He's like the story that wont die.

 

Stories about his twitter following habits, his gift to Megan Fox, the possibility of him winning 3 Heisman's

 

And that's just today, on one site.

He is this seasons Denard Robinson for sure

Happy to say that I honestly haven't heard anything about him since the award show until I read this post.

The media needs their mancrushes. It was the same with Tebow. Teenage Justin Beiber fans were looking at sportswriters and saying, "Guys, settle down. You're out of control. He's just a guy".

totally sick of it as well...:flock:

He's like the story that wont die.

 

Stories about his twitter following habits, his gift to Megan Fox, the possibility of him winning 3 Heisman's

 

And that's just today, on one site.

 

I am not surprised just as I will not be when he tanks next year and gets thrashed in the Cotton Bowl. Next mancrush?

Give the kid a break, he's only got three years left in his football career...unless he learns to punt.

Give the kid a break, he's only got three years left in his football career...unless he learns to punt.

 

^^^^Tongue in cheek but completely true.

I am a bit sick of it as well but I respectfully ask since Manziel was up against T'eo and that T'eo didn't win, is this influencing your perspective a bit?

 

I ask because I haven't noticed any more/less Heisman live for JF than for anyone else who has won the award in recent time...

Feel a little pot...kettle coming seeing as college football was tidal waved with Te'o Te'o Te'o for months...

Feel a little pot...kettle coming seeing as college football was tidal waved with Te'o Te'o Te'o for months...

 

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I am a bit sick of it as well but I respectfully ask since Manziel was up against T'eo and that T'eo didn't win, is this influencing your perspective a bit?

 

I ask because I haven't noticed any more/less Heisman live for JF than for anyone else who has won the award in recent time...

 

Not really. I just don't think he deserved the award. His only real accomplishment was having a good game against Bama. Had Klein won it, not only would I not have a problem with it, but the media would have not ran with it since Klein isn't in the SEC!SEC!SEC!

 

Cam, Tebow, JF(even Ingram to a certain extent, even though his Heisman was more fraudulent then JF) Yes they all got the same hype, but its because of the sports media's relationship with the SEC.

Give the kid a break, he's only got three years left in his football career...unless he learns to punt.

 

Come on Johnny Saturday can learn to carry a clip board for sure...

Not really. I just don't think he deserved the award. His only real accomplishment was having a good game against Bama. Had Klein won it, not only would I not have a problem with it, but the media would have not ran with it since Klein isn't in the SEC!SEC!SEC!

 

Cam, Tebow, JF(even Ingram to a certain extent, even though his Heisman was more fraudulent then JF) Yes they all got the same hype, but its because of the sports media's relationship with the SEC.

 

I think most objective people would agree that JF did earn the Heisman. His stats are unprecedented in college football. Certainly T'eo is a great player and deserving. Klein blew it in the big game, which is where JF had his best game.

 

To say Cam, Tebow and Ingram didn't deserve it is hogwash... Why do you think Ingram's was "fraudulent"?

 

Me thinks your hate for the SEC is influencing your judgement.

I think most objective people would agree that JF did earn the Heisman. His stats are unprecedented in college football. Certainly T'eo is a great player and deserving. Klein blew it in the big game, which is where JF had his best game.

 

To say Cam, Tebow and Ingram didn't deserve it is hogwash... Why do you think Ingram's was "fraudulent"?

 

Me thinks your hate for the SEC is influencing your judgement.

 

Why cant you just leave us myopic ND fans alone and stop being an SEC apologist? :kev:

I think most objective people would agree that JF did earn the Heisman. His stats are unprecedented in college football. Certainly T'eo is a great player and deserving. Klein blew it in the big game, which is where JF had his best game.

 

To say Cam, Tebow and Ingram didn't deserve it is hogwash... Why do you think Ingram's was "fraudulent"?

 

Me thinks your hate for the SEC is influencing your judgement.

