Hurry Up Offense

[ChampionshipDefense]

I was just thinking to myself, if I was a coach, what would I do to simplify the game for my QB, and eliminate the ability of a defensive coordinator to try and confuse me with multiple looks?

 

How do you let the air out of the crowd?

 

How do you let your Big Offensive line wear down an opponent early in a game?

 

You run the hurry up.

 

Last year, when we played Michigan we had a very slow tempo, and rightfully slow. We played to let our defense win the game. This year, however, I expect us to go full throttle and faster than we have ever before. This is mainly because I think clearly we are deeper than they are, as well as, I think we can simplify the complexities of Michigan's defenses by not allowing them to set up and change their defenses much.

 

I could be totally wrong, but with Rees at the helm, I think this is a real possibility..What does everyone else think?

[nd1989]

I was just thinking to myself, if I was a coach, what would I do to simplify the game for my QB, and eliminate the ability of a defensive coordinator to try and confuse me with multiple looks?

 

How do you let the air out of the crowd?

 

How do you let your Big Offensive line wear down an opponent early in a game?

 

You run the hurry up.

 

Last year, when we played Michigan we had a very slow tempo, and rightfully slow. We played to let our defense win the game. This year, however, I expect us to go full throttle and faster than we have ever before. This is mainly because I think clearly we are deeper than they are, as well as, I think we can simplify the complexities of Michigan's defenses by not allowing them to set up and change their defenses much.

 

I could be totally wrong, but with Rees at the helm, I think this is a real possibility..What does everyone else think?

 

Great post, and yes. We will go no huddle and hurry up. We will try to wear out mi up front. It's one of our secret weapons for tomorrow....

[ChampionshipDefense]

Great post, and yes. We will go no huddle and hurry up. We will try to wear out mi up front. It's one of our secret weapons for tomorrow....

 

I don't think we are going to go Oregon style fast, but faster than we ever have before. I think this is going to be a huge factor in the game.

[JTennant]

I was just thinking to myself, if I was a coach, what would I do to simplify the game for my QB, and eliminate the ability of a defensive coordinator to try and confuse me with multiple looks?

 

How do you let the air out of the crowd?

 

How do you let your Big Offensive line wear down an opponent early in a game?

 

You run the hurry up.

 

Last year, when we played Michigan we had a very slow tempo, and rightfully slow. We played to let our defense win the game. This year, however, I expect us to go full throttle and faster than we have ever before. This is mainly because I think clearly we are deeper than they are, as well as, I think we can simplify the complexities of Michigan's defenses by not allowing them to set up and change their defenses much.

 

I could be totally wrong, but with Rees at the helm, I think this is a real possibility..What does everyone else think?

 

Most true up-tempo teams don't have "big" offensive lineman compared to teams who like to manhandle the trenches.

 

They typically recruit OL who fit the mold of a 280-290 pound vs a 310-330 range of traditional offenses.

 

I don't think one system is better than any other system.

 

It is the ability of the coach to implement the system and allows their players to flourish and make plays.

 

Stanford handled Oregon's up tempo pretty well last year. I think the only philosophical issue for coaches is the same one that has been in place for years, since in invention of the forward pass.... If you can't stop the run, you're going to be in for a long day. If you can't run the ball, you're going to be in for a long day.

[VCDomer]

Most true up-tempo teams don't have "big" offensive lineman compared to teams who like to manhandle the trenches.

 

They typically recruit OL who fit the mold of a 280-290 pound vs a 310-330 range of traditional offenses.

 

I don't think one system is better than any other system.

 

It is the ability of the coach to implement the system and allows their players to flourish and make plays.

 

Stanford handled Oregon's up tempo pretty well last year. I think the only philosophical issue for coaches is the same one that has been in place for years, since in invention of the forward pass.... If you can't stop the run, you're going to be in for a long day. If you can't run the ball, you're going to be in for a long day.

 

I think the key to the type of offense you recruit for, implement, and are successful at is based upon the teams you play and what style they play. Notre Dame is unique in this way. We play a variety of offensive schemes and that is only going to increase with our new ACC schedule.

 

 

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[ChampionshipDefense]

Most true up-tempo teams don't have "big" offensive lineman compared to teams who like to manhandle the trenches.

 

They typically recruit OL who fit the mold of a 280-290 pound vs a 310-330 range of traditional offenses.

 

I don't think one system is better than any other system.

 

It is the ability of the coach to implement the system and allows their players to flourish and make plays.

 

Stanford handled Oregon's up tempo pretty well last year. I think the only philosophical issue for coaches is the same one that has been in place for years, since in invention of the forward pass.... If you can't stop the run, you're going to be in for a long day. If you can't run the ball, you're going to be in for a long day.

 

I think the biggest key in my mind isn't necessarily whether they can handle the pace, but making the defense more vanilla for our offensive line.

 

Its very hard to have complex defense when you have to line up and play right away. You also can't switch in and out of defenses with this.

 

This plays into Notre Dame's hands in my opinion.

