Add Linda Cohn to the ND enemies list.

[thiazi 0]

Another ESPN stooge. Last night while they were taking advantage of ND's popularity by doing their cheesy "all ND" type show (Irish bumper music, montages, etc), they showed a bar in SB where people were celebrating. After they showed a female ND fan dancing excitedly, Linda Cohn said (in a mocking tone), "Enjoy it now while you can honey," and laughed at the girl.

 

I will savor ND's victory in the title game. That will be the only night I will watch that channel again until the next time ND is playing on it.

[suhoney24 0]

she also just compared nd to twilight the movie and dancing with the stars and there was another one that is not coming to me at the moment...basically saying we are just a fad that people find interesting for a moment but will fad

[thiazi 0]

A 125 year fad. We're actually not dissimilar to some of the characters in Twilight - we've been around for centuries, sucking from time to time but usually kicking ass.

[KellyisNasty 0]

Another ESPN stooge. Last night while they were taking advantage of ND's popularity by doing their cheesy "all ND" type show (Irish bumper music, montages, etc), they showed a bar in SB where people were celebrating. After they showed a female ND fan dancing excitedly, Linda Cohn said (in a mocking tone), "Enjoy it now while you can honey," and laughed at the girl.

 

I will savor ND's victory in the title game. That will be the only night I will watch that channel again until the next time ND is playing on it.

 

Where so some of these people learn journalism? You can joke around on camera, just not at the expense of coloring the story.

[thiazi 0]

I made a Fox News comparison in another thread, and I think that's all you need to say about it. They aren't journalists. They're propagandists. They aren't trying to report news - they're trying to decide news, they're trying to influence.

 

In most sports, that can't do much harm - it can only impact who wins what awards - everything else is decided on the field in playoffs, whose participants are chosen based on records against carefully evened out schedules. But in a sport like college football, where media decide the winners? They can decide everything. And they have this year.

 

The fix was in this year just as it's been in the past several years. It was supposed to be either SEC vs SEC again, or SEC vs Oregon. Kansas State almost screwed it up (although if they'd finished 12-0 I bet a one-loss Bama would magically have passed them in the final BCS standings), then three teams choked (Bama, KSU, Oregon), then the worst happened - ND, who had not been invited or accounted for, won against a schedule everyone had happily assumed would keep them out.

 

Everyone made fun of us preseason for "scheduling ourselves out of" title contention, as opposed to other schools, who "schedule themselves into" title contention. But what ND did was both brave and brilliant. Because if ND had scheduled any worse, they'd have found a way to screw us. What the ND admin realized is that in this toxic media environment, ND can't afford to leave any doubt. If you leave it up to media, they will screw us. We got a nice taste of it the week after Bama lost. "ND is clearly #3." We were an afterthought. Why? Just because that was the official narrative from Pravda-SPN. Really we were #1 in all the computers and had played a better schedule.

[ShamrockShapedTurds 0]

I made a Fox News comparison in another thread, and I think that's all you need to say about it. They aren't journalists. They're propagandists. They aren't trying to report news - they're trying to decide news, they're trying to influence.

 

In most sports, that can't do much harm - it can only impact who wins what awards - everything else is decided on the field in playoffs, whose participants are chosen based on records against carefully evened out schedules. But in a sport like college football, where media decide the winners? They can decide everything. And they have this year.

 

The fix was in this year just as it's been in the past several years. It was supposed to be either SEC vs SEC again, or SEC vs Oregon. Kansas State almost screwed it up (although if they'd finished 12-0 I bet a one-loss Bama would magically have passed them in the final BCS standings), then three teams choked (Bama, KSU, Oregon), then the worst happened - ND, who had not been invited or accounted for, won against a schedule everyone had happily assumed would keep them out.

 

Everyone made fun of us preseason for "scheduling ourselves out of" title contention, as opposed to other schools, who "schedule themselves into" title contention. But what ND did was both brave and brilliant. Because if ND had scheduled any worse, they'd have found a way to screw us. What the ND admin realized is that in this toxic media environment, ND can't afford to leave any doubt. If you leave it up to media, they will screw us. We got a nice taste of it the week after Bama lost. "ND is clearly #3." We were an afterthought. Why? Just because that was the official narrative from Pravda-SPN. Really we were #1 in all the computers and had played a better schedule.

 

Spare us all the liberal Fox News hate-spew and stick to football. You want to talk politics, take it to another board. Thanks.

[thiazi 0]

That's not a political comment. If you think it is, you're probably a Fox News viewer. That last comment is also not a political comment.

 

Fox News is a propaganda network. This is a fact, it is not opinion. If you don't like it, again, you're probably a Fox viewer, and you're certainly their target audience - someone who hates reality and hates facts and likes lies repeated to him and treated as true.

 

So spare me your stupidity and/or dishonesty. Thanks.

[tj4ndirish 0]

Spare us all the liberal Fox News hate-spew and stick to football. You want to talk politics, take it to another board. Thanks.

 

Really? I didn't see anything political in any part of this post. Sounds like we have a friend of Fox sports here.

