Moving on... QB Options w/o Golson

[MyFightingIrish]

Ok, so now that one player couldn't handle his obligations as a student athlete and is no longer part of one of the premiere programs in the country, lets discuss the QB depth.

 

Here's my pecking order with Golson and Kiel out of the picture:

 

#1 Tommy Rees. Gotta go with our seasoned senior. He will win us the most games. We know what we have in Rees and he can do a good enough job to win 8-9 games with the 2013 schedule.

 

#2 Malik Zaire. He's nowhere near ready to start out the gate considering we have the experienced TR ahead of him, but the talent may be there to warrant the backup role. Hell, if Tommy goes down, BK has nothing to lose... so throw him in the fire.

 

#3 Andrew Hendrix. His a jitterbug with a rocket for an arm, the problem is he only has 1 pitch (the 101 mph fastball) and it hits the strikezone 50% of the time. On the good side, he is a duel threat and he knows the playbook.

 

Well, that's all I got...

 

 

ND just went from a potential BCS team to a crapshoot. Effin A.

[BlackIrish42]

Ok, so now that one player couldn't handle his obligations as a student athlete and is no longer part of one of the premiere programs in the country, lets discuss the QB depth.

 

Here's my pecking order with Golson and Kiel out of the picture:

 

#1 Tommy Rees. Gotta go with our seasoned senior. He will win us the most games. We know what we have in Rees and he can do a good enough job to win 8-9 games with the 2013 schedule.

 

#2 Malik Zaire. He's nowhere near ready to start out the gate considering we have the experienced TR ahead of him, but the talent may be there to warrant the backup role. Hell, if Tommy goes down, BK has nothing to lose... so throw him in the fire.

 

#3 Andrew Hendrix. His a jitterbug with a rocket for an arm, the problem is he only has 1 pitch (the 101 mph fastball) and it hits the strikezone 50% of the time. On the good side, he is a duel threat and he knows the playbook.

 

Well, that's all I got...

 

 

ND just went from a potential BCS team to a crapshoot. Effin A.

 

Hendrix is second. Get real.

[SpeedsterX]

I am now with Okie on this issue. Start Malik with Tommy's tutelage and get him going as soon as possible! Get him experience NOW!

[MyFightingIrish]

I am now with Okie on this issue. Start Malik with Tommy's tutelage and get him going as soon as possible! Get him experience NOW!

 

Sorry, but what about Malik says "starter" to you? Here's my pros and cons list for starting malik:

 

Pros:

Dual threat

Athletic

 

Cons:

WEAK arm

He's a freshman that inherently barely knows the playbook.

 

 

Tommy Rees is easily a better option to start. Maybe slip Malik in a series or 2 per game to get his feet wet and see what happens. I would not even consider starting MZ game 1.

[hawaiiirish]

Rees will start ABSOLUTELY---anyone thinking different is whistling in the wind i'm afraid---

 

Rees will start and it will be a HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE__

 

We will lose alot of games and after EVERY LOSS we will relive the what if Golson was playing----just an awful feeling and it hasn't even begun yet--

 

Other QBs will play---Zaire likely will no longer redshirt in a desperate attempt to give us a dual threat---but its going to be a MESSY MESSY SITUATION AT QB from now on---

 

Kiel turned out to have pulled one BONEHEAD MOVE by giving up so quickly---

 

it is what it is---going to be a VERY LONG and likely a very painful season of what might have been.

 

 

aloha's

[FaithInIrish Forever]

Tommy is most likely. Malik is Most popular. I'm Gonna go with the forgotten man

 

Andrew Hendrix

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5W77hz3YFIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5W77hz3YFI

 

Don't like his motion but he has the arm and the legs, so hes my pick to be different

[NDhoosier]

It will be Rees, I doubt Zaire even sees the field this year.

[SpecialFNK]

ND next season with Rees (or anyone else on roster) could be a good team next year. they could win enough games to go to a non BCS bowl game. but a national championship game again, forget about it.

another season like 2011 is more likely.

[Gatsby]

This is a movie we all have seen before. We know Tommy will start and be Tommy. Hendrix will replace him and not do much better whole Tommy gets the job back. Zaire does not play as we still win enough to go to a lesser bowl game and Kelly exchanges shirt term, hollow wins for prepping Zaire. I am so disappointed in Golson, did NOT see this coming.

[moostache]

Two things came to mind right now:

 

1) Notre Dame has NO OPTIONS for a bowl game outside of the BCS this year....so there will be no bowl game.

 

2) Rees will start and Hendrix will be the starter after Rees gets hurt in the third game of the year and in the words of Dick Vermeil following Trent Green's knee injury that opened the door for Kurt Warner to ever be heard of..."We will rally around Andrew and we will play good football."...

[JTennant]

Ok, so now that one player couldn't handle his obligations as a student athlete and is no longer part of one of the premiere programs in the country, lets discuss the QB depth.

 

Here's my pecking order with Golson and Kiel out of the picture:

 

#1 Tommy Rees. Gotta go with our seasoned senior. He will win us the most games. We know what we have in Rees and he can do a good enough job to win 8-9 games with the 2013 schedule.

