Powlus proud 3 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 As sad as this is to say I think this stems down to Kelly's ego, everyone on this board has slammed this kid numerous times(myself included). So why is he playing Kelly is well deep enough into his tenure to have his guy at QB, I understand he lost golson and that was unfortunate but here comes my point. Can someone tell me outside of T.J Jones, can anyone on this team run a route besides a wide reciver go..DD is a very nice possesion receiver imop... Having said that I think Kelly is fully aware of this and pinned the season on the fact he was not his type of recruit, I'm not saying he didn't try to win... But if there is one thing I seem to see BK's ego as " if it was my guy it would be different" Look I understand this will ruffle some feathers, and would love this community's thoughts/ debates on this topic Tommy isn't great right now I understand that, but the fact we clown on is unjust... This kid could have transferred didn't, never said a word about taking a back seat to golson.. Guys I'm sorry for the rant but tommy deserves better, he stayed the course, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndomer4 532 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The reason he didn't transfer was because he wouldn't start at many schools, and that includes MAC schools and other weak conferences. Also lots of kids come here because of the schooling, so taking a back seat is alright. Rees is terrible we've all seen enough Kelly should not play him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powlus proud 3 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 I do understand you are right so you mean to tell me. A kid that would start at most MAC schools, is our best option ... Then we have issues This was not meant to be a pro tommy thread, it's a bigger statement on Kelly, were playing a 2nd year tight end, 2 freshman(fuller, Robinson) and imop a still raw Daniels.. Guys they don't run routes, and Kelly knows this, we really miss eifert.. He would tailor the coverage scheme into more favorable matchups.. @ndhoosier I'm curious your thoughts as well as @echo88... Your dont dance around your thoughts, and I respect that maybe you guys can add some insight into what I'm missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parseghians theorem 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 As sad as this is to say I think this stems down to Kelly's ego, everyone on this board has slammed this kid numerous times(myself included). So why is he playing Kelly is well deep enough into his tenure to have his guy at QB, I understand he lost golson and that was unfortunate but here comes my point. Can someone tell me outside of T.J Jones, can anyone on this team run a route besides a wide reciver go..DD is a very nice possesion receiver imop... Having said that I think Kelly is fully aware of this and pinned the season on the fact he was not his type of recruit, I'm not saying he didn't try to win... But if there is one thing I seem to see BK's ego as " if it was my guy it would be different" Look I understand this will ruffle some feathers, and would love this community's thoughts/ debates on this topic Tommy isn't great right now I understand that, but the fact we clown on is unjust... This kid could have transferred didn't, never said a word about taking a back seat to golson.. Guys I'm sorry for the rant but tommy deserves better, he stayed the course, I havent slammed Tommy. He is a ND guy forever. a hardworker. he isnt a quitter. too many people show too little respect for these kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdougal93 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 According to the espn ticker, tommy rees's QB rating was 10.3. I think gary Godsey and Pat Dillingham had better ratings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy 1,734 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 According to the espn ticker, tommy rees's QB rating was 10.3. I think gary Godsey and Pat Dillingham had better ratings Yeah, i saw that too! If that doesn't tell you how bad he is, then i don't know what will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da coach 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Still think the play calling and game plan was the reason this game was lost... Ou ran a 3 man front for much of the game and nd did not run between the tackles. It drives me nuts (yarr) to see a 260 pound defensive end allowed to play laterally against our 310 pound offensive tackles instead of running right at them...then using play action and boot legs off those sets...heck even a sprint draw should be successful in getting our backs into space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zemaniak 105 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Navy 2010 Champs sports 2011 Pittsburgh, Bama 2012 Every mobile QB since and in between 2013: significant drop in performance, mistakes we were seeing in 2010, ie missed tackles, no awareness from CBs (look for the damn ball!) , LBs ( recognize the damn slant/ player in motion), DL ( wtf is wrong with Tuitt, ishaq, shembo...yes, i considervthem linemen) So: is Diaco getting these boys ready? How come other programs reload and we tumble back to mediocrity? Offense....