[ShamrockShapedTurds 0]

My point was and is I come to this message board because the people that post here generally do an outstanding job of keeping all political talk out of it. I should have left the descriptors out of it to make my point, but I was annoyed when I saw what was written, likening what happens on a certain news network to propaganda and comparing it to what ESPN does. If you wanted to make it apolitical you simply had to say "what most television news networks pass off as news is propaganda." But, you didn't. You singled out the conservative news network, which was a political statement within the body of your post. Also, please don't presume to know ANYTHING about my politics. You don't know me or any of my political/moral views and, frankly, I'd like to keep it that way.

 

Now, back to the sports discussion at hand.

[IrishCalves 0]

Guys, NBC is their biggest competition. NBC Sportsnet, Comcast... they're trying to angle in on the market share that ESPN has bogarted for so long. It turns out that Notre Dame is a ratings generating monster that has an exclusive home deal with NBC.

 

Aside from their continued instance than any school above the Mason Dixie line is slow and bad at football, Notre Dame is the media darling that is championing their competition's cause. No WONDER they're tongue and cheek about it. They HAVE to represent such a fervent fanbase and get what they can out of them, but they want us to fail because we've been a huge breadwinner for their competition.

 

Haters gon' hate.

[2lakes 4]

Ahem. Back to sports...

 

Cohn is just the foil for Hannah Storm, ND grad and homer. She's Hannah's female equivalent to Lou Holtz's Mark May. It's all good, I've figured out this whole ESPN schtick. Can't believe I ever let it get to me. Let's see if they throw their hat in the ring when the NBC contract runs out. My guess is "no" only because they won't want to rile up the SEC...

[dangeruss 6]

we'll put her stupid name right under rick reily's.

[Scotty88 0]

Another ESPN stooge. Last night while they were taking advantage of ND's popularity by doing their cheesy "all ND" type show (Irish bumper music, montages, etc), they showed a bar in SB where people were celebrating. After they showed a female ND fan dancing excitedly, Linda Cohn said (in a mocking tone), "Enjoy it now while you can honey," and laughed at the girl.

 

eh, I noticed that too and took it as either stupidity that the girls were dancing on tables or as jealousy that there are women that are pre-menopause

[corysold 0]

The thing is though, ESPN has plenty of pro-ND personalities as well. Lou Holtz, Hannah Storm, Mike Golic, Gene Wojohowski says nice things. They have their own their team page and blog.

 

Do some ESPN types talk down about ND, sure, but plenty talk them up as well. I'd bet if you went to any other fan base and asked them, they'd wonder why ESPN likes ND so much.

[NYNDIRISH723 14]

The thing is though, ESPN has plenty of pro-ND personalities as well. Lou Holtz, Hannah Storm, Mike Golic, Gene Wojohowski says nice things. They have their own their team page and blog.

 

Do some ESPN types talk down about ND, sure, but plenty talk them up as well. I'd bet if you went to any other fan base and asked them, they'd wonder why ESPN likes ND so much.

 

You would be 100% correct. Just for laughs I went over to an Alabama board just to see if anyone was at all concerned about the prospect of playing Notre Dame. Not only were all of them extremely confident that they would kick our ass, 90% of them thought ESPN held a pro-ND bias.

[SanDiegoIrish 0]

The thing is though, ESPN has plenty of pro-ND personalities as well. Lou Holtz, Hannah Storm, Mike Golic, Gene Wojohowski says nice things. They have their own their team page and blog.

 

Do some ESPN types talk down about ND, sure, but plenty talk them up as well. I'd bet if you went to any other fan base and asked them, they'd wonder why ESPN likes ND so much.

 

The smile on Lou's face when May put on the leprechaun jacket was enough to make me forget all the ESPN ND-hate. Sensationalism sells in media. Period. For every Lou Holtz or Mike Golic, they have to have a Mark May or Linda Cohn to fabricate controversy. It's a fact of life. Once they start realizing that ND can generate as much ratings (if not more) than any SEC team, they'll come around.

[StuckInSECLAND 0]

Let's see if they throw their hat in the ring when the NBC contract runs out. My guess is "no" only because they won't want to rile up the SEC...

 

Notre Dame is popular in the South. The South loves football and Notre Dame is a historically important football team. The SEC fans here just view you the same way as they view most teams in the Big 10 and Big 12- only they like Notre Dame.

[nd1baby 0]

Notre Dame is popular in the South. The South loves football and Notre Dame is a historically important football team. The SEC fans here just view you the same way as they view most teams in the Big 10 and Big 12- only they like Notre Dame.

 

Like or respect?

[Double_Domer 0]

Notre Dame is popular in the South. The South loves football and Notre Dame is a historically important football team. The SEC fans here just view you the same way as they view most teams in the Big 10 and Big 12- only they like Notre Dame.

 

During my Domer days, wherever I went in the South it was easy to rile up the fans of the state schools when they saw I wasn't joining in their cheers for their school. I would be accused of going to the big rival school and then threatened, until I mentioned ND. The mood would immediately change and everyone would be like "oh you're cool, let's go kick that guy's ass then."

Can't say I ever had a bad experience due to my attendance at ND no matter where I went.