[KamaraPolice]

I hope we go quick. It seems like when I hear 'fastest practice since I've been here' by Kelly, he's referencing the speed they're playing at and not how fast they got through stretching and water breaks.

 

One of the limitations of Golson was we couldn't go tempo. And am I mistaken or did we once go tempo with the use of the Oregon picture cards on the sideline? Remember that? Or am I imagining things.

[Jommybone]

Interesting points here. You know, a Peyton Manning style no huddle isn't really a hurry up at all. It just maximizes the pre snap time at the line of scrimmage so the QB can take his time reading the D, adjust the play, and prevent defensive substitutions. Maybe what we see tomorrow is more hurry up to the line but less hurry up to snap the ball.

[Parseghians theorem]

probably a liitle of both. i feel like Kelly still wants to keep philosophy of not putting defense in bad positions with offensive mistakes. big reason for play calling last year.

but BK is right on the money when he says team has to turn yards into points. doesnt he have a formula that every 75-100 yards should be 7 points or something like that ?

[CTHindman]

Interesting points here. You know, a Peyton Manning style no huddle isn't really a hurry up at all. It just maximizes the pre snap time at the line of scrimmage so the QB can take his time reading the D, adjust the play, and prevent defensive substitutions. Maybe what we see tomorrow is more hurry up to the line but less hurry up to snap the ball.

 

Watching Thursday night's game made me think this, too. Tommy has always been hailed for his ability to read defenses. Why not keep the defensive personnel from subbing and give him more time to read the defense. I hope he can have a game like Peyton did Thursday.

[ObieKnobbe]

Watching Thursday night's game made me think this, too. Tommy has always been hailed for his ability to read defenses. Why not keep the defensive personnel from subbing and give him more time to read the defense. I hope he can have a game like Peyton did Thursday.

 

I am a Chiefs fan who played Peyton Manning in Fantasy FB yesterday. It was a bad day... all hope was erased of us having a chance to beat the Broncos and he put up 60 points on me. Back to the subject, I think we will see a steady mix... I can't see us going completely away from an offensive scheme that got us to be 12-0 last year.

[IrishGuy]

I hate to burst bubbles......but there are a few issues here that I think people are forgetting / overlooking.

 

Since BK has come to ND, he has thrown out most of the offense we saw at Cincinnati. I have yet to see the up tempo offense for large chunks of the game. I have to believe that this is because BK wants to keep his D from playing all those extra minutes.

 

There has also been several comments (made by Kelly) that the QB dictates the speed of the game, and that Tommy is just not made to be an up tempo QB. With Tommy, the key to winning is letting Tommy get into a position where he can get the team into the right play not getting them to snap the ball every 12 seconds.

[corysold]

I hate to burst bubbles......but there are a few issues here that I think people are forgetting / overlooking.

 

Since BK has come to ND, he has thrown out most of the offense we saw at Cincinnati. I have yet to see the up tempo offense for large chunks of the game. I have to believe that this is because BK wants to keep his D from playing all those extra minutes.

 

There has also been several comments (made by Kelly) that the QB dictates the speed of the game, and that Tommy is just not made to be an up tempo QB. With Tommy, the key to winning is letting Tommy get into a position where he can get the team into the right play not getting them to snap the ball every 12 seconds.

ChampionshipD is t saying they have to snap the ball every 12 seconds. Instead, ND should give he impression they might snap the ball in 12 seconds, not that they have to.

 

That is what Peyton and Denver do so well. They are at the line seconds after the previous play and they can run a play if they choose to very quickly, so the defense can't sub, but the offenses by just slow down at that point, read the D and run a play with 5 seconds on the play clock.

 

So it isn't a hurry up to run a lot of plays, it's a hurry up to limit the plays and packages a defense can run. Even if you aren't playing fast, if you are li Ing up fast with the threat of playing fast, that still dictates what a defense can do scheme and personnel wise.

[jbrown_9999]

Interesting points here. You know, a Peyton Manning style no huddle isn't really a hurry up at all. It just maximizes the pre snap time at the line of scrimmage so the QB can take his time reading the D, adjust the play, and prevent defensive substitutions. Maybe what we see tomorrow is more hurry up to the line but less hurry up to snap the ball.

 

It helps when you have a Manning who is able to call his plays. Not sure if Rees is at the same point.

[nd1989]

It helps when you have a Manning who is able to call his plays. Not sure if Rees is at the same point.

 

Rees will call plays at the line tonight. Not to Payton level, but will call plays.

[corysold]

Rees will call plays at the line tonight. Not to Payton level, but will call plays.

 

And Peyton doesn't call all of his own plays all the time either. He does have a direct connection to the OC via his helmet.

[jbrown_9999]

And Peyton doesn't call all of his own plays all the time either. He does have a direct connection to the OC via his helmet.

 

I know that with the Colts, Manning would get five plays sent in (three runs/two passes typically) and get to decide which was best. Not sure if the helmet radio could be used in hurry up mode or not.