There was a faction of Notre Dame fans who had some pretty harsh things to say about how Brian handled that position the last three seasons and were extremely critical of some of the decisions he made this year.

 

On the contrary, the only way to describe how he's handled the QB spot is pure brilliance.

 

The beauty of it all - above and beyond how he and the staff brought Everett along this year - is how we are approaching a time and place where we will be honing younger QB's behind upperclassmen and elevating them to the starting job at the appropriate time.

 

Like every other aspect of Brian's "process" this one is unfolding beautifully.

There was a faction of Notre Dame fans who had some pretty harsh things to say about how Brian handled that position the last three seasons and were extremely critical of some of the decisions he made this year.

 

On the contrary, the only way to describe how he's handled the QB spot is pure brilliance.

 

The beauty of it all - above and beyond how he and the staff brought Everett along this year - is how we are approaching a time and place where we will be honing younger QB's behind upperclassmen and elevating them to the starting job at the appropriate time.

 

Like every other aspect of Brian's "process" this one is unfolding beautifully.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 my friend. I was part of that faction that complained about it. We had every right to complain LAST YEAR. Have I complained this year? I was actually pissed when they booed Tommy in the purdue game.

 

I've also predicted 12-0 this year, see prediction thread.

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with us fans criticizing the coaching staff when there is clearly room for improvement.

 

Just my 2 cents..

I admit I wasn't thrilled when BK brought TR in for the first time. ( I def was not a person booing ) I wasn't sure how it would work with the young qbs psychology. But in the end I knew BK knows these kids extremely well and what makes each one tick.

 

Not to mention, he utilized TR brilliantly-- at times.

 

A close friend of mine who is a diehard Canes fan called me before the Chitown game this year and said what I was thinking best

"Brian Kelly is the truth "

 

We finally have our coach and I think th entire fan base finally knows this. after years of letdowns it is understandable that many fans were apprehensive to crown another ND coach as "the coach"

 

Maybe I'm way off base. What say you? ---has anyone not bought in at this point ? Ndnationers don't count!

Edited November 18, 201212 yr by Island Domer

We had every right to complain LAST YEAR.

 

Every right, true, but that right doesn't make the complaints any less lame.

 

Brian made the best out of crappy situation at QB his first two years with tremendously flawed recruits from the previous regime. We still made back-to-back bowl games, and had it not been for stupid turnovers from those flawed QB's we would have won 10 games last year.

 

It's easy to complain, the hard part is coming up with viable alternative solutions and I never truly saw anything even remotely close to being better then the path he chose.

Every right, true, but that right doesn't make the complaints any less lame.

 

Brian made the best out of crappy situation at QB his first two years with tremendously flawed recruits from the previous regime. We still made back-to-back bowl games, and had it not been for stupid turnovers from those flawed QB's we would have won 10 games last year.

 

It's easy to complain, the hard part is coming up with viable alternative solutions and I never truly saw anything even remotely close to being better then the path he chose.

 

 

HELLO! LOL. He yanked Dayne after 1 mediocre half while throwing Tommy to the wolves. Be objective here and don't let our current success influence your opinion.

 

To your logic, every decision we've made until this point has lead to an 11-0 season. I agree, but looking at last year alone, the QB situation could have been much better.

 

So complaining about a situation which obviously could be improved and help your team win more games is "Lame"? Care to elaborate. You've peaked my curiosity.

HELLO! LOL. He yanked Dayne after 1 mediocre half while throwing Tommy to the wolves. Be objective here and don't let our current success influence your opinion.

 

I was supportive of the decision when it happened.

 

Dayne was not the answer, for whatever reason, and Brian made that determination quickly and decisively and moved on from him - and rightfully so.

 

Tommy wasn't "thrown to the wolves" he was the starter for the better part of the previous year, and was the starter when we beat Miami in the Sun Bowl.

 

You keep saying it could have been handled better, but you never say how.

Apparently you missed the thread where we all said we were wrong.

 

Also, results don't always reflect a correct choice. Yes, he looks brilliant because the team is 12-0.

