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Heggie played last night and played decently....good block when he pulled on the McDaniel td. Just wanted to see if you saw it because like you, I never thought he would get playing time

 

Nope, didn't see it because the work TV was turned off by that point in-favor of the OSU game.

 

I wouldn't say a late-game block against a Miami team that had long-since quit is one for the highlight reel, but I assumed he'd have quit by this point in his career. So good for him, I guess.

 

Just for the record, though, he'll never start unless 10 other offensive linemen go down with mono at the same time. My stance on that has never changed. Heggie starting means something seriously went wrong on the offensive line.

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Nope, didn't see it because the work TV was turned off by that point in-favor of the OSU game.

 

I wouldn't say a late-game block against a Miami team that had long-since quit is one for the highlight reel, but I assumed he'd have quit by this point in his career. So good for him, I guess.

 

Just for the record, though, he'll never start unless 10 other offensive linemen go down with mono at the same time. My stance on that has never changed. Heggie starting means something seriously went wrong on the offensive line.

 

Pretty sure your stance was that he wouldn't play. He has.

Your wasted scholly ship has sailed.

 

Maybe your bizarre vendetta can end now.

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Pretty sure your stance was that he wouldn't play. He has.

Your wasted scholly ship has sailed.

 

Maybe your bizarre vendetta can end now.

 

Actually, it absolutely is still a wasted schollie! It could've/should've gone to a far better prospect. That is unlikely to change unless he develops into a starter. Besides, after this years O-line haul, I doubt he ever sees the field next year...

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Actually, it absolutely is still a wasted schollie! It could've/should've gone to a far better prospect. That is unlikely to change unless he develops into a starter. Besides, after this years O-line haul, I doubt he ever sees the field next year...

 

so given that logic, we have about 60 wasted schollys a year. That makes sense.

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so given that logic, we have about 60 wasted schollys a year. That makes sense.

 

Let's be real. Heggie is a Rudy story. Would you rather have Heggie or room for a potential elite player this year?

 

There is a difference between being a "depth guy" which every team has and needs and being a longshot.

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Pretty sure your stance was that he wouldn't play. He has.

Your wasted scholly ship has sailed.

 

Maybe your bizarre vendetta can end now.

 

No, it won't end. The kid isn't a starter, a role player or a even a depth guy. He's a body on the roster and a wasted scholarship.

 

And I didn't start a thread voicing my opinion on him. The OP started this thread to specifically talk about *my* feelings on him. If I started this tread, then maybe I'd have a bizarre vendetta. I haven't said a real word about Heggie in probably a year because someone *that* irrelevant in the team picture isn't worth discussing.

 

As it stands, I just don't think Heggie is any good. Standing on the field and making a block in garbage time against a team that quit a quarter ago doesn't make you any good. Let's see him make that same block in the first quarter against Oklahoma.

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Let's be real. Heggie is a Rudy story. Would you rather have Heggie or room for a potential elite player this year?

 

There is a difference between being a "depth guy" which every team has and needs and being a longshot.

 

I have no reason to believe that Heggie isn't a functional depth guy. He's played in 3 games in his first two years.

 

Revisionist history is all fine and dandy. Every kid with a scholly should be elite and all that fantastical thinking. I can name a good number of "elite" recruits whose level Heggie has already attained (Stockton, hardy, Walker, McDonald, mccarthey, Newman, etc..).

 

He's an ND kid. Works hard, represents the university well. Just don't see all the need to rag on him.

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No, it won't end. The kid isn't a starter, a role player or a even a depth guy. He's a body on the roster and a wasted scholarship.

 

And I didn't start a thread voicing my opinion on him. The OP started this thread to specifically talk about *my* feelings on him. If I started this tread, then maybe I'd have a bizarre vendetta. I haven't said a real word about Heggie in probably a year because someone *that* irrelevant in the team picture isn't worth discussing.

 

As it stands, I just don't think Heggie is any good. Standing on the field and making a block in garbage time against a team that quit a quarter ago doesn't make you any good. Let's see him make that same block in the first quarter against Oklahoma.

 

A gentleman just says the kid exceeded my expectations and I'm happy he's worked his way onto the field.

 

I'm not here to tell you you were wrong about this kid but it's obvious you were

wrong. You said a lot of demeaning things about him but the reality is just by working his way into playing time he's earned his scholarship.

 

Just tip your cap to the kid.

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A gentleman just says the kid exceeded my expectations and I'm happy he's worked his way onto the field.

 

I'm not here to tell you you were wrong about this kid but it's obvious you were

wrong. You said a lot of demeaning things about him but the reality is just by working his way into playing time he's earned his scholarship.

 

Just tip your cap to the kid.

 

Does Heggie play on special teams?

 

I'm asking, I don't know. If he does, then he is a depth guy.

 

If not, he's a guy who plays in the fourth quarter up 40 points, which, if the case, I'd rather be able to take an elite player this year.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure Heggie is a great guy, nice person, hard worker all that stuff. But this is big time BCS level college football. Every spot matters.

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I have no reason to believe that Heggie isn't a functional depth guy. He's played in 3 games in his first two years.

 

Revisionist history is all fine and dandy. Every kid with a scholly should be elite and all that fantastical thinking. I can name a good number of "elite" recruits whose level Heggie has already attained (Stockton, hardy, Walker, McDonald, mccarthey, Newman, etc..).

 

He's an ND kid. Works hard, represents the university well. Just don't see all the need to rag on him.

 

I've never said that other players on the roster did not live up to their high school accolades.

 

But I do believe that highly regarded players coming to Notre Dame caught the eye of other highly regarded players who *did* go on to really help Notre Dame. Even if they do nothing more than play on special teams, they helped in recruiting by creating positive momentum.

 

What did Dayne ever *really* do on the field at Notre Dame? His value as a high school recruit was much bigger to ND than a college player.

 

With that said, I'm done with this thread -- a thread I *did not create* and *did not ask to have created*. I'm not going to celebrate Heggie getting in during garbage time and making a block on someone who had already stopped caring about the game. If that small achievement when no one was watching (or caring) means he's a success story, then I guess I was wrong about Heggie.

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