ndomer4 532 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 The middle linebackers and safeties looked real bad today. Were both poor in pass coverage and looked a step slow. Carlo and Fox are too slow to keep up with the better teams with speed... period. We could tell we'll have some growing pains with Grace but his physical skills are far superior too the other two. Shumate looked awful as well, and Farley did nothing too spectacular at all. We heard Redfield has a ways to go but the sooner he comes along and plays the better. Looks like our replacements for Teo and Motta are huge downgrades at the moment but it's the first game so time will tell. Not sure what you guys think but these groups were the biggest disappointment today IMO. I watched three of Central Michigans drives today and Michigans defense looked much faster than ours, the flew to the ball. If the defense continues to play like today this team is looking at 4 or 5 losses. The d-line wasn't good but I'll give them a pass, and props to the corners I don't think they threw to Russell's side once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1989 216 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I didn't think Safeties were bad, other than one play on shumate. but LBs have no awareness of the middle on a pass play. Manti always covered the middle well and we are missing that right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionshipDefense 0 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I think they got sucked into the Play Action too much because they were having quite a few guys in their face. Our Dline played very poorly early, without any discipline. If the Dline plays better I think it will be much easier for the LB's to be affective in pass coverage, because they can see whats coming easier. I do think Grace should start over Carlo. Grace is faster, better in space, just less experienced. Fox also needs to stop trying to superman over defenders. He's gonna really get hurt, and we cant afford anyone in the middle to get hurt. Maybe Councel can try the Will? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey 6 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 BK said in the post game while the mlb's looked shaky in the first half... The defense was willingly conceding all that dink and dunk crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zemaniak 105 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Tuitt gotta still be hurt. He was a non factor today Kona is still Kona Day? Didn't see much, dissapointed there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiirish 62 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 clearly missing MOTTA and most of all MANTI--defense will come around though--- aloha's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1989 216 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 clearly missing MOTTA and most of all MANTI--defense will come around though--- aloha's ILBs need to improve in passing, but Shumate isn't a safety yet. Stick with Collinsworth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REMND 0 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Despite that, they held Temple to about a 50% completion percentage. 225 yards on 43 attempts. No play got behind them. Pass rush seemed anemic. We may have a ways to go but that is a nice outcome to start from. My World wind tour of the boards suggests Grace did show much more athleticism than the other two. I have a feeling he will be more visible as time goes on. He just needs real game experience to increase his growth curve I am hoping. Colinsworth I am confident will get better. I may be a Polly about this. Maybe in regards to Grace as well. Expecting intuition improvement sounds pretty reasonable though considering how long the staff has worked with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympiaIrishFan 0 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Maybe we took these guys today a little for granted (easy win). We won the game most importantly. We held them to 6 points. But, we looked really, really slow IMO. I am very concerned to be honest. I am also even more concerned with the pass rush against a bad team. They stoned us over and over. Granted they were trying to throw it as fast as they can all game. But, we didn't have good pass rush at all. Got the win, but if we think we can play this way against good offenses---we will get scored on a lot. We can get better though. I think as the season goes along Tuitt will get back to his old speed. But, we got the win---and we all love the Irish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domer Dude 0 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Don't get too critical. First game and a lot substitutions. Subs break up the continuity. We're good but need to dial it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REMND 0 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Maybe we took these guys today a little for granted (easy win). We won the game most importantly. We held them to 6 points. But, we looked really, really slow IMO. I am very concerned to be honest. I am also even more concerned with the pass rush against a bad team. They stoned us over and over. Granted they were trying to throw it as fast as they can all game. But, we didn't have good pass rush at all. Got the win, but if we think we can play this way against good offenses---we will get scored on a lot. We can get better though. I think as the season goes along Tuitt will get back to his old speed. But, we got the win---and we all love the Irish! Dink and dunk is designed I believe to negate a pass rush. Good game plan. 225 yards passing on 43 attempts with 6 points to show for it. Maybe a good game plan by us as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympiaIrishFan 0 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Just watched the game again, I agree on some of the dink and dunk. But, I counted 7 plays in the first half (with 4 more ify) that wasn't dink and dunk and we got stoned. Still worried. Day/Tuitt/Shembo/ishaq need to do better. Tried to bull rush a lot without much luck. I know it is 1st game and I maybe too critical. But, bad pass rush really. Just look at 8:33 and 8:25 to go in the 2nd quarter and Reilly had a ton of time to throw. That is just two plays against a weak offensive line and we got zero pass rush. Too critical maybe, but watching the game a second time I am now even more concerned with the lack of pass rush. The positive thing is that at least we wont over pursue/rush the QB against good running QB's so we can be more at home when they run. We did hold them to 6 points, that is still impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympiaIrishFan 0 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I think where we are going to get better is Jaylon getting more time, and he is going to create havoc if they let him rush the QB. I see Diaco is doing a little more safety blitzing than he did this early last year. Saw 2 maybe three in the first half. Nice, changing the look. Like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndomer4 532 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 I think they got sucked into the Play Action too much because they were having quite a few guys in their face. Our Dline played very poorly early, without any discipline. If the Dline plays better I think it will be much easier for the LB's to be affective in pass coverage, because they can see whats coming easier. I do think Grace should start over Carlo. Grace is faster, better in space, just less experienced. Fox also needs to stop trying to superman over defenders. He's gonna really get hurt, and we cant afford anyone in the middle to get hurt. Maybe Councel can try the Will? I've actually been thinking Councel to the inside would be a good idea. With Jaylon holding down the dog I don't see why he doesn't get a shot. Him and Grace would be two tall guys on the inside with speed, huge stepup from Carlo and Fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donovan 0 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 After watching this game a few things come to mind....one...i dont believe we knew what to expect from them.....believe were strictly run oriented last year....two short yardage pass coverage has always been our achilles heel.....luckily not many our opponents thrive off it sans oklahoma and stanford....lastly bout time we had this kind of opener...errors will be corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golson5 221 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Our ILBs are SLOW. Grace should start over Carlo. Our DL did nothing which was shocking and scary It looks like we are going to waste Jaylon by playing him the same way they played Spond. Its hard to wreak havoc playing that position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2lakes 4 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Reesus Crist, you guys are spoiled and demanding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1989 216 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 It looks like we are going to waste Jaylon by playing him the same way they played Spond. Its hard to wreak havoc playing that position Meh. Jalon is a FR and played in his first game. We'll see. i think you'll see someone doing more than containing the edge.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamirish4732 0 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I seem to remember everyone being terrified cuz Russell got burned deep twice against navy and by year's end everyone was singing his praises. Imma give them a pass and hold out judgment until after Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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