**** don't get me started.... From the empty sets on 3rd and short to the complete lack of screens to counter blitzes, our inability in the red zone, our O line's weak push on running plays and Rees ....ah, Rees.... Writes cheques his arm can't cash, prefers to throw it away then take te easy 3-5 yards on run, what's not to like? Well, how about complete lack of development by our QB expert (BK)? I don't see development anywhere...TE, WR, OL, RB, and definitely not QB So....wth are our coaches doing? Going to charity golf tournaments ? Seeing this season develop, i AM starting to believe ND is a springboard for bigger things for BK and his staff How's it feel, karma biting ya in the ***? Sux that we are stuck in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Part Deaux 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Rees is a big problem and needs addressing immediately, but it is not our only issue. Offensively we have no identity. Cannot run 4-5 RBs out there and expect much. Somebody deserves a chance. Our DBs & LBs can't play with intensity because they are out of position much of the time. Nix looks nothing like last year without Teo out there in the middle. We need help and Kelly needs to make changes. This is a 5 loss team without changes and a 4 loss team with the changes. Man how the mighty have fallen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketsan 881 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Still think the play calling and game plan was the reason this game was lost... Ou ran a 3 man front for much of the game and nd did not run between the tackles. It drives me nuts (yarr) to see a 260 pound defensive end allowed to play laterally against our 310 pound offensive tackles instead of running right at them...then using play action and boot legs off those sets...heck even a sprint draw should be successful in getting our backs into space. Why does this continue to happen??? Your view of the game was spot on, just breezed through a replay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaIrishFanChuck 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Rees is a big problem and needs addressing immediately, but it is not our only issue... This^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corysold 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I don't know, being at the game, I saw 35 points available at least from the plays called, execution got 21 of those. Is that bad play calling? Maybe in the sense you are running plays your players can't perform, but missing wide open WR isn't bad play calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergy79 0 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ...Guys they don't run routes, and Kelly knows this,.... Then what are the wide receiver coaches doing during spring and fall camps and during the week at practice? Is it just me or do our routes seem to take forever to materialize? Why Hercules isnt used more for pop passes and why slants or quick crossing routes to the receivers arent calledmore often is beyond me!!!! This is on the coaches and their preparation/playcalling. It's obvious to everybody that watches any of our games that Tommy in NOT going to beat anybody by throwing those sideline passes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishPolock 0 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ...Guys they don't run routes, and Kelly knows this,.... Then what are the wide receiver coaches doing during spring and fall camps and during the week at practice? Is it just me or do our routes seem to take forever to materialize? Why Hercules isnt used more for pop passes and why slants or quick crossing routes to the receivers arent calledmore often is beyond me!!!! This is on the coaches and their preparation/playcalling. It's obvious to everybody that watches any of our games that Tommy in NOT going to beat anybody by throwing those sideline passes! All of the slants or in routes I have seen with Tommy throwing that I have seen have resulted in the ball being behind the WR. Look, I respect Tommy for trying hard and sticking with it here... but simple fact is he was supposed to be a 3rd string QB this season... and for good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDUB 0 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I can hardly watch now when the defense takes the field this year. It reminds me of the Weis era where you are holding your breathe every play hoping that someone isn't completely out of position, or going to whiff in the open field on a tackle. And the pass rush/blitz scheme? Oof. I still can't get over that play in the second quarter when OU was pinned back at their own 10. Bennett Jackson shows corner blitz way too early (Bell wasn't even using a hard count), OU recognizes and adjusts their pass protection, Jackson still comes on a blitz after 8 guys on the OU line have pointed him out and gets stonewalled, and Bell gets a 10 yard completion Jackson's man who is wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishPolock 0 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I can hardly watch now when the defense takes the field this year. It reminds me of the Weis era where you are holding your breathe every play hoping that someone isn't completely out of position, or going to whiff in the open field on a tackle. And the pass rush/blitz scheme? Oof. I still can't get over that play in the second quarter when OU was pinned back at their own 10. Bennett Jackson shows corner blitz way too early (Bell wasn't even using a hard count), OU recognizes and adjusts their pass protection, Jackson still comes on a blitz after 8 guys on the OU line have pointed him out and gets stonewalled, and Bell gets a 10 yard completion Jackson's man who is wide open. Yep... I was sitting there thinking "ok now you blew your blitz, go back into coverage" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey 6 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I thought 14 for 34 was the worst performance I've ever seen from an Irish QB. Then I was proven wrong. 9 for 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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