I think SOS is going to matter to the committe to a degree. Last year there was ND and (4) 1 loss teams. So which one do you leave out? Well one thing to consider is non-conference SOS. Miami, FSU, & Ga Southern would rate higher than Arkansas St, Fresno State and Tennessee Tech.

 

I still think they need to go to 16. FCS was at 16 for years and then went to 20. 1 automatic bid for each conference winner and 6 at-large bids. Seed accordingly. Higher seeds get home field for each of the first 2 rounds. Final 4 is played in major bowls like current playoff set to go in effect next year. This helps keep all regular season games meaningful.

[piratey]

SOS is factored into the computer rankings but we don't know how much weight the human voters put towards SOS. To be fair to Florida there are some pretty good teams in the state. This year they play Miami & FSU in addition to an SEC schedule. That is a pretty fair schedule even if they do play Ga Southern.

 

I think SOS is going to matter to the committe to a degree. Last year there was ND and (4) 1 loss teams. So which one do you leave out? Well one thing to consider is non-conference SOS. Miami, FSU, & Ga Southern would rate higher than Arkansas St, Fresno State and Tennessee Tech.

 

I still think they need to go to 16. FCS was at 16 for years and then went to 20. 1 automatic bid for each conference winner and 6 at-large bids. Seed accordingly. Higher seeds get home field for each of the first 2 rounds. Final 4 is played in major bowls like current playoff set to go in effect next year. This helps keep all regular season games meaningful.

 

If it goes to 16, then the regular season means almost nothing...

 

It means a couple of things....

1.Winning a conference title game is meaningless, odds are you'll still come to the party

2.Rematches would be common place...everyone loves rematches right!?

3. Using a 10 year sample size(since '02)

Teams ranked in the top 16 with more 3+ losses

2002

10 PSU 9-3

12 Colorado 9-3

13 Michigan 9-3

14 Alabama 10-3

15 West Virginia 9-3

16 Florida State 9-4

2003

11 Purdue 9-3

12 Iowa 9-3

13 Kansas State 10-3

15 Washington State 9-3

16 Florida 8-4

2004

10 Virginia Tech 10-3

11 Miami (FL) 9-3

13 Tennessee 10-3

14 Michigan 9-3

15 Florida State 9-3

16 LSU 9-3

2005

16 Florida 8-3

2006

12 Arkansas 10-3

2007

12 Florida 9-3

13 Illinois 9-3

14 Boston College 10-3

15 Clemson 9-3

16 Tennessee 9-4

2008

13 Oklahoma State 9-3

14 Georgia Tech 9-3

15 Georgia 9-3

2009

11 Virginia Tech 9-3

12 LSU 9-3

15 Miami (FL) 9-3

16 West Virginia 9-3

2010

16 Alabama 9-3

2011

12 Baylor 9-3

14 Oklahoma 9-3

15 Clemson 10-3

16 Georgia 10-3

2012

13 Oregon State 9-3

16 Nebraska 10-3

 

You know why it "works" in the FCS? Because no one gives a flying **** about the FCS anyway. Why in gods name would we want to emulate FCS?

Edited October 15, 2013 by piratey