Is It Time for ND Media Relations to Go Into Overdrive?

[WilhelmD 0]

If, as some are suggesting, there is a real possibility of four unbeatens come December and the final polls, then perhaps ND media relations needs to get busy planting seeds that help the Irish. I know, we can make window dressing wins by destroying our next four opponents. But we ALL know that every one of our opponents looks to our game as their bowl game (and that could not be more true than with Wake, BC and, to a lesser extent, Pitt) So we may not pull an Oregon on them. However, I just read SDIrish post about our offense and he noted: "that we've played THREE top 15 and FIVE top 20 defenses to date. Pitt is a top 35 defense. Pitt and Wake, not so much. In comparison, Oregon hasn't played anyone in the top 60 I think."

 

THIS is the type of information that needs to get out there for the human voters. We have the computers and I am not too worried about any incremental increase for KSU or OR based upon the remainder of their schedules. What concerns me is that the human voters need to be POUNDED with FACTS instead of flash, glitz and smoke and mirrors when it comes to OR and KSU. We can blog about it. We can respond to posts on BSPN and elsewhere, but we are 'just homers and fans.' If we can get the media machine to start buying ND as greater than KSU or OR or, for that matter 'Bama (they all SAY they are a JV pro team, but I say ND and 'Bama look eerily similar on BOTH sides of the ball . . .) then we can nudge those human poll votes in our favor.

Just a thought because the last thing this team needs is to have their awesome amount of work be pooh poohed and denigrated by uniformed voters.

[Rocketsan 881]

Time for Brian Hardin to kick it up a notch...

[corysold 0]

That is funny. I was just going to start a thread like this.

 

I'm starting to hear and read chatter that if LSU wins out, they should jump ND even if they are unbeaten.

 

So if it wasn't bad enough that ND seems to be at the end of the unbeaten line, there is starting to be a discussion of whether they should even be ahead of a 1 loss LSU.

 

Will it ever happen, probably not, but the fact the discussion is even happening is a little disconcerting.

 

Pre-Season, the talk was the '85 Bears couldn't go 12-0 with this schedule. Now 12-0 might not even be good enough for the title game.

 

And you knew it would happen. Last week, Oklahoma is in the title picture with a win over ND. Now that they lost, the question is how good were they really, they beat up Texas and Kansas, big deal.

[WilhelmD 0]

And, I just made the mistake of going over to BSPN and saw the "Will ND finish the season undefeated poll?" 55% of the country thinks NO . . . so we have a lot of perception cleaning to do . . . yes, I fear Pitt and U$C, but there is no reason we should not beat them . . .

[EddieAngel 615]

Makes no nevermind. If Oregon runs the table, and beats SC and Stanford better than we beat SC and Stanford, we are out in the cold. Oregon's schedule is just heating up now (3 ranked opponents in 4 weeks), ours is just cooling down.

 

Basically, the only way we get in (IMO) is if we blow out USC while Oregon plays it close with USC and Stanford, or loses.

 

The OK win was enough for us to jump Oregon for this week, but it won't last. Oregon plays SC this week, the best we can hope for is an SC win or a close game. Anything else and our NC shot could be dead in the water right there (Supposing Oregon runs the table). Looking at K-State's remaining schedule, we could leapfrog them, but unlikely. And it looks to me like they will likely run the table as well. We need both of these teams to lose to get in. ND has done it's part, they built a tough schedule, they played it well, but we are going to need divine intervention to get a ticket to the NC game.

 

It was easy to say that there is no way a 12-0 ND team gets left out of the NC game when we were 6-0 and it was possible, not it is 8-0 and probable. Too bad the BCS sucks. If all four of the top 4 win out there is going to be a steaming hot mess at the end of the year.

[EddieAngel 615]

That is funny. I was just going to start a thread like this.

 

I'm starting to hear and read chatter that if LSU wins out, they should jump ND even if they are unbeaten.

 

So if it wasn't bad enough that ND seems to be at the end of the unbeaten line, there is starting to be a discussion of whether they should even be ahead of a 1 loss LSU.

 

Will it ever happen, probably not, but the fact the discussion is even happening is a little disconcerting.

 

Pre-Season, the talk was the '85 Bears couldn't go 12-0 with this schedule. Now 12-0 might not even be good enough for the title game.

 

And you knew it would happen. Last week, Oklahoma is in the title picture with a win over ND. Now that they lost, the question is how good were they really, they beat up Texas and Kansas, big deal.

 

The SEC suck fest is in full effect, wonder when ESPN is going to stop and wipe it's chin, so to speak.

 

You are dead on about OK though. IT is ridiculous to disrespect that team, their two losses are to BCS 2 and 3. If LSU beats Alabama they will likely launch into the number 1 spot, even though their loss is to a 2 loss South Carolina team, just SEC bias.

