The Heisman has been diminished by not choosing Manti Te'o. I believe that with all my heart.

 

I look at it this way: they had an opportunity to enhance the value of the Heisman by choosing someone who was a perfect fit in keeping with the mission statement of the award.

 

The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work.

 

I do not believe this choice takes away from past winners, or even from Manziel, for that matter. But it does take away from what the award could have been moving foreward. It could have been an award that recognized the greatest contributor to a team, the greatest leader, and the greatest student athlete in football. It could have been about recognizing the intangibles that a defensive player brings to the table.

 

A quarterback does touch the ball on every offensive play, but the linebacker takes multiple hits and delivers multiple hits on almost every single play. The defensive player does not rack up stats like a quarterback or running back, but he prevents those stats. How do you measure or weigh the value and performance of an athlete who prevent things from happening by his very presence and disciplined assignment completion?

 

Let's face it: quarterbacks and running backs are vital to winning football games. But defenses win championships; and the captain of the best defense in America on the number one team in America should win it if he is also the signal caller, the heart and soul of that defense, and its backbone. Throw in the fact that he made plays on the biggest stage at the biggest moments: against Oklahoma and Stanford. That guy should win the highest individual award in the land.

 

Are we to believe that no defensive player has deserved it over the last 77 years? It's not that it has become an offensive award. It has always been that.

 

Tonight it had a chance to become more by selecting Manti Te'o. Opportunity passed up. Award diminished.

Edited December 9, 201211 yr by 2lakes

The result just made a joke of the trophy and what it should stand for...

its a popularity contest that ESPN is in charge of now...

The Heisman has been diminished by not choosing Manti Te'o. I believe that with all my heart.

 

I look at it this way: they had an opportunity to enhance the value of the Heisman by choosing someone who was a perfect fit in keeping with the mission statement of the award.

 

 

 

I do not believe this choice takes away from past winners, or even from Manziel, for that matter. But it does take away from what the award could have been moving foreward. It could have been an award that recognized the greatest contributor to a team, the greatest leader, and the greatest student athlete in football. It could have been about recognizing the intangibles that a defensive player brings to the table.

 

A quarterback does touch the ball on every offensive play, but the linebacker takes multiple hits and delivers multiple hits on almost every single play. The defensive player does not rack up stats like a quarterback or running back, but he prevents those stats. How do you measure or weigh the value and performance of an athlete who prevent things from happening by his very presence and disciplined assignment completion?

 

Let's face it: quarterbacks and running backs are vital to winning football games. But defenses win championships; and the captain of the best defense in America on the number one team in America should win it if he is also the signal caller, the heart and soul of that defense, and its backbone. Throw in the fact that he made plays on the biggest stage at the biggest moments: against Oklahoma and Stanford. That guy should win the highest individual award in the land.

 

Are we to believe that no defensive player has deserved it over the last 77 years? It's not that it has become an offensive award. It has always been that.

 

Tonight it had a chance to become more by selecting Manti Te'o. Opportunity passed up. Award diminished.

 

Come on guys. Congratulations to Johnny football for winning the Heisman!

I'm with chiro. Manziel had a pretty solid season.

 

I would've loved to see Manti win it, but Manziel had a FAR better season than Tebow and Newton did the year they won it. He's as deserving as Manti would have been if he had won it.

Come on guys. Congratulations to Johnny football for winning the Heisman!

 

Yes, congratulations to Johnny Manziel. Congratulations to Texas A&M, the SEC, and ESPN.

 

That can be another thread.

 

"The Heisman has been diminished": that is this one.

The result just made a joke of the trophy and what it should stand for...

 

There is a fanbase every year that thinks this.....

The heisman was tainted when Paul Hornung beat Johnny majors and Jim brown; when Ty Detmer beat Rocket Ismail, when Ron Dayne won it over Michael Vick; and when Manti Te'o lost it because the sports media campaigned for Johnny Manziel. Colin Klein had a better season IMO

I'm with chiro. Manziel had a pretty solid season.

 

I would've loved to see Manti win it, but Manziel had a FAR better season than Tebow and Newton did the year they won it. He's as deserving as Manti would have been if he had won it.

 

His season is similar to Case Keenum or Graham Harrell. If TaMU were in the Big12, we wouldn't be talking about him at all. He only played 4 BCS games against teams with over a 500 record....and lost two of them, while throwing 5 picks. He compiled most of his stats playing soupcans like SMU, South Carolina State, and Sam Houston State

 

IMO, hes a product of the hype-machine that is ESPN and the SEC. We are basically asked to congratulate him for beating the mighty Bama.

