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hawaiiirish National Champion

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Comparing tommy rees to AJ Mccarron is simply well you fill in the adjective--;)

 

Why in the world to so many of you think we can win games with a running attack--its somewhat nonsensical and personally i know all you guys well enough to scratch my head at that reasoning---its not just you parseghian--it seems to be the new chant--run the ball---I CHALK IT ALL UP TO SHOCK at what has transpired.

 

Alabama runs the ball not simply becasue there OLINE & BACKS were awesome but becasue AJ will KILL YOU short or deep if you move the safeties up--

 

Rees will NOT kill anyone---GA3 & CAM will be running against defenses that will stack the LOS just like they did against tommy in 2011---it was UBER_EFFECTIVE and left us with little or no offense and Tommy still had Floyd & Eifert to pass to---

 

We likely would not have had as strong a running game in 2013 then we did in 2012 simply becasue of the loss of THEO & CIERRE to graduation---but with the REMOVAL OF THE read option --the REMOVAL of the escaping QB--the REMOVAL of the deep ball or even QUASI deep ball--- i mean come on we have to be realistic---The offense needed golson to thrive--a game here or there--a series here or there--maybe we can get by---but an entire season of facing gameplans against tommy and OUCH!

 

Looks to be ugly from my perspective and its a shame given the defense we will field--8-4 looks to be fair IMO

 

aloha's

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JTennant Heisman Winner

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Manziel beat Bama, basically by himself

 

Just sayin...

 

Vince Young single handily dethroned the almighty Trojans when "pro style" offense was the offense to run.

 

Without a mobile QB. Mack Brown's Longhorns suck balls.

 

Auburn won a national title on the heels of Cam Newton (very mobile/athletic qb)

 

UF's title run was played on a scheme designed around a mobile QB with a very basic passing attack.

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BlackIrish42 Draft Eligible

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Name one NC QB that didn't have the arm strength to get a pass out in the flat or that couldn't throw to their left. That is what we have with Tommy and it has been shown time and time again.

 

THIS ^^^^

 

Look, I see people cracking on Hendrix but there is a far greater chance for him to improve than there is for Tommy to be able to make throws. Plus, without Floyd or Eifert to literally throw it up to? Tommy is gonna complete about 58% of his passes then, if he's lucky...

 

We better hope to hell that Hendrix has his Kevin McDougal pants ready...

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hawaiiirish National Champion

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Hendrix is being overlooked and Tommy is being given way more confidence then his play justifies IMO.

 

Blackirish and I don't agree that often -- sometimes we reflect different ends of the spectrum--but i think the fact we BOTH see this so clearly that REES is not a great answer here--that should in itself give pause to the REES will rise to the occassion thinking.

 

Hendrix--BIG ARM & POWER RUNNING

REES--EXPERIENCE & can read defenses well enough to move the chains with a QUICK RELEASE & DECENT LEADERSHIP--

Zaire SPEED to the edge and the ability to extend plays and add the option game---

 

REES ALONE IS JUST NOT A WINNING PLAN---its a plan--but a poor one---

 

MULTIPLE QBs could give us something to offer opposing defenses thats not UBER_PREDICTABLE and just hoping the defense holds everyone to 10 points again--( a poor mans bet IMO)

 

Sometimes you have to be creative---

 

aloha's

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corysold National Champion

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It's shocking to me that people still think Rees can play QB. Is it possible that ND could win 10 games this year on defense and a solid running game, sure.

 

But if anyone thinks Tommy is going to win a game by himself this year, well, I guess you havent been watching the last three seasons.

 

I was saying when Tommy was winning games that he wasn't good enough to be AA top tier BCS QB and nothing he has done has changed that.

 

If Tommy is the starter, ND will be winning games despite him, not because of him.

 

I'd like to think Hendrix can be the answer, but he needs to show a ton more consistency in his game.

 

I fear we are in for a fourth straight year of mediocre QB play at best.

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Hendrix has more potential than Rees for this year.

They will both compete this fall and Hendrix will come out on top. He's more physical, has a stronger arm and is more mobile. Does Rees have any of those qualities??? "NO!" The only thing Rees has is better knowledge of the play book....MAYBE!..Hendrix is a Sr. too and he has been studying the same playbook and I'm pretty sure Hendrix is a smart guy, hence the degree he is going for.

 

Hendrix has my vote for 2013! Id rather go down with him than Rees.

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Can Hendrix throw a ball higher than 7 feet off the ground and slower than 45 mph? I know he has a strong arm. What I have not seen from him is touch. Seems like everything he throws is on a rope. The trouble is that those ropes too often have led to the wrong jerseys. He's a smart, talented guy with a strong arm. I would like to see him consistently have the judgement and ability to make different kinds of throws when needed. That's what's been holding him back. Guess we'll know in August.

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I'm thinking if Hendrix can put it all together he should be able to beat out Rees. Having a running threat at qb is so important, I think Hendrix will give us that added dimension. I don't think he played in 2010 so I believe he has a 5th year option.

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Go ahead you guys. Just write off Malik Zaire. This is Kevin McDougal all over again, only this time we don't waste 3 years of eligibility.

 

Okie, did you watch the spring game? ND's spring game? If you did, I don't know how you can maintain such a glowing attitude of where MZ is *right now.* He has a lot of upside but um, he's not even close to ready for prime time.

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Go ahead you guys. Just write off Malik Zaire. This is Kevin McDougal all over again, only this time we don't waste 3 years of eligibility.

 

I am writing off Malik Zaire for 2013 season, he isnt ready and we dont need to burn a redshirt. Rees as a senior will be better than Zaire as a true freshman. Zaire will only play if there is an injury at the QB position.

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I'm thinking if Hendrix can put it all together he should be able to beat out Rees. Having a running threat at qb is so important, I think Hendrix will give us that added dimension. I don't think he played in 2010 so I believe he has a 5th year option.

 

huh? he hasn't beat out rees yet? what makes u think it'll happen now? He does have some mobility but he panics which renders it mostly useless.

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huh? he hasn't beat out rees yet? what makes u think it'll happen now? He does have some mobility but he panics which renders it mostly useless.

 

This is what I'm thinking. It's his 4th year in the program for Christ's sake. If he were going be a decent QB for us he would have been ahead of Tommy Rees a year ago.

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... who was ultra mobile and won a national title for Bama.

lineup, run the FB, play D and run the hell out the other team.

it is the way to win right now.

 

You're forgetting the part about bama having an endless stable of first round running backs

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You're forgetting the part about bama having an endless stable of first round running backs

 

Jones, Fluker, Warmack, Kuandijo.. lol Anyone could run behind those guys..

 

Plus alabama has a stifling D that could bail out the most inept offenses.

 

This thread is ridiculous...

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Hendrix--BIG ARM & POWER RUNNING

REES--EXPERIENCE & can read defenses well enough to move the chains with a QUICK RELEASE & DECENT LEADERSHIP--

Zaire SPEED to the edge and the ability to extend plays and add the option game---

 

REES ALONE IS JUST NOT A WINNING PLAN---its a plan--but a poor one---

 

aloha's

 

Here is my crazy idea. We should put TR in as a fullback or blocker with MZ at the QB spot. Then TR can read the defense, relay the audible play to MZ, MZ changes the play and then has the skills to make the play or run with it if the play breaks down. Win/Win!

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... who was ultra mobile and won a national title for Bama.

lineup, run the FB, play D and run the hell out the other team.

it is the way to win right now.

 

You're forgetting the part about bama having an endless stable of first round running backs

 

You're forgetting to read a post. That's exactly what he pointed to.

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