 

Time will tell though, ND needs to execute hard four weeks and we need to say our prayers (And possibly eat our vitamins)

[WilhelmD 0]

Unfortunately, EddieAngel is spot on as to what the perception is out there. Which is WHY we must change the dialogue. I am a trial attorney and we have an old saying, "When the law is against, you try the facts. When the facts are against you, try the law. When the law and the facts are against you, try the prosecutor." Our 'prosecutor' as it were is the ill-informed voters who have us too low vis-a-vis the other three unbeatens. Therefore, we must put the prosecutor on trial by making sure it is shown that they are wrong. And that they KNOW that the facts and law are actually on our side and not as they perceive them to be. We need Marisa Tomei to get on the witness stand to show that the defense [of KSU, ALA and OR over ND] is WRONG!

[Franco 0]

That is funny. I was just going to start a thread like this.

 

I'm starting to hear and read chatter that if LSU wins out, they should jump ND even if they are unbeaten.

 

So if it wasn't bad enough that ND seems to be at the end of the unbeaten line, there is starting to be a discussion of whether they should even be ahead of a 1 loss LSU.

 

Will it ever happen, probably not, but the fact the discussion is even happening is a little disconcerting.

 

Pre-Season, the talk was the '85 Bears couldn't go 12-0 with this schedule. Now 12-0 might not even be good enough for the title game.

 

And you knew it would happen. Last week, Oklahoma is in the title picture with a win over ND. Now that they lost, the question is how good were they really, they beat up Texas and Kansas, big deal.

 

I'm sorry, but there is NO WAY that a 1 loss LSU team jumps an undefeated Notre Dame that's primed for the National Championship game. This scenario dictates that Alabama loses (duh, if LSU wins out the rest of the year) and Oregon or KSU loses as well.

 

I think the NCAA, ESPN, and all the college football world wants to see Notre Dame and Alabama in the National Championship game. The buildup for that game would be immense; more than the LSU/Bama game, more than the past 5 NC games combined. That would be a HUGE ratings draw, it would be ridiculous

[corysold 0]

I'm sorry, but there is NO WAY that a 1 loss LSU team jumps an undefeated Notre Dame that's primed for the National Championship game. This scenario dictates that Alabama loses (duh, if LSU wins out the rest of the year) and Oregon or KSU loses as well.

 

I think the NCAA, ESPN, and all the college football world wants to see Notre Dame and Alabama in the National Championship game. The buildup for that game would be immense; more than the LSU/Bama game, more than the past 5 NC games combined. That would be a HUGE ratings draw, it would be ridiculous

 

Right, I totally agree that it is ridiculous to even think about, but the fact is it was thought about. The thought was basically, should 1 loss LSU be in for sure, and Oregon/K State/ND fight it out for the other spot if all were unbeaten. One guy wasn't sure, Mike Bellotti said no way, unbeatens get in first.

 

Logically of course that is a crazy argument, but the fact it is even mentioned is very telling.

[Rocketsan 881]

If Notre Dame is undefeated, they are playing in the national championship game...

[EddieAngel 615]

If Notre Dame is undefeated, they are playing in the national championship game...

 

In this case I disagree and pray to God I am wrong. If ND leapfrogs KSU (For whatever reason) what do you think the chances are that Te'o leapfrogs Colin Klein?

 

Did you guys see the article with Bosworth backing Manti for Heisman?

[chirodomer 47]

There is only one team in the nation that will draw the audience that the Neew York Yankees can and that is the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. The money generated by an Alabama vs Notre Dame Championship would never be topped. In the end, this is about money and popularity and it doesn't hurt that we are the prettiest at the pageant!

[corysold 0]

There is only one team in the nation that will draw the audience that the Neew York Yankees can and that is the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. The money generated by an Alabama vs Notre Dame Championship would never be topped. In the end, this is about money and popularity and it doesn't hurt that we are the prettiest at the pageant!

 

Sure, but the voters/coaches don't get paid wit any of that money. Are you suggesting they'd all change their vote just to get ND in? Really no reason for that in their eyes.

 

Yes, Alabama/ND would be the biggest college football game in who knows how long, but I'm not sure it works that way with the voters.

 

Hopefully it does, but who knows.

[HitchandGo 0]

If Notre Dame is undefeated, they are playing in the national championship game...

 

ND is clearly 4th in line right now. Without 2 teams going down, ND isn't going to be playing in the national championship game.

[OntarioIrish 10]

If Notre Dame is undefeated, they are playing in the national championship game...

 

Just because you keep saying that doesn't necessarily make it true (although I certainly wish it did); ND needs to not only run the table, but get some help as well.

[Rocketsan 881]

Just because you keep saying that doesn't necessarily make it true (although I certainly wish it did); ND needs to not only run the table, but get some help as well.

 

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[piratey 6]

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