This is a carryover from the Twitterless thread, but I don't want to bog that one down.

 

Since it is the bye week and there isn't much else going on, I thought I'd bring it up.

 

Apparently, from his own words, he is trying to get back into ND. Here is a post from the Facebook page describing why he had to leave in the first place.

 

"Tee Shepard When i arrived on campus, everything was good...until the coaches found out that i wasn't clear...i was short some credits. 2 in alg. and 2 credits in history! the coaches tried to apply a waiver, but the NCAA didn't accept it...So therefore i wasn't suppose to be on campus because i didn't reach my 16 core....but before i left everything was cleared with THE NCAA which my highschool and coach denbrock had said....but the whole time my highschool was talking to Notre Dame compliance peoples in stead of the NCAA..."didn't find out until after the fact i was sent home" Then a couple more weeks later when i was out there at ND....The coaches lied and said that the NCAA had red flaged my ACT test but its was the people at notre dame that red flaged my test...."i passed the ACT test back in 2011 of oct." i knew there was a problem...~they had to find a way of getting rid of me~ so, my mother didn't want me to take the ACT test because she said that it wasn't right....so my mother sent me some papers for me to sign....and my mother never did recieve the papers i sign back......"come to find out that they had FORWARD my papers" so i ended up taking the ACT test somehow....and the coaches told me i had to reach a certein number...but they never told....so i ended up taking the test late in feb 2012.....and when its was spring break, i was sent home....never heard from the coaches again until this day! 33 minutes ago · Sent from Mobile

 

Willy Frazier Man, excuse my language, but that's fucked up!! Any possibility you can still go to ND? I will be praying for you nightly, brother. I hope you get your dream!! Man, and your Cuz, he made a mistake, he could be balling with ND right now, but I guess he had to follow his heart! Thanks for being real, bro. I will keep this between us, you have my word! 20 minutes ago

 

Tee Shepard I'm trying....I was trying to go back this sememster because i now have my 16 core classes....but BK shut the door in my face, i wondering would he shut it twice! but its all good...you may share it, i ain't tripping... 16 minutes ago · Sent from Mobile

 

Willy Frazier I'll share it if you want. People were saying all kids of stuff, I'll clear it up if you want. You're a great person and I think people should know what BK did, I've lost some respect for him. I mean you could have gone to any school in the country and I saw someone post that you're even telling future recruits to go there. It's a shame! Man, I really really hope you make it, its just wrong what they did. 11 minutes ago

 

Tee Shepard Yeah thanks man...I thought i had it made at Notre Dame until all that Junk went down...I'm a trying to get back in the school tho:) If he shuts the door on me again...then i believe another school will be a better choice...but yeah, please share it...Its so many rumors out there..."i didn't leave because of my attitude, minor heart surgery, academic, smoking weed.....etc...." none of above....lol 4 minutes ago · Sent from Mobile

 

Tee Shepard and the crazy part about it, i'm still trying to get kids to go to ND....like LJ Moore for a perfect example! I just love Notre Dame Period!!!! 2 minutes ago · Sent from Mobile"

 

All that said, I am sure there are two sides to this story, but you can't deny the kid seems to really like, if not love ND.

 

Who knows where the truth lies in the matter, but if a 5* CB wants back into ND, who am I to stop him?

I find it hard to believe that ND would turn down an elite CB like Tee if they were willing to allow him to EE. Maybe there were Clearinghouse issues. He might have been told what the minimum ACT score was but didn't realize that qualification is more complicated than that. There's a minimum ACT score that corresponds to each HS GPA: https://web1.ncaa.org/eligibilitycenter/hs/d1_standards.pdf

BK said that ship has sailed...

that whole thing is messed up, i really hope it all works out in the end for shepherd. just sounds like a lot of people really don't know whats going on and all need to get on the same page, come on help the kid out.

BK said that ship has sailed...

 

Right, I'm just wondering if this is after that fact or before.

