SpeedsterX Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 For some of you (aloha) who think 2013 will be a crap season because our young QB won't be here this season, hear this, Everett Golson was NOT the reason ND went undefeated in the regular season. Let me repeat that, Everett Golson was NOT the reason ND went to the National Championship game last year! The reason has more to do with Coach Brian Kelly, his coaching staff and the upgrade in recruiting in all areas these last three years (also a little luck). Brian Kelly has done nothing but win anyplace he went. He knows how to coach, he knows how to develop and he knows who to play and when. Last year he took us to an undefeated regular season while pushing and pulling a redshirt freshman QB during games and using an immobile weak armed QB in relief. I like what how Matt Hayes put it, "Before Notre Dame’s 2013 season is ruined three months before it begins, let’s make one thing perfectly clear: the Irish didn’t win last year because of Everett Golson. You better believe they won’t suddenly lose without him. So while the nature of the slow offseason demands it and knee-jerk emotion feeds it, there are two critical reasons to avoid the doom and gloom narrative for the blue and gold. Tommy Rees and Brian Kelly. It was Rees who led the Irish to a game-winning field goal against Purdue. It was Rees who won the Michigan game. It was Rees who threw the critical touchdown pass in overtime to beat Stanford. NEWS: Everett Golson out because of academics, plans to return to Irish And it’s Kelly, the man who has turned around the fortunes at Notre Dame in three seasons, who knows a little something about the quarterback position. The man who, at every coaching stop, has a history of winning with multiple players at the position; with playing the hot hand and never once thinking about someone’s ego or another guy’s feelings or how it will look to high school recruits." http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2013-05-26/everett-golson-not-enrolled-notre-dame-tommy-rees-brian-kelly-fighting-irish Read the article. Brian Kelly knows how to win! We may not go undefeated this year but we are NOT going to regress in play. Trust the head coach! He's a natural born winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessemoore97 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Speedy I just don't know. I understand that Golson is gone this year, and he definitely was not solely the reason we went 12-0 last year. My concern that I've been expressing is that we lost a lot of talent in the skill positions on offense: Theo, Cierre, Eifert, and now Golson. Eifert has been HUGE for us and if he didn't come back last season it would've effected us drastically. Theo and Cierre were both good backs with a bunch of game experience under their belts who helped carry the load on a pretty mediocre offense in terms of passing attack. Additionally we have to replace two veteran OL one of which was a multi year starter at Center. Say what you will about Golic's pass blocking but he was good for a pulling guard and run blocking IMO last season. They too will be missed. The guys stepping in maybe highly recruited prospects, but so far they haven't shown it on the field when it counts. Niklas is not as good a receiver or blocker as Eifert. GAIII is not an every down back, Amir is injury prone, Cam isn't going to get many touches, Folston and Bryant are freshmen who could run the ball maybe but they have to learn to pass protect among other things. Jones and Daniels are both good WR's, but beyond them is a bunch of question marks. Our OL recruiting is going to pay dividends in the coming years, but again these guys and the others will take time to develop. Golson and his intangibles were one thing that was returning that people could look to and think improvement was going to occur and at least one skill position group on offense was going to be a strength. Then we lost Golson and Kiel transferred. We went from a asset to a liability in a short amount of time with QB inexperience and doubt about ability. I don't think anyone is saying we are suddenly going to start losing and getting our butts kicked every game, the defense will have a big say in that matter. But we eeked out many games last year and had some bounces go our way. Defense wins games but the offense still has to put on more points than the other guy. We have opponents who are breaking in new QB's this year, but in sense we are too for the 4th year in a row and are handicapped by our numbers and quality currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIrish42 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Look, LOTS of things went our way last year. We were the ONLy team in the BCS who was NOT ranked in the top 25 in passing efficiency. So, anyone think we will be in the Top 25 in PE this year? No. In fact, Tommy's PE went DOWN last season. So for all the talk of clutch he was more inconsistent than the year before or the year before that, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Look, LOTS of things went our way last year. We were the ONLy team in the BCS who was NOT ranked in the top 25 in passing efficiency. So, anyone think we will be in the Top 25 in PE this year? No. In fact, Tommy's PE went DOWN last season. So for all the talk of clutch he was more inconsistent than the year before or the year before that, actually. Madness. We were the best team in the country before the best team in the country beat the **** out of us on national television. No doubt the rest of the top 5 wouldve done the same. Simply the best example of how being undefeated doesnt translate into deserving a shot at the title.