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And hilarity ensues. I haven't seen a post about it, but Maryland and Rutgers are joining the "Leaders" division of the B1G. Obviously the move is a cash grab, the conference stands to make money hand over fist by adding the NYC, DC and Baltimore media markets to the Big Ten Network.(200million so they say) From a football standpoint? Yuck. Neither team brings anything to the conference from a football standpoint. Maryland adds another top 20-25 ranked Basketball school but...whatever.

 

Why do I say ND forced B1G's hand? Well, for one, we're one "exercise in taking care of business" from going to the National Title game. I've already posted how we have been a ratings bonanza this season and wait till the returns on this USC/ND game come in...we're the only decent 8pm kickoff(in the 7pm slot you have Clemson/South Carolina, which is interesting to no one outside the Pimento state) The whole country is gonna watch to see if we deserve the number 1 ranking. I digress. Anyway, so we have big ratings, so what? Well...now you have Notre Dame back. Not 10-2 with two blowout losses to Michigan and USC back...but honest to god, playing for titles back. We've been a paper tiger these last couple of years, Jack gets invited to the big boys table but he couldn't set the topic. Now? Now you don't get a 16 team super league scenario UNLESS Notre Dame signs on. Not when you have a national title contender that DOMINATES the TV ratings that won't play ball. Any shot the B1G had to force us to join? Gone. The ACC thing was dipping the toe in, it was like we were "seeing other people" but hadn't consummated. Now? Now we are big fish again. We set the terms. B1G has to look elsewhere.

 

So what do they do? They raid the ACC in a money grab and try to shake things up. The timing couldn't be any more obvious. You're telling me this couldn't wait? The announcement comes RIGHT after we rise to number 1 in the BCS? They essentially killed the Big East(finally). Rumor has it Boise, SDSU and BYU are going to the MWC. The ACC will eat UConn and/or Louisville and become a basketball super conference(good for them...)

 

So there you have it. The B1G, in a quest for money, finally gave up on us and settled on two middling programs. Programs that provide nothing but a foot into a larger media market.(that frankly, couldn't care about either program...)

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Came here to talk about this right now, so good timing. I did make a thread about this yesterday but I speculated the game is bigger and that the B1G is trying to destabilize the ACC so it falls apart leaving ND nothing else to do than join the B1G.

 

This also creates an interesting dynamic between the B12 and Pac12. If the PAC is going to expand to keep up, there's only 1 conference that makes sense for them to raid: the Big12.

 

Now if the B12 wants to survive, they need to turn the tables and the only way I can imagine doing that is by adding southern power teams from the ACC like Clemson, GT, FSU and Miami to fend off the raids by the PAC.

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All these reports about the Big 10 taking Rutgers to grab the New York market is bull.

I have lived in Jersey my entire life except for my four years matriculating at ND, and believe me, they are NOT getting the NYC market because no one there cares about Rutgers.

New York is a pro city dominated by 2 football teams, 2 basketball teams, 2 hockey teams, and 2 baseball teams. There is little or no ink given to Rutgers in the paper. Those pro teams get every single back page every day of the week.

No matter who they have played at Giants Stadium, Rutgers has NEVER filled it, The only college team that gets the back page in NYC is ND when they play at Giants Stadium or Yankee Stadium becuase it has the following in NYC and it fills both stadiums on the day tickets go on sale

The Big 10 will be VERY disappointed when the Skunkbears and Bucknuts show up at Giants Stadium and it is half empty.

Rutgers may be 60 milers away from NYC but it might as well be 600 for all the good it brings to the Big 10, This is a big mistake by the Big 10

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Two things for sure -- this was an absolute money-grab by the Big10, and this is the dead-cat-bounce for the Big East.

 

It is easy to see the motivation for the Big10, at least off the field. As stated, pure TV market grab. It's like marrying the ugly daughter from a rich family. On the field? Blech. Compared to the gets of Nebraska and Penn St, this will leave Big10 folks wanting for Mizzou - much less ND. Can't wait for that late-season Rutgers-Indiana matchup.

 

Not sure I am buying the causality between ND's run this season and this move. If ND had any effect, it was the ACC agreement. If anything, the timing is all about TV contract negotiations.

 

Vegas should start a line on who can jump to the ACC faster...UConn or Louisville.

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Totally, totally agree.

 

Did the B1G do any research here? The only college sports that NYC cares for at all is Basketball.

 

NYC cares more for Syracuse, Uconn, and St. Joe's than they do for Rutgers. Its all about ND for football. So when ACC adds UConn tomorrow, the ACC will still be, by far, the more intriguing conference to NYC.

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Having Maryland and Rutgers wasn't going to make any kind of dent on the East Coast for the B1G, and they knew it. Last week, FOX bought a 40% stake in the YES Network, and now they're strong-arming cable providers in the Northeast--if you want YES, you have to take BTN too. Huge cash grab, projected to make each school $50 mil/year by the end of the decade.