I think some of the posts on some of these threads are an OVERREACTION---i mean nobody is more in the corner of my home boy manti then me--but really guys--lets not get carried away.

 

Heisman has been an offensive award by both tradition & substance for a long time now---Manti got MORE VOTES then any other defensive player ever.

 

Lets just NOT feel TOO ENTITLED and lets please NOT COMPLAIN about how we was robbed---

 

Manti has got everything he deserved and then some---in addition to freakin every defensive award and sundry best player awards---and hell coach got COY , Diaco got best assistant----and most of all Manti has a chance to play in the big game after an undefeated regular season----NO REASON TO BE GREEDY FELLA'S

 

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ROBBED OF A DAMN THING IMHO___

 

The real cherry on the parfait is not an OFFENSIVE AWARD FOR MANTI----it is the TITLE ON JAN 7TH___i'm sure he is not disappointed--its not in his DNA after all the accolades--

 

As far as the heisman is concerned--its an offensive award and ND will have to wait two years before they give one to MR GOLSON__

 

Don't be too upset over this, its bad karma---TIME TO PUT AWARDS ASIDE AND FOCUS ON THE BIG ENCHILADA!!!

 

aloha's go irish!

Manziel had monster numbers. Congrats to him. Some of you should leave it at that. It makes you look silly.

Come on guys. Congratulations to Johnny football for winning the Heisman!

 

I'm just voicing disagreement with who won based on what this award is supposed to represent. Now it has become a beauty pagaent.

I'm just voicing disagreement with who won based on what this award is supposed to represent. Now it has become a beauty pagaent.

 

it's ALWAYS been that way...

I think some of the posts on some of these threads are an OVERREACTION---i mean nobody is more in the corner of my home boy manti then me--but really guys--lets not get carried away.

 

Heisman has been an offensive award by both tradition & substance for a long time now---Manti got MORE VOTES then any other defensive player ever.

 

Lets just NOT feel TOO ENTITLED and lets please NOT COMPLAIN about how we was robbed---

 

Manti has got everything he deserved and then some---in addition to freakin every defensive award and sundry best player awards---and hell coach got COY , Diaco got best assistant----and most of all Manti has a chance to play in the big game after an undefeated regular season----NO REASON TO BE GREEDY FELLA'S

 

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ROBBED OF A DAMN THING IMHO___

 

The real cherry on the parfait is not an OFFENSIVE AWARD FOR MANTI----it is the TITLE ON JAN 7TH___i'm sure he is not disappointed--its not in his DNA after all the accolades--

 

As far as the heisman is concerned--its an offensive award and ND will have to wait two years before they give one to MR GOLSON__

 

Don't be too upset over this, its bad karma---TIME TO PUT AWARDS ASIDE AND FOCUS ON THE BIG ENCHILADA!!!

 

aloha's go irish!

 

 

Could not have said it any better

its a popularity contest that ESPN is in charge of now...

 

How is ESPN "in charge" of it aside from broadcasting the presentation? The have no more say in the winner than any other network that broadcasts college football:

 

http://www.heisman.com/history/balloting.php

If the Heisman was slightly diminished, it is only because this was a relatively weak year for skill position players in college football. Of course, I am less moved about the result, as I hold no illusion that it is awarded according to the quoted definition.

 

Let's try to live up to the class level which will undoubtedly be displayed by the 21-year old who finished second.

Let's try to live up to the class level which will undoubtedly be displayed by the 21-year old who finished second.

 

^^^^^This x 2...

If the Heisman was slightly diminished, it is only because this was a relatively weak year for skill position players in college football. Of course, I am less moved about the result, as I hold no illusion that it is awarded according to the quoted definition.

 

Let's try to live up to the class level which will undoubtedly be displayed by the 21-year old who finished second.

 

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Edited December 9, 201211 yr by FaithInIrishForever

Let's try to live up to the class level which will undoubtedly be displayed by the 21-year old who finished second.

 

But let's also not confuse disappointment and legitimate critique on a discussion board with class or lack thereof...

How is ESPN "in charge" of it aside from broadcasting the presentation? The have no more say in the winner than any other network that broadcasts college football:

 

http://www.heisman.com/history/balloting.php

 

ESPN churning stories about the "legend of Johnny Football" to brand their billion dollar investment had noting to do with his popularity.

 

It also had the effect of diminishing Bama's loss. Which I'm sure ESPN has no interesting in getting them in the BCS, even though it increases their ad revenue