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Madness. We were the best team in the country before the best team in the country beat the **** out of us on national television. No doubt the rest of the top 5 wouldve done the same. Simply the best example of how being undefeated doesnt translate into deserving a shot at the title.... Ah...no. I don't think Florida or Kansas State would have beaten us. Florida had a more inept passing offense than us...they threw for under 2000yds...Kansas State was full of a bunch of retred JuCo kids that whooped up on a down Big12 and got PANTS by a very mediocre Baylor team. As for Oregon? I think it would have been a closer game than you think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIrish42 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Ah...no. I don't think Florida or Kansas State would have beaten us. Florida had a more inept passing offense than us...they threw for under 2000yds...Kansas State was full of a bunch of retred JuCo kids that whooped up on a down Big12 and got PANTS by a very mediocre Baylor team. As for Oregon? I think it would have been a closer game than you think... You say that UF had a more inept passing game yet the numbers I posted say you are incorrect. We were 74th in passing efficiency last year. Despite what some may think, I credit BK and his coaching staff along with Teo for last year's run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Ah...no. I don't think Florida or Kansas State would have beaten us. Florida had a more inept passing offense than us...they threw for under 2000yds...Kansas State was full of a bunch of retred JuCo kids that whooped up on a down Big12 and got PANTS by a very mediocre Baylor team. As for Oregon? I think it would have been a closer game than you think... Oregon wouldve throttled us worse than Bama did....guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 Madness. We were the best team in the country before the best team in the country beat the **** out of us on national television. No doubt the rest of the top 5 wouldve done the same. Simply the best example of how being undefeated doesnt translate into deserving a shot at the title.... "No doubt the rest of the top 5.." Ok, whatev as my daughter would say. Like I said in another thread, some of the stuff posted on this site is insane. Do some of you people even watch the games? :blah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 "No doubt the rest of the top 5.." Ok, whatev as my daughter would say. Like I said in another thread, some of the stuff posted on this site is insane. Do some of you people even watch the games? :blah: Stay tuned. Plenty of time for this to be proven.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 Oregon wouldve throttled us worse than Bama did....guaranteed. Please prove that. What do you have to prove that? C'mon! You stated this as fact. Prove it! Gimme something! Everyone thought Oklahoma would kill us as well. Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 Stay tuned. Plenty of time for this to be proven.... You're just not happy because of my wager. I need to look at that for your response,,, be right back, (btw, you look great in lipstick! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Please prove that. What do you have to prove that? C'mon! You stated this as fact. Prove it! Gimme something! Everyone thought Oklahoma would kill us as well. Please I dont need to prove it. It will be settled when we finally see a high tempo offense like that in a bowl game.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 You're just not happy because of my wager. I need to look at that for your response,,, be right back, (btw, you look great in lipstick! ) He ain't playin, son......your department is gonna love your lashes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) I dont need to prove it. It will be settled when we finally see a high tempo offense like that in a bowl game.... Well, if high tempo offense wins Championships what the hell happened? I mean, Saban isn't known for his "high tempo" anything. It's defense and an Offense that can score more than the opponent. Strong lines and great runners gave Saban 3 out of 4 NC's. Just sayin' Edited June 7, 2013 by SpeedsterX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 For some of you (aloha) who think 2013 will be a crap season because our young QB won't be here this season, hear this, Everett Golson was NOT the reason ND went undefeated in the regular season. Let me repeat that, Everett Golson was NOT the reason ND went to the National Championship game last year! The reason has more to do with Coach Brian Kelly, his coaching staff and the upgrade in recruiting in all areas these last three years (also a little luck). Brian Kelly has done nothing but win anyplace he went. He knows how to coach, he knows how to develop and he knows who to play and when. Last year he took us to an undefeated regular season while pushing and pulling a redshirt freshman QB during games and using an immobile weak armed QB in relief. I like what how Matt Hayes put it, "Before Notre Dame’s 2013 season is ruined three months before it begins, let’s make one thing perfectly clear: the Irish didn’t win last year because of Everett Golson. You better believe they won’t suddenly lose without him. So while the nature of the slow offseason demands it and knee-jerk emotion feeds it, there are two critical reasons to avoid the doom and gloom narrative for the blue and gold. Tommy Rees and Brian Kelly. It was Rees who led the Irish to a game-winning field goal against Purdue. It was Rees who won the Michigan game. It was Rees who threw the critical touchdown pass in overtime to beat Stanford. NEWS: Everett Golson out because of academics, plans to return to Irish And it’s Kelly, the man who has turned around the fortunes at Notre Dame in three seasons, who knows a little something about the quarterback position. The man who, at every coaching stop, has a history of winning with multiple players at the position; with playing the hot hand and never once thinking about someone’s ego or another guy’s feelings or how it will look to high school recruits." http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2013-05-26/everett-golson-not-enrolled-notre-dame-tommy-rees-brian-kelly-fighting-irish Read the article. Brian Kelly knows how to win! We may not go undefeated this year but we are NOT going to regress in play. Trust the head coach! He's a natural born winner. Love this post! Notre Dame won those 12 games not just Golson. Don't count these guys out without a fight. Their coach is a Boston Irishman who HATES to lose. My stake is still on Kelly's Fightin' Irish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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