Domers can control the BCS. Here's how!

[chirodomer]

It looks like we are going to get hosed by the writers this season no matter what happens. I'd like to see Notre Dame decide to NOT play in ANY BCS game if we are undefeated and not selected for the title game. We could pick the Champps sports bowl or a really small bowl that would love to have the "REAL" national champ. Let these asshats burn in hell if they think they're going to have our "Title Team" in their Bitch Bowl! Piss on the money! We don't need it.. It's the principle! Let Santa Claus bring in some extra special "bowl gifts" and keep our kids healthy for next season. Losing Notre Dame out of the whole BCS equation would hurt their pockets worse than ours! Better yet, just send the team home with Manti for Christmas and let them enjoy Hawaii! Now THAT would make National News!

Edited November 12, 2012 by chirodomer

[irish21]

Won't happen. It would be too unpopular among the players.

[chirodomer]

Why would it be unpopular? They wouldn't be playing for anything? It would be a hard game to win when no one really wants to be there when they know they deserve a title shot! Ill say it now, if we don't get in the title game then we will lose our bowl game Bc the allure of playing for each other is not as strong as the allure of playing for the title. There has to be a reward somewhere.

[Tenacious_ND]

It looks like we are going to get hosed by the writers this season no matter what happens. I'd like to see Notre Dame decide to NOT play in ANY BCS game if we are undefeated and not selected for the title game. We could pick the Champps sports bowl or a really small bowl that would love to have the "REAL" national champ. Let this asshats burn in hell if they think they're going to have our "Title Team" in their Bitch Bowl! Piss on the money! We don't need it.. It's the principle! Let Santa Claus bring in some extra special "bowl gifts" and keep our kids healthy for next season. Losing Notre Dame out of the whole BCS equation would hurt their pockets worse than ours!

 

hahahaha u think ND would pass on that money. NO! also is the BCS in charge of the new playoff format? if so prolly not a good idea to piss them off ill wait till the irish win out to bitch/whine/kick/cry like a little bitch if they get left out of the title game. Remember when everybody was whining in 06 calling ND the media darlings. hmmm.. it appears that the SEC has taken over that role and its pretty comical.

[corysold]

hahahaha u think ND would pass on that money. NO! also is the BCS in charge of the new playoff format? if so prolly not a good idea to piss them off ill wait till the irish win out to bitch/whine/kick/cry like a little bitch if they get left out of the title game. Remember when everybody was whining in 06 calling ND the media darlings. hmmm.. it appears that the SEC has taken over that role and its pretty comical.

 

It isn't THAT much money. ND gets like 4 million for playing in a BCS game. The payouts for the top tier bowls after that are like 1-2 million. Only a 2-3 million dollar difference. Pocket change for ND.

 

The problem is, all those other good bowls have conference tie-ins and contracts. They can't just decide to take ND without being sued by their conferences.

 

ND would end up in the "Beef O Brady" bowl or something.

[chirodomer]

Could set up a bowl game with best Canadian University and call them "World Champs"!

[Tenacious_ND]

It isn't THAT much money. ND gets like 4 million for playing in a BCS game. The payouts for the top tier bowls after that are like 1-2 million. Only a 2-3 million dollar difference. Pocket change for ND.

 

The problem is, all those other good bowls have conference tie-ins and contracts. They can't just decide to take ND without being sued by their conferences.

 

ND would end up in the "Beef O Brady" bowl or something.

 

yeah because ND isn't greedy.

[GunSlinger]

Lmao, no way does ND reject a BCS bowl.

[ND3]

Am I the only one who doesn't think USC is a gimme? We still have to go to LA to play a team that has beaten us 9 out of 10 times (not to mention a quarterback that is 2-0 against us) before this is even an issue.

[Tenacious_ND]

Am I the only one who doesn't think USC is a gimme? We still have to go to LA to play a team that has beaten us 9 out of 10 times (not to mention a quarterback that is 2-0 against us) before this is even an issue.

 

no you arent the only one.. that will be a very hard game to win. they wont be able to whiff in in the redzone and beat USC.

[Katzenboyer]

Am I the only one who doesn't think USC is a gimme? We still have to go to LA to play a team that has beaten us 9 out of 10 times (not to mention a quarterback that is 2-0 against us) before this is even an issue.