 

A Tommy Rees pick 6 vs. Purdue, which wasn't exactly far from happening, and this year could have totally fallen apart.

As a fan, we have every right (and part of the fun is) to question, second-guess, or even complain about coaching decisions. Just because we don't agree with the coach's decision, doesn't make us lame or wrong for doing so. We are all passionate and when our team is not doing as well as we would like, there is nothing wrong with questioning the coach, an administrator, or a player on how certain things were handled.

 

There have been a few over the top or personal attacks, but those are generally the exception. I feel like the majority of people on this board, when questioning any ND coach, have been usually respectful.

 

A Tommy Rees pick 6 vs. Purdue, which wasn't exactly far from happening, and this year could have totally fallen apart.

 

And anyone who points that out is a traitor...

And anyone who points that out is a traitor...

 

Not a traitor, just someone who will stoop to bringing up things that didn't happen to support their argument.

the only way to describe how he's handled the QB spot is pure brilliance.

 

The beauty of it all - above and beyond how he and the staff brought Everett along this year - is how we are approaching a time and place where we will be honing younger QB's behind upperclassmen and elevating them to the starting job at the appropriate time.

 

Like every other aspect of Brian's "process" this one is unfolding beautifully.

 

NDBadaBing, I forgot to respond to your main point. I agree with you 100%. Brian Kelly has handled the situation perfectly. He must be an incredibly open communicator with his quarterbacks. There seems to be no surprises on amongst the QBs. Let's also give a lot of credit to Golson and especially Reese for how they have handled themselves.

Not a traitor, just someone who will stoop to bringing up things that didn't happen to support their argument.

 

Look we get it, you know what is best.

 

The kid from Pitt makes a FG and everyone is pissed Golson didn't play the whole second half.

 

Tommy throws a bad pick vs. Michigan that costs the game, something he is fully capable of doing, and everyone is pissed.

 

The fact that ND is 11-0 means that Kelly has been brilliant handling the QB's. But don't act like there weren't very real moments where it all could have blown up in his face.

 

It wasn't exactly brilliant when he tried something similar last year and Tommy went all "Turnover Tommy" on him and the team lost 3 games they shouldn't have.

Edited November 18, 201212 yr by corysold

NDBadaBing, I forgot to respond to your main point. I agree with you 100%. Brian Kelly has handled the situation perfectly. He must be an incredibly open communicator with his quarterbacks. There seems to be no surprises on amongst the QBs. Let's also give a lot of credit to Golson and especially Reese for how they have handled themselves.

 

Totally agree.

 

And I'm not here to say no one should complain, I just thought in this case it was too easy to understand he inherited a terrible situation and he was simply getting the most out of what he had - which was limited.

 

While replacing Dayne with Tommy wasn't the ideal situation, it absolutely beat the alternative.

Totally agree.

 

And I'm not here to say no one should complain, I just thought in this case it was too easy to understand he inherited a terrible situation and he was simply getting the most out of what he had - which was limited.

 

While replacing Dayne with Tommy wasn't the ideal situation, it absolutely beat the alternative.

 

Did he? Because our QB play was egregious last year. I think if he played it more like he did this year, then we probably would have been better off.

 

Do you remember last season at all? Just curious..

 

I'm going to answer your question earlier. My 2 cents would be that he should have played a QB rotation. He showed almost no confidence in Dayne by pulling him and then going to Tommy next week. Go back and watch that game. Dayne had only 1 really bad throw that was intercepted in the end-zone.

 

I'm not second guessing coach to this point, because he is a very good fundamentals and details kinda guy, but a lof of his in game decisions are questionable.

 

This year he says, I don't know why I yanked Everett, I just went with my gut.

 

My feeling is that if you ever sit down with coach over Dunkin Donuts and some coffee, he'll tell you that he probably managed the QBs too tight last year instead of going with his gut.

 

I mean how many TO's can Tommy have before you start to realize that you should probably put Dayne back in. It seemed like to me he tried too hard to have 1 QB last year, where this year he has kinda admitted that maybe he needs to have a 2 QB system to get one of the guys acclimated. M

 

Maybe he feels this way because EG is a 2 yr freshman as opposed to Dayne being a veteran, or is it a change in his philosophy.. I don't really know, but we can tell by looking at the result of last year that the situation could have been handled better.

Look we get it, you know what is best.

 

The kid from Pitt makes a FG and everyone is pissed Golson didn't play the whole second half.

 

Tommy throws a bad pick vs. Michigan that costs the game, something he is fully capable of doing, and everyone is pissed.

 

The fact that ND is 11-0 means that Kelly has been brilliant handling the QB's. But don't act like there weren't very real moments where it all could have blown up in his face.

 

It wasn't exactly brilliant when he tried something similar last year and Tommy went all "Turnover Tommy" on him and the team lost 3 games they shouldn't have.

 

Of course he knows what's best! He started this "I was right" thread to let everyone know how right he was. He was right about Kiffen too, being a great coach and person.

Did he? Because our QB play was egregious last year. I think if he played it more like he did this year, then we probably would have been better off.

 

Do you remember last season at all? Just curious..

 

I'm going to answer your question earlier. My 2 cents would be that he should have played a QB rotation. He showed almost no confidence in Dayne by pulling him and then going to Tommy next week. Go back and watch that game. Dayne had only 1 really bad throw that was intercepted in the end-zone.

 

I'm not second guessing coach to this point, because he is a very good fundamentals and details kinda guy, but a lof of his in game decisions are questionable.

 

This year he says, I don't know why I yanked Everett, I just went with my gut.

 

My feeling is that if you ever sit down with coach over Dunkin Donuts and some coffee, he'll tell you that he probably managed the QBs too tight last year instead of going with his gut.

 

I mean how many TO's can Tommy have before you start to realize that you should probably put Dayne back in. It seemed like to me he tried too hard to have 1 QB last year, where this year he has kinda admitted that maybe he needs to have a 2 QB system to get one of the guys acclimated. M

 

Maybe he feels this way because EG is a 2 yr freshman as opposed to Dayne being a veteran, or is it a change in his philosophy.. I don't really know, but we can tell by looking at the result of last year that the situation could have been handled better.

 

I just think he felt Tommy - even with his flaws - was simply the better option than Dayne last year. And frankly, I agree. There was nothing wishy washy about it, either. He turned the page on Dayne and that was that.

 

I don't think he had any confidence in Dayne to start, relieve or whatever. And again, I agree.

 

This year is completely different.

 

Everett was clearly decided upon as the future of the program, but with the understanding there would be bumps along the way.

 

The good news is, he had someone in Tommy who could provide a temporary safety net in some very specific situations - early in the season, Everett is struggling and we needed a key drive or as an injury related starter - and he called upon Tommy in those very specific situations.

 

To me that is reading the situation correctly and managing your assets properly.

I just think he felt Tommy - even with his flaws - was simply the better option than Dayne last year. And frankly, I agree. There was nothing wishy washy about it, either. He turned the page on Dayne and that was that.

 

I don't think he had any confidence in Dayne to start, relieve or whatever. And again, I agree.

 

This year is completely different.

 

Everett was clearly decided upon as the future of the program, but with the understanding there would be bumps along the way.

 

The good news is, he had someone in Tommy who could provide a temporary safety net in some very specific situations - early in the season, Everett is struggling and we needed a key drive or as an injury related starter - and he called upon Tommy in those very specific situations.

 

To me that is reading the situation correctly and managing your assets properly.

 

Ok, I feel like we're getting closer to being on the same page, but managing assets properly is not naming Dayne the starter and the pulling him after 1 half of football.. for good.

Look we get it, you know what is best.

 

I don't know what's best.

 

Brian Kelly knows what's best and I am giving him credit for that.

I will always believe that something transpired between BK and DC that will never see the light of day.

To coach's defense. He had a 5 star recruit from California with all the measurables and almost none of the intangibles and a

 

"Gamer" who didn't have a whole lot of athletic ability.

I will always believe that something transpired between BK and DC that will never see the light of day.

 

I did as well until this season when Charlie benched him at Kansas.

 

Now I just feel like he doesn't grade out. Charlie knows QB's.