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Programs that provide nothing but a foot into a larger media market.(that frankly, couldn't care about either program...)

 

So true- James Franklin, current head coach at Vanderbilt and former recruiting and offensive coordinator at Maryland, would have to plead with high school coaches at clinics in Baltimore to see Maryland as their state university. The cream of the crop from that area almost never chooses to stay in state. Penn State's D-line coach Larry Johnson has been out-recruiting Maryland in the Baltimore-Washington area for years.

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All these reports about the Big 10 taking Rutgers to grab the New York market is bull.

I have lived in Jersey my entire life except for my four years matriculating at ND, and believe me, they are NOT getting the NYC market because no one there cares about Rutgers.

New York is a pro city dominated by 2 football teams, 2 basketball teams, 2 hockey teams, and 2 baseball teams. There is little or no ink given to Rutgers in the paper. Those pro teams get every single back page every day of the week.

No matter who they have played at Giants Stadium, Rutgers has NEVER filled it, The only college team that gets the back page in NYC is ND when they play at Giants Stadium or Yankee Stadium becuase it has the following in NYC and it fills both stadiums on the day tickets go on sale

The Big 10 will be VERY disappointed when the Skunkbears and Bucknuts show up at Giants Stadium and it is half empty.

Rutgers may be 60 milers away from NYC but it might as well be 600 for all the good it brings to the Big 10, This is a big mistake by the Big 10

 

Ah but you're not looking deep enough... What is on the back pages is that FOX owns 51% of the Big Ten Network. FOX-News Corp is looking to buy the YES Network. The YES network will then roll in with the Big Ten Network. They are going to strong arm their way onto the basic cable/satellite in the greater NYC area.

 

The Maryland side of the deal is reported to net the B1G a 100million by getting into Baltimore/DC area. Rutgers is suppose to double that, putting a netgain of 200 million dollars...per year.

 

The Big 10, by making this move, just admitted they don't care about national titles. The entire focus of the conference is to go to a Rose Bowl and earn an additional big money bowl bid.

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B1G's grab for Maryland and Rutgers is about footprint and money. These schools fill out the East coast profile to basically complement PSU, and the schools are also consistent with the conference's character - big state schools.

 

Maryland is more attractive as it is a Basketball school... and B1G has some decent hoops cred with IU, MSU, Michigan and OSU (sometimes).. Penn States pokes into relevancy every now and then.

 

These moves come after NDs declaration for the ACC, and after the BCS playoff format has been announced... so I don't think it is going to trigger a huge super-conference rush. What it might do is slightly alter how much of the pie B1G gets... and definitely makes the Big East (with western teams), irrelevant.

 

So, we now have three Power conferences - SEC, B1G, PAC... and strong conferences - B12 & ACC. As long as these groups horde the majority of the bowl money... then I don't think there will be much more movement.

 

If the rump of the Big East wants to be part of football relevancy / money, they might find the ACC attractive, particularly Lousiville, UConn, Pitt and Syracuse. Those schools fit the profile of the ACC IMO.

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Serious question, does the B1G actually play LaCrosse? That's big for Maryland.

 

ACC will now have ND, Syracuse, Duke, Virginia and UNC in Lax. ACC is now more dominant in basketball and Lax than the SEC is in football. I get that doesn't mean much in the way of $$$ but the league is pretty stacked in most sports other than football.

 

ACC is pretty dominate in Soccer,too, isn't it?

 

Lol, seriously, they have no place being in the B1G besides $$$.

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B1G's grab for Maryland and Rutgers is about footprint and money. These schools fill out the East coast profile to basically complement PSU, and the schools are also consistent with the conference's character - big state schools.

 

Maryland is more attractive as it is a Basketball school... and B1G has some decent hoops cred with IU, MSU, Michigan and OSU (sometimes).. Penn States pokes into relevancy every now and then.

 

These moves come after NDs declaration for the ACC, and after the BCS playoff format has been announced... so I don't think it is going to trigger a huge super-conference rush. What it might do is slightly alter how much of the pie B1G gets... and definitely makes the Big East (with western teams), irrelevant.

 

So, we now have three Power conferences - SEC, B1G, PAC... and strong conferences - B12 & ACC. As long as these groups horde the majority of the bowl money... then I don't think there will be much more movement.

 

If the rump of the Big East wants to be part of football relevancy / money, they might find the ACC attractive, particularly Lousiville, UConn, Pitt and Syracuse. Those schools fit the profile of the ACC IMO.

 

You are looking way too deeply into this. Local cable providers in the DC/NY market will be strong-armed into carrying the BTN. Heck, its already available in the DC area.

 

Its all about money. Big 10 couldnt care less that its product sucks and it's spread out all over the country with terrible teams. It's about forcing as many providers as possible to carry the BTN.

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