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We are all hoping for minimum 10 wins for the season and it is very possible. Stumbling blocks are Oklahoma and U$C. I think the U$C game is very winnable and the Oklamhoma game is going to be a toss up depending on which team both teams show up with.

 

So, let's say (devil's:evil: advocate) that the Irish lose both of these games. Lose to Oklahoma, drop to 12 or 13 in the polls. Win the next 3 to potentially get back to top 10. Then the dreaded U$C game. If the Irish lose this game, there is the real possibility that they could drop out of the top 15.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't 15 the magic number for ranking to be considered for a BCS game?

 

So, a 10 win season, how can it be possible to land a BCS bowl? And if they do, won't that just add to the hate of our team?

 

Legal disclaimer: Football idiot, so asking for curiosity sake.

 

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We need to be top 12 to be considered....top 8 to be guaranteed a spot and I think there's some way we can get in if we're top 14. I think a 10-2 record will put us towards the top of the two loss teams depending on how we lose. The USC loss will hurt because its our last game but I think the voters will still want a 10-2 ND in a BCS game and we'll end up 10-12 and get in.

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We are all hoping for minimum 10 wins for the season and it is very possible. Stumbling blocks are Oklahoma and U$C. I think the U$C game is very winnable and the Oklamhoma game is going to be a toss up depending on which team both teams show up with.

 

So, let's say (devil's:evil: advocate) that the Irish lose both of these games. Lose to Oklahoma, drop to 12 or 13 in the polls. Win the next 3 to potentially get back to top 10. Then the dreaded U$C game. If the Irish lose this game, there is the real possibility that they could drop out of the top 15.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't 15 the magic number for ranking to be considered for a BCS game?

 

So, a 10 win season, how can it be possible to land a BCS bowl? And if they do, won't that just add to the hate of our team?

 

Legal disclaimer: Football idiot, so asking for curiosity sake.

 

GO IRISH!!!!

 

Dropping to 12 or 13 is not a given. It all depends on how we lose (if we lose). We could lose to OK by a point going for 2 and the win after a TD with little or no time left. In that case, I would think we would drop to no worse than 9 or 10.

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ND in top 8 is guaranteed, top 14 is eligible for at-large.

 

But remember that is BCS, not polls, so ND will get a bump from computers.

 

Plus other teams are going to lose as well, ND will be in the top 14 at 10-2. No BCS team in the last 5 years has had two or fewer losses and not been in the top 14 of the final pre-Bowl BCS standings.

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i think it also depends on how usc does. so if they are a one loss team when we play them that's different than them losing to oregon and another pac-12 team and having 3 losses. i think we fall farther if we are the clear favorite which we would be as 10-1 versus 8-3.

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ND in top 8 is guaranteed, top 14 is eligible for at-large.

 

But remember that is BCS, not polls, so ND will get a bump from computers.

 

Plus other teams are going to lose as well, ND will be in the top 14 at 10-2. No BCS team in the last 5 years has had two or fewer losses and not been in the top 14 of the final pre-Bowl BCS standings.

 

Winner ... winner... chicken dinner. I believe we will make it with a 10-2 record. Lets just get the Cougs, BC and Wake big and any loss to Oklahoma or U$C will not drop us out. But I believe we need to finish strong in LA.

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i think it also depends on how usc does. so if they are a one loss team when we play them that's different than them losing to oregon and another pac-12 team and having 3 losses. i think we fall farther if we are the clear favorite which we would be as 10-1 versus 8-3.

 

I think this is the key right here. If we A) Win against USC, we are in. If not then we need B) USC to be ranked in the top 10 and beat us in a close game. If USC is 12 or 13 and they beat us, we are assed out.

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I think this is the key right here. If we A) Win against USC, we are in. If not then we need B) USC to be ranked in the top 10 and beat us in a close game. If USC is 12 or 13 and they beat us, we are assed out.

 

This really just isn't true unless ND is going to get screwed.

 

As I said above, no BCS level team, which ND is, has been out of the top 14 with only two losses or fewer in at least the past 5 seasons.

 

There is no way that ND falls below 14 when things are all said and done if they only have two losses. It doesn't matter where USC is ranked.

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This really just isn't true unless ND is going to get screwed.

 

As I said above, no BCS level team, which ND is, has been out of the top 14 with only two losses or fewer in at least the past 5 seasons.

 

There is no way that ND falls below 14 when things are all said and done if they only have two losses. It doesn't matter where USC is ranked.

 

The screwing comes when you lose the last game of the season, unfortunately. If SC is out of the top 10 and ND drops that game, I don't see us getting in. Even though 2 loss teams are traditioanlly BCS worthy, late season losses are a constant caveat. Honestly, I don't think it is an issue as i think ND beats SC. We were better on both sides of the ball than SC was v. Stanford. Scored more, gave up less.

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The screwing comes when you lose the last game of the season, unfortunately. If SC is out of the top 10 and ND drops that game, I don't see us getting in. Even though 2 loss teams are traditioanlly BCS worthy, late season losses are a constant caveat. Honestly, I don't think it is an issue as i think ND beats SC. We were better on both sides of the ball than SC was v. Stanford. Scored more, gave up less.

 

Right, but you have to remember, it isn't just the polls. The computers matter as well, and they don't care when you lose.

 

Last year, Va Tech was #3 in the polls, #11 in the BCS, got blasted by Clemson 38-10, fell in the polls to the teens, but didn't move in the BCS.

 

I have a hard time believing that ND, while playing among the 10 toughest schedules in the country would be the first team in this BCS era to not to be in the top 14 with two or fewer losses.

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Right, but you have to remember, it isn't just the polls. The computers matter as well, and they don't care when you lose.

 

Last year, Va Tech was #3 in the polls, #11 in the BCS, got blasted by Clemson 38-10, fell in the polls to the teens, but didn't move in the BCS.

 

I have a hard time believing that ND, while playing among the 10 toughest schedules in the country would be the first team in this BCS era to not to be in the top 14 with two or fewer losses.

 

The human vote comprises part of the formula. I have a hard time believering that ND gets left out at 2 losses as well, it would be unprecidented and it would summon up a screaming s**tstorm of epic magnitude. So much so, in fact, that the usually villified ND fanbase would be widely considered to be in the right. No one wants to be responsible for screwing ND over, it is just not where you want to be when Jesus comes back.

 

Still, the BCS leaves someone deserving out in the cold every year.

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