 

I'm with you. Too many people are viewing that as a cakewalk. If ND walks into Los Angeles at 11-0, USC is going to be SKY HIGH for that game.

 

As for the original poster's comment, I don't even need to say that there's no chance in hell of that happening. But if you want to alienate players/recruits/fans/alumni/anyone who supports the program, I couldn't think of a better way to do it.

 

Teams have finished unbeaten and been left out of the national championship game (see Auburn, 2004). Doesn't mean you take your ball and go home, and it's exactly that kind of attitude that makes other team's fans think ND's fanbase is a bunch of whining crybabies.

 

Go to the BCS, stomp whoever we play, and let the chips fall where they may.

[EddieAngel]

Marquise Lee is REALLY really good. He makes Barkley look much better. They can put up points and they will be coming at our secondary all night. They play for their shot at the Pac 12 title this weekend. If they win against UCLA they still have a shot at the BCS, but they will have to beat us, and Oregon.

 

IF they lose it is going to be a disasterous end to a disasterous season. Barkley will have lost more by returning than he gained (By far), Kiffin will be fighting for his job, the players are going to be disgruntled and want nothing more than to spoil our season.

 

USC is no gimme. With that said, I would be happy to see ND win in the Beef O Brady Bowl just as much as I would to see them beat a Big 10 b!tch in the Rose Bowl. However, the BCS is ending after next year anyways so moral victories mean nothing. High profile recruiting game means a heck of a lot more than a moral stand. If the players voted and said they would prefer to lock out the BCS, that would be great because it would show recruits that the players have a say. If ND decided, it would be a different animal.

 

As it is, sorry, status quo ftw.

[notredameroom]

If Notre Dame defeats Florida State last year in the bowl game, they start the season with momentum and start considerably higher in rankings than Kansas State.

 

Preseason polls had ND boxed out from the get-go. It is why I hate preseason polls. Where would teams be ranked if there were no rankings until week 5?

[Franco]

Marquise Lee is REALLY really good. He makes Barkley look much better. They can put up points and they will be coming at our secondary all night. They play for their shot at the Pac 12 title this weekend. If they win against UCLA they still have a shot at the BCS, but they will have to beat us, and Oregon.

 

IF they lose it is going to be a disasterous end to a disasterous season. Barkley will have lost more by returning than he gained (By far), Kiffin will be fighting for his job, the players are going to be disgruntled and want nothing more than to spoil our season.

 

USC is no gimme. With that said, I would be happy to see ND win in the Beef O Brady Bowl just as much as I would to see them beat a Big 10 b!tch in the Rose Bowl. However, the BCS is ending after next year anyways so moral victories mean nothing. High profile recruiting game means a heck of a lot more than a moral stand. If the players voted and said they would prefer to lock out the BCS, that would be great because it would show recruits that the players have a say. If ND decided, it would be a different animal.

 

As it is, sorry, status quo ftw.

 

agreed....but you beat a team like USC the way you beat any team (just more so USC because of their reliance on the big play)

 

You beat them in the trenches and run the ball down their throats, controlling the clock, and keeping their explosive offense off the field.

 

You limit the big play...let them nickle and dime you and tighten up in the endzone...Just like OU. Except USC is worse in that they tend to self-implode if they have to drive the length of the field with more than 5 plays (one of the most penalized teams in the country)

 

I'm definitely worried about USC, but our boys are more than up for the task.

 

Just one thing to note:

 

2011 before the ND/USC game

 

ND Defensive Stats (vs. 2012)

Rushing Defense: 48th (6th)

Pass Efficiency Defense: 51st (10th)

Total Defense: 52nd (8th)

Scoring Defense: 30th (1st)

Turnover Margin: 113th (22nd)

 

USC Offensive Stats (vs. 2012)

Rushing Offense: 77th (64th)

Passing Offense: 21st (17th)

Total Offense: 36th (27th)

Scoring Offense: 54th (26th)

Passing Efficiency: 17th (11th)

 

In case you're wondering, USC is a little worse on defense this year, than last year.

 

Just pointing out that while they did get a bit better offensively YOY, ND's defense is LIGHT-YEARS ahead of where they were last year. Also, they seem to have a focus about them on the road and will not get caught up in the hype like last year....