 

Klein blew one game and JF blew two. He played 4 FBS teams with winning records, and lost two with 5 TDs and 5 INTs. He compiled half his stats against 4 non-FBS or sunbelt teams. What exactly did he earn besides riding the SEC coat-tails. Hell, Sumlins other QB, Case Keenum had a similar season and had very little press, because a similar season and same result didn't occur in the secsecsec!

 

Ingram's Heisman was fraudulent because he wasn't even the best back on your team, had the best line in the country, and Suh should have won if the award wasn't actually the best offensive player in the SEC or USC.

 

BTW, I never said Tebow or Cam shouldn't have won it. I just said they had similar media hype.

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I think most objective people would agree that JF did earn the Heisman. His stats are unprecedented in college football. Certainly T'eo is a great player and deserving. Klein blew it in the big game, which is where JF had his best game.

 

To say Cam, Tebow and Ingram didn't deserve it is hogwash... Why do you think Ingram's was "fraudulent"?

 

Me thinks your hate for the SEC is influencing your judgement.

 

Because Ingram's stats weren't very good. Here are the stats of the top rushers from 2008-2012

 

2012

1 Ka'Deem Carey Arizona 303 1929yd 6.37 23TD

2 Stefphon Jefferson Nevada 375 1883yd 5.02 24TD

3 Le'Veon Bell Mich St 350 1648yd 4.71 11TD

4 Jordan Lynch N Illinois 271 1771yd 6.54 19TD

5 Kenjon Barner Oregon 248 1624yd 6.55 21TD

 

2011

1 LaMichael James Oregon 247 1805yd 7.31 18TD

2 Bobby Rainey Western Ky 369 1695yd 4.59 13TD

3 Montee Ball Wisconsin 307 1923yd 6.26 33TD

4 Ronnie Hillman SDSU 311 1711yd 5.5 19TD

5 Trent Richardson Alabama 283yd 1679 5.93 21TD

 

2010

1 LaMichael James Oregon 294 1731yd 5.89 21TD

2 Jordan Todman U Conn 334 1695yd 5.07 14TD

3 Bobby Rainey Western Ky 340 1649yd 4.85 15TD

4 Mikel Leshoure Illinois 282 1706yd 6.05 17TD

5 Denard Robinson Michigan 256 1702yd 6.65 14TD

6 Lance Dunbar N Texas 274 1553yd 5.67 13TD

 

2009

1 Ryan Mathews Fresno St 276 1808yd 6.55 19TD

2 Toby Gerhart Stanford 343 1871yd 5.45 28TD

3 Dion Lewis Pittsburgh 325 1799yd 5.54 17TD

4 Donald Buckram UTEP 259 1594yd 6.15 18TD

5 Ryan Williams Va Tech 293 1655yd 5.65 21TD

 

2008

1 Donald Brown U Conn 367 2083yd 5.68 18TD

2 Shonn Greene Iowa 307 1850yd 6.03 20TD

3 Jahvid Best California 194 1580yd 8.14 15TD

4 Javon Ringer Mich St 390yd 1637 4.2 22TD

5 MiQuale Lewis Ball State 322 1736yd 5.39 22TD

 

 

Ingram won the Heisman with a statline of:

271rushes 1658yd 6.12 17TD

 

The Heisman belonged to Toby Gerhart, he was the best RB in America. Ndamukong Suh was the best player.

As has been stated...the T'eo coverage has been nauseating for nondomers. I love it, but many don't. I think JM deserved it. His numbers were ridiculous, and the Heisman shouldn't just be about the best player on an undefeated team, so A&M's losses don't bother me. If anything, he showed us how to beat Bama. Golson is from the same mold as JM, a play maker who can create a big play from chaos.

Anything with Johnny Football, I simply turn the channel. I even turned it away from The Tonight Show with Jay Leno when he had johnny on. I dont even want to see the guy speak. He was the least deserving of the 3 players there.

I will watch Johnny Hypeball's bowl game--pulling for the sooners naturally----

 

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I probably got more access to college football than you

 

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Edited December 19, 201211 yr by Rocketsan