Franco Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Honestly, I've only seen the highlight clips from the Alabama game, but is he really deserving of all the press and the hype? I've been seeing a ton of press on him throughout the summer (and most recently about him skipping out on the Manning camp) I really think the hype started with the Alabama game, and I felt that he just caught Bama flat-footed after an emotionally draining game against LSU the week before. Can any of our analysts comment on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfschellcrna Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 good college athlete......makes plays with his athletecism......would get destroyed at the next level...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishItalian15 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 You asked two different questions in your post so I will answer them both separately. First question: "Is Johnny Football really THAT Good?" Answer: Yes he is really THAT good. 3706 passing yards with a 68% completion percentage and 26 TD's vs 9 Int's are really good stats for any collegiate passer over 13 games. Then add in the 1410 yards rushing (7 yard average) with another 21 TD's and it amounts to 5116 total yards and 47 TD's. Did I mention that he did this while playing in the SEC? (rhetorical). Second question: "Is he deserving of all of the press and they hype?" Answer: IMO, he must be deserving of the press and the hype as he earned it with his play last year. If he had not played well, there would be no press or hype. He is a dynamic player who won an unprecedented Heisman Trophy as a RS Freshman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Honestly, I've only seen the highlight clips from the Alabama game, but is he really deserving of all the press and the hype? I've been seeing a ton of press on him throughout the summer (and most recently about him skipping out on the Manning camp) I really think the hype started with the Alabama game, and I felt that he just caught Bama flat-footed after an emotionally draining game against LSU the week before. Can any of our analysts comment on this? He's good but I definitely don't think he warrented the honor of being the first ever Frosh to win a Heisman... I think he was the product of three things: 1. It was a weak year for skill position players at the traditional powers. 2. He had a good first half against Alabama, as his team held on to beat them in a classic trap-game post LSU hangover. 3. ESPN, and really, the media in general, has been trying very hard to prematurely push young players in order to be the first to get on the next big thing. I really think it started with Lebron James, when they crowned him before he proved anything... I personally think Johnny Football is going to be a train-wreck this season. Other than the first half of the Alabama game and the Oklahoma game, Johnny wasn't that good against GOOD teams. His performances against Florida and LSU are less than forgettable. You'll see him put up some big numbers this year against more chump teams thoug: Rice, Sam Houston State, SMU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, UTEP, Mizzou Other than LSU and Alabama, TAMU's schedule is a joke... Edited July 15, 2013 by piratey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 You asked two different questions in your post so I will answer them both separately. First question: "Is Johnny Football really THAT Good?" Answer: Yes he is really THAT good. 3706 passing yards with a 68% completion percentage and 26 TD's vs 9 Int's are really good stats for any collegiate passer over 13 games. Then add in the 1410 yards rushing (7 yard average) with another 21 TD's and it amounts to 5116 total yards and 47 TD's. Did I mention that he did this while playing in the SEC? (rhetorical). Second question: "Is he deserving of all of the press and they hype?" Answer: IMO, he must be deserving of the press and the hype as he earned it with his play last year. If he had not played well, there would be no press or hype. He is a dynamic player who won an unprecedented Heisman Trophy as a RS Freshman. Pssssshhhhh.... http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-12/big-12/2012-texas-am-aggies-football-schedule.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roarcity269 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I thought he was a lot of hype until I watched him dismantle Oklahoma in the Cotton Bowl. I kept watching and thinking... this kid is doing everything that Golson should be able to do, but has a confidence that is unmatched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9479578/johnny-manziel-texas-aggies-pleads-guilty-single-charge <script src="http://player.espn.com/player.js?playerBrandingId=4ef8000cbaf34c1687a7d9a26fe0e89e&adSetCode=91cDU6NuXTGKz3OdjOxFdAgJVtQcKJnI&pcode=1kNG061cgaoolOncv54OAO1ceO-I&width=576&height=324&externalId=espn:9479009&thruParam_espn-ui[autoPlay]=false&thruParam_espn-ui[playRelatedExternally]=true"></script> Do I think is physical gifts are that good.. yes Do I know if he can handle the spotlight.. No, even a more emphatic heck no Feels like a Michael Vick to me, extremely talented but likely to implode on himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyisNasty Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 NFL teams are going to be worried about his commitment to football. Mallett got buried in the draft for far less radical behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roarcity269 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Michael Vick is a physical freak.... Johnny doesn't have 1/2 the talent of Vick. Hey may be smarter. Vick had a 20 out of 50 on the wonderlic. Vick: 73 inches tall, 4.33 40yd dash at nfl combine, 38' vertical, throws a football equivalent to 98mphs with a baseball Johnny isn't sniffing any of those physical stats, except maybe height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDIrishFan Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Pssssshhhhh.... http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-12/big-12/2012-texas-am-aggies-football-schedule.php Ha, four good teams and the rest horrible last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Ha, four good teams and the rest horrible last year. Sam Houston State Bearkats... ....with a 'K'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 You asked two different questions in your post so I will answer them both separately. First question: "Is Johnny Football really THAT Good?" Answer: Yes he is really THAT good. 3706 passing yards with a 68% completion percentage and 26 TD's vs 9 Int's are really good stats for any collegiate passer over 13 games. Then add in the 1410 yards rushing (7 yard average) with another 21 TD's and it amounts to 5116 total yards and 47 TD's. Did I mention that he did this while playing in the SEC? (rhetorical). Second question: "Is he deserving of all of the press and they hype?" Answer: IMO, he must be deserving of the press and the hype as he earned it with his play last year. If he had not played well, there would be no press or hype. He is a dynamic player who won an unprecedented Heisman Trophy as a RS Freshman. You pointed out the fact that he did these against the SEC... first off, the GOOD teams int he SEC, Florida, and LSU, he **** the bed...and caught Alabama on a hangover after the LSU game The other SEC games? Auburn, Arky, and Mizzou are horrible, Miss St. and Ole Miss were just as bad as Mizzou, and he padded those stats with cupcakes like SMU, SC State, LA Tech (while somewhat good, had a horrible defense) and Sam Houston St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirodomer Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 His strength is he can see deep down the field even while scrambling and he is incredibly accurate. He is Golson with Tommy's ability to read defenses and see past the first two progressions. He's also 6'2" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirodomer Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Also, in all fairness his offensive line shoved Bama around like Bama did us in the NCG. His offensive line knocked out 9 defensive starters against Florida last year and Florida still beat them. I think if Florida had played A&M later they would've gotten beaten really bad by A&M. A&M lost a few starters on the o-line so he may be running for his life this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Vick screwed up his life pretty good with dogfighting. This is my point. Some talented guys, Vick, Hernandez, can not handle the fame because it lets them afford to induldge in their bad habits, accuses bad behavior etc. Johnny after winning the Heisman seems to have continued some bad habits, that almost got him suspended at A&M before last season. If this continues whatever is talent level he will destroy himself and become a sideshow freak By the way Manziel is more accurate then Vick will ever be. Edited July 15, 2013 by FaithInIrishForever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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