 

#2 Malik Zaire. He's nowhere near ready to start out the gate considering we have the experienced TR ahead of him, but the talent may be there to warrant the backup role. Hell, if Tommy goes down, BK has nothing to lose... so throw him in the fire.

 

#3 Andrew Hendrix. His a jitterbug with a rocket for an arm, the problem is he only has 1 pitch (the 101 mph fastball) and it hits the strikezone 50% of the time. On the good side, he is a duel threat and he knows the playbook.

 

Well, that's all I got...

 

 

ND just went from a potential BCS team to a crapshoot. Effin A.

 

Did you watch the spring game? Coach commented on his(Zaire's) inability to read defenses.. No way is this kid ready now. We'd be throwing him to the wolves. College defenses are way more complex than anything he's seen at any level of high school ball.

[Irish_Convert]

If it turns out that Golson can come back at some point, then we shouldn't burn a year of Zaire's eligibility so my vote goes to a Rees/Hendrix tandem. While I believe it's obvious that either of them lessen our chances of last year's level of success, you have to play the hand your dealt.

 

I know there are people that are pessimistic about our chances with TR/AH and deservedly so based on past results but there is also the chance that the light comes on for one or both of them. I'm not the optimistic, every thing will work out type by any means but this is just one of those situations where we're just going to have to wait and hope for the best.

[corysold]

If it turns out that Golson can come back at some point, then we shouldn't burn a year of Zaire's eligibility so my vote goes to a Rees/Hendrix tandem. While I believe it's obvious that either of them lessen our chances of last year's level of success, you have to play the hand your dealt.

 

I know there are people that are pessimistic about our chances with TR/AH and deservedly so based on past results but there is also the chance that the light comes on for one or both of them. I'm not the optimistic, every thing will work out type by any means but this is just one of those situations where we're just going to have to wait and hope for the best.

 

Tommy's light is on, it is just a 15 watt bulb when you need at least a 60.

[irishrb]

This is a movie we all have seen before. We know Tommy will start and be Tommy. Hendrix will replace him and not do much better whole Tommy gets the job back. Zaire does not play as we still win enough to go to a lesser bowl game and Kelly exchanges shirt term, hollow wins for prepping Zaire. I am so disappointed in Golson, did NOT see this coming.

 

UNLESS Golson somehow is able to come back....This is how I feel.. and it really is BS on Golson!

[irishfan82]

Well this certainly stinks for sure but we all need to get behind ND and support them through this. I think it would be a bit foolish to think anyone except Tommy will start and he is very serviceable with a good defense and a good offensive line and finally experience at receiver. In my opinion Tommy leads us to 9-10 wins BECAUSE he is a senior and has the experience as well as a defense he never had when he was a freshmen and sophomore starter. If there was ever a time for a superstar quarterback coming out of high school to take a shot at a top level spot this is the time for them to come to ND. Some here will think I am nuts for saying it but I think with the schedule we have and the talent in place we should see nine wins this year which I know isn't the BCS hopes we had but still a great year for what this team will be facing.

 

Edit to add: I also have to put this out there for everyone on full melt down. Our offense really was not that impressive last year in any way and the best three players on that offense are gone now. So, we were all excited about the upside of Golson but to be completely honest none of us really know if he was all that great and how he would be without Eifert, Wood, and Theo doing their jobs. There were several occasions Rees had to bail him out last year and Eifert really will make any quarterback better so we may not be missing that much with the defense being great again and a even better running back core if they meet their expectations. Go Irish!

Edited May 26, 2013 by irishfan82

[UncleJoe]

Edit to add: I also have to put this out there for everyone on full melt down. Our offense really was not that impressive last year in any way and the best three players on that offense are gone now. So, we were all excited about the upside of Golson but to be completely honest none of us really know if he was all that great and how he would be without Eifert, Wood, and Theo doing their jobs. There were several occasions Rees had to bail him out last year and Eifert really will make any quarterback better so we may not be missing that much with the defense being great again and a even better running back core if they meet their expectations. Go Irish!

 

I agree with all of this. Golden is still a work in progress. Rees may surprise a lot of you, but not me. We saw him rise to the occasion too many times last year. Hes got brass ones. 9-3 or 10-2 WITH Rees, you heard it here first.

[corysold]

I agree with all of this. Golden is still a work in progress. Rees may surprise a lot of you, but not me. We saw him rise to the occasion too many times last year. Hes got brass ones. 9-3 or 10-2 WITH Rees, you heard it here first.

 

Which times were those?

 

Let's not forget, Rees was basically 1 for 3 in playing well with extended playing time last year.

 

Michigan was a cluster.

 

BYU was an offensive debacle.

 

Stanford was pretty good, though that was barely a full quarter.

 

He looked terrible vs. Miami. Looked pretty shaky vs. Pitt. Did "OK" vs. Purdue, though nothing spectacular.

 

We can talk about his "brass ones" all we want, he isn't a physically gifted enough QB to build a team around.

 

Now, if ND can suddenly turn into Alabama and run the ball at will and allow Tommy to throw on play action a few times a game, ND can still be ok. However, if ND needs to rely on Tommy to win them games, chalk me up for 7 of them.