 

Not saying this guarantees victory, but I feel confident that our boys are more than capable of curb-stomping USC

[notredameroom]

USC is big game against a big team that has the talent to win over ND. It is not a pushover game by any means. But ND is MORE THAN CAPABLE of winning. And if they play their game and play well, they will.

 

Big plays, turnovers, kick returns for TDs and punt returns for TDs are what ND has to avoid against Marquis Lee and Robert Woods. Even that third receiver of theirs had a big day against Oregon.

 

Everyone knows turnovers are the great equalizer. It's why upsets happen.

And everyone points to Manziel for A&M, but it was just as much the Bama 3 turnovers that made those teams even.

Same thing with Pitt and ND. teams aren't even, but you give someone three extra possessions and you get three less. Well, it's a disadvantage for sure.

[EddieAngel]

agreed....but you beat a team like USC the way you beat any team (just more so USC because of their reliance on the big play)

 

You beat them in the trenches and run the ball down their throats, controlling the clock, and keeping their explosive offense off the field.

 

You limit the big play...let them nickle and dime you and tighten up in the endzone...Just like OU. Except USC is worse in that they tend to self-implode if they have to drive the length of the field with more than 5 plays (one of the most penalized teams in the country)

 

I'm definitely worried about USC, but our boys are more than up for the task.

 

Just one thing to note:

 

2011 before the ND/USC game

 

ND Defensive Stats (vs. 2012)

Rushing Defense: 48th (6th)

Pass Efficiency Defense: 51st (10th)

Total Defense: 52nd (8th)

Scoring Defense: 30th (1st)

Turnover Margin: 113th (22nd)

 

USC Offensive Stats (vs. 2012)

Rushing Offense: 77th (64th)

Passing Offense: 21st (17th)

Total Offense: 36th (27th)

Scoring Offense: 54th (26th)

Passing Efficiency: 17th (11th)

 

In case you're wondering, USC is a little worse on defense this year, than last year.

 

Just pointing out that while they did get a bit better offensively YOY, ND's defense is LIGHT-YEARS ahead of where they were last year. Also, they seem to have a focus about them on the road and will not get caught up in the hype like last year....

 

Not saying this guarantees victory, but I feel confident that our boys are more than capable of curb-stomping USC

 

ND has killed teams like this by slowing down the game, you are right on. I think that ND wins this game, I just don't feel like they are BC.

 

I wonder if back to back losses to UCLA and ND would be a coffin nail for the Kiffer.

[ND3]

I know everyone has their own theories on betting lines, but I take them pretty seriously, and for the vast majority of them, they are pretty accurate.

 

Notre Dame is a 3 point underdog vs. USC right now. I know that there is a lot that goes into the dynamics of creating a spread, but those guys know what they are talking about. Those receivers are significantly more talented than any we've seen this year, including OU. That game could very well be on KeiVarae Russell's shoulders. We'll see how well he performs against All-American level talent.

[EddieAngel]

I know everyone has their own theories on betting lines, but I take them pretty seriously, and for the vast majority of them, they are pretty accurate.

 

Notre Dame is a 3 point underdog vs. USC right now. I know that there is a lot that goes into the dynamics of creating a spread, but those guys know what they are talking about. Those receivers are significantly more talented than any we've seen this year, including OU. That game could very well be on KeiVarae Russell's shoulders. We'll see how well he performs against All-American level talent.

 

ND plays prevent defense. They will give Lee and Woods both a lot of depth, they will get chunks of yards and then we will tighten up in the red zone because they don't have a great rushing threat (Yeah, Redd is pretty good). This is going to be a rush heavy ND game to keep SC off the field.

 

Stanford held USC to 14 points. It can be done.

 

Incidentally, SC has not beaten a ranked opponent this season.

[MantyIrish]

I thought of this the other day, Dr. T. Unbeaten against a tougher schedule than KSt. and better wins against common opponenets.

 

Turn a big middle finger at the whole system. It would feel good!

 

ND doesn't care about the BCS money. see clashmoremike's piece on ND and the BCS.

 

F&ck em all!!

 

Play number 14 Nebraska in the Rose Bowl. PUH-LEASE!!??

[smaster]

ND doesn't care about the BCS money.

 

No, money never made a difference to ND...

 

:laugh: