Heggie played last night and played decently....good block when he pulled on the McDaniel td. Just wanted to see if you saw it because like you, I never thought he would get playing time

Heggie played last night and played decently....good block when he pulled on the McDaniel td. Just wanted to see if you saw it because like you, I never thought he would get playing time

 

Nope, didn't see it because the work TV was turned off by that point in-favor of the OSU game.

 

I wouldn't say a late-game block against a Miami team that had long-since quit is one for the highlight reel, but I assumed he'd have quit by this point in his career. So good for him, I guess.

 

Just for the record, though, he'll never start unless 10 other offensive linemen go down with mono at the same time. My stance on that has never changed. Heggie starting means something seriously went wrong on the offensive line.

Nope, didn't see it because the work TV was turned off by that point in-favor of the OSU game.

 

I wouldn't say a late-game block against a Miami team that had long-since quit is one for the highlight reel, but I assumed he'd have quit by this point in his career. So good for him, I guess.

 

Just for the record, though, he'll never start unless 10 other offensive linemen go down with mono at the same time. My stance on that has never changed. Heggie starting means something seriously went wrong on the offensive line.

 

Pretty sure your stance was that he wouldn't play. He has.

Your wasted scholly ship has sailed.

 

Maybe your bizarre vendetta can end now.

You know the season is going great when opinions about Bruce Heggie are the most heated topic of discussion on a Sunday night

Pretty sure your stance was that he wouldn't play. He has.

Your wasted scholly ship has sailed.

 

Maybe your bizarre vendetta can end now.

 

For what it worth, pretty sure that Heggie played last year as well.

I LOVE IT !!! I didnt see Heggie play but I know when he did he kicked some serious ass

Pretty sure your stance was that he wouldn't play. He has.

Your wasted scholly ship has sailed.

 

Maybe your bizarre vendetta can end now.

 

Actually, it absolutely is still a wasted schollie! It could've/should've gone to a far better prospect. That is unlikely to change unless he develops into a starter. Besides, after this years O-line haul, I doubt he ever sees the field next year...

Actually, it absolutely is still a wasted schollie! It could've/should've gone to a far better prospect. That is unlikely to change unless he develops into a starter. Besides, after this years O-line haul, I doubt he ever sees the field next year...

 

so given that logic, we have about 60 wasted schollys a year. That makes sense.

so given that logic, we have about 60 wasted schollys a year. That makes sense.

 

Let's be real. Heggie is a Rudy story. Would you rather have Heggie or room for a potential elite player this year?

 

There is a difference between being a "depth guy" which every team has and needs and being a longshot.

Pretty sure your stance was that he wouldn't play. He has.

Your wasted scholly ship has sailed.

 

Maybe your bizarre vendetta can end now.

 

No, it won't end. The kid isn't a starter, a role player or a even a depth guy. He's a body on the roster and a wasted scholarship.

 

And I didn't start a thread voicing my opinion on him. The OP started this thread to specifically talk about *my* feelings on him. If I started this tread, then maybe I'd have a bizarre vendetta. I haven't said a real word about Heggie in probably a year because someone *that* irrelevant in the team picture isn't worth discussing.

 

As it stands, I just don't think Heggie is any good. Standing on the field and making a block in garbage time against a team that quit a quarter ago doesn't make you any good. Let's see him make that same block in the first quarter against Oklahoma.

Edited October 8, 201212 yr by ColinKSU

Let's be real. Heggie is a Rudy story. Would you rather have Heggie or room for a potential elite player this year?

 

There is a difference between being a "depth guy" which every team has and needs and being a longshot.

 

I have no reason to believe that Heggie isn't a functional depth guy. He's played in 3 games in his first two years.

 

Revisionist history is all fine and dandy. Every kid with a scholly should be elite and all that fantastical thinking. I can name a good number of "elite" recruits whose level Heggie has already attained (Stockton, hardy, Walker, McDonald, mccarthey, Newman, etc..).

 

He's an ND kid. Works hard, represents the university well. Just don't see all the need to rag on him.

No, it won't end. The kid isn't a starter, a role player or a even a depth guy. He's a body on the roster and a wasted scholarship.

 

And I didn't start a thread voicing my opinion on him. The OP started this thread to specifically talk about *my* feelings on him. If I started this tread, then maybe I'd have a bizarre vendetta. I haven't said a real word about Heggie in probably a year because someone *that* irrelevant in the team picture isn't worth discussing.

 

As it stands, I just don't think Heggie is any good. Standing on the field and making a block in garbage time against a team that quit a quarter ago doesn't make you any good. Let's see him make that same block in the first quarter against Oklahoma.

 

A gentleman just says the kid exceeded my expectations and I'm happy he's worked his way onto the field.

 

I'm not here to tell you you were wrong about this kid but it's obvious you were

wrong. You said a lot of demeaning things about him but the reality is just by working his way into playing time he's earned his scholarship.

 

Just tip your cap to the kid.

We need to lose so that topics like this don't plague our free time....

A gentleman just says the kid exceeded my expectations and I'm happy he's worked his way onto the field.

 

I'm not here to tell you you were wrong about this kid but it's obvious you were

wrong. You said a lot of demeaning things about him but the reality is just by working his way into playing time he's earned his scholarship.

 

Just tip your cap to the kid.

 

Does Heggie play on special teams?

 

I'm asking, I don't know. If he does, then he is a depth guy.

 

If not, he's a guy who plays in the fourth quarter up 40 points, which, if the case, I'd rather be able to take an elite player this year.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure Heggie is a great guy, nice person, hard worker all that stuff. But this is big time BCS level college football. Every spot matters.

I have no reason to believe that Heggie isn't a functional depth guy. He's played in 3 games in his first two years.

 

Revisionist history is all fine and dandy. Every kid with a scholly should be elite and all that fantastical thinking. I can name a good number of "elite" recruits whose level Heggie has already attained (Stockton, hardy, Walker, McDonald, mccarthey, Newman, etc..).

 

He's an ND kid. Works hard, represents the university well. Just don't see all the need to rag on him.

 

I've never said that other players on the roster did not live up to their high school accolades.

 

But I do believe that highly regarded players coming to Notre Dame caught the eye of other highly regarded players who *did* go on to really help Notre Dame. Even if they do nothing more than play on special teams, they helped in recruiting by creating positive momentum.

 

What did Dayne ever *really* do on the field at Notre Dame? His value as a high school recruit was much bigger to ND than a college player.

 

With that said, I'm done with this thread -- a thread I *did not create* and *did not ask to have created*. I'm not going to celebrate Heggie getting in during garbage time and making a block on someone who had already stopped caring about the game. If that small achievement when no one was watching (or caring) means he's a success story, then I guess I was wrong about Heggie.

Edited October 8, 201212 yr by ColinKSU

I have no reason to believe that Heggie isn't a functional depth guy. He's played in 3 games in his first two years.

 

Revisionist history is all fine and dandy. Every kid with a scholly should be elite and all that fantastical thinking. I can name a good number of "elite" recruits whose level Heggie has already attained (Stockton, hardy, Walker, McDonald, mccarthey, Newman, etc..).

 

He's an ND kid. Works hard, represents the university well. Just don't see all the need to rag on him.

 

AGREED! i hope he loves notre dame as much as we do and gives back as much as he can before and after graduation.

If that small achievement when no one was watching (or caring) means he's a success story, then I guess I was wrong about Heggie.

 

Well THIS nobody was watching and so were a whole bunch of other "nobodies"

 

And considering the way you ran this poor kid down when he got a scholarship

saying he was a waste of space and stood no chance to ever see the field, it absolutely is an accomplishment.

 

I never understood your motivation to run this kid down. And I'll never understand your reluctance to admit your mistake.

Does Heggie play on special teams?

 

I'm asking, I don't know. If he does, then he is a depth guy.

 

If not, he's a guy who plays in the fourth quarter up 40 points, which, if the case, I'd rather be able to take an elite player this year.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure Heggie is a great guy, nice person, hard worker all that stuff. But this is big time BCS level college football. Every spot matters.

 

I thought that NDBadaBing's comment might have helped close this thread but I'll throw my two cents in towards that end.

 

I agree that it would be nice to have another spot open for the 2013 class and that Heggie was the type of reach that Kelly made (often with success) at his previous stops since those schools could not recruit the same blue chip prospects that ND historically attracted.

 

That said, at the time (2010 class), Heggie was a depth guy especially in light of ND only getting one other DE (Kona Schwenke) combined in the 2009 and 2010 classes. Note that Kona was a late (2/3/2010) commit as well. The 2011 recruiting haul with all of its DEs made Heggie expendable on defense so he was moved over to OL where he was (and probably still is) undersized. The fact that he has seen the field in two different seasons is a testament to 1) hard work on Heggie's part and 2) some lack of depth on the OL. The fact that later recruiting success has made it unlikely that Heggie will contribute beyond his current level on the OL does not disallow the argument that he was a valid 'depth guy' at DE at the time of his recruitment.

 

We have seen the negative impact that recruiting holes at a position can have down the road. Weis often did not have a Plan B when his Plan A's went elsewhere. It seems that Willingham often did not even have a Plan A. Kelly came into the 2010 recruiting cycle late and might reached for a Plan C but I believed that he wanted to get a second DE that fit profile no matter what. Given how he has developed ND's front seven from both a recruiting and development perspective, I think that we can give Kelly a mulligan on his 2010 DE offer to Heggie.

We need to lose so that topics like this don't plague our free time....

 

you being serious? knowing how pessimistic you are and how dumb some of your posts are... I am not sure if you are serious with that statement.

We need to lose so that topics like this don't plague our free time....

 

LOL...

 

you being serious? knowing how pessimistic you are and how dumb some of your posts are... I am not sure if you are serious with that statement.

 

LOL harder...

you being serious? knowing how pessimistic you are and how dumb some of your posts are... I am not sure if you are serious with that statement.

 

Yes. Yes, I'm joking Corky...