 

There is obviously more to the story, but it seems a little strange that a 5* CB who wants to come to ND is having so much trouble.

The more this kid spews off, the less I care for his story...

 

With the way he has aired his laundry, I'd assume his chances of coming back are less than zero...

 

And I'm fine with that.

Leads me to believe that Tee must've really pissed Kelly off in some way.

It just feels like a jaded ex-girlfriend trying to justify screwing up...

 

I think if Tee's version of events were true, he'd be at ND right now.

Leads me to believe that Tee must've really pissed Kelly off in some way.

 

hmmm... could it have been also those insane 3AM tweets about looking for love?

 

it does speak to a lack of maturity that perhaps Kelly didn't want to take on at the time.

I believe his hearing has held him back academically. Yes. That is a contributing factor to his struggles in the classroom and as a result regressed behind his classmates academically.

 

However, I believe that's a seperate argument, if he was an early enrollee who was provided a scholarship that he did not properly qualify for, that would be the bigger issue. Simply put, if his schollie was revoked b/c of academic mishandlings within our clearinghouse department, we would have the egg on our face and he could have recourse against us.

 

However, he was dismissed on our end through a medical hardship, where we or a potential future program would pay for his future medical clearance, and as a result not have to sit the year out to play elsewhere...This solution keeps our admissions team out of the papers, and gives the #1 overall cb in the country an alternative to pursue his academics/athletics elsewhere.

 

Now, months after signing day, the other programs who made promises to get him on campus or enrolled for fall eligibility have fallen through, atleast to those he would consider enrolling into...And that may be a result of the medical issues or it may be academic qualification or integrity questions

 

If he is medically cleared to play, he should be eligible for fall enrollment and practices. He may have to enroll in a summer prep class to get the hours/gpa up from his failed spring semester (if he was not able to withdraw without prejudice). This sounds like/ seems to be Tee's plan. Get eligible and as soon as possible.

 

If however, he is medically not cleared to play ANYWHERE. Than Tee may now have a change of heart, simply put, he may not have been willing to accept his life dream of pro football is over and he reacted quickly and as teenagers often do...While the University has an honor code for students to live up to and his twitter musings may have gone in the face of good taste and what we would hope for from the representatives of the program, it is not all together unique from 18-19 year olds today. The lesson may have been learned, and it may have been the first time anyone in his life has tried to tell/teach him the Herm Edwards rule of "don't press send"... The NFL gives their rookies an orientation class outlining the reality of the world they live in...Possibly Tee could have benefited from hearing some of these lessons too...

 

It seems Tee is very much interested in coming back to notre dame, and even if that is only for the education as his physical ailment may now preclude him from competition, than the university should honor that contract the same as it has done for other medical redshirts in the past. The university has the money necessary to cover his education (presuming he is able to qualify, he should be granted re-admittance to the University, and he may even be a member of the athletic training, student-manager prorgram or the other ancillary roles he may seek involved with the sport).

 

I realize the University is no longer obligated to honor any scholarship to Tee as a result of his withdrawal from the University, however doing the right thing is often times not legally mandated.

 

All of that being said, it comes down to Tee being of sound character and academic merit to garner re-admittance into the university. I for one, believe that is a fight that Tee will not win.

 

...and to those who wonder where those tweets went, I presume they were deleted from all pages at the recommendation of Notre Dame's Sports Information Department. It benefits no one from taking these discussions to the twitterverse and it may be those trying to help Tee gain readmittance in the University behind the removal of those tweets. simply put, show you've learned your lesson about using twitter...

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hmmm... could it have been also those insane 3AM tweets about looking for love?

 

it does speak to a lack of maturity that perhaps Kelly didn't want to take on at the time.

 

His twitter account had almost no impact on the university's decision....any insistence on this is not only uninformed but is exactly the type of dribble this site claims and promotes itself in avoiding.

 

Stop perpetuating these false rumors that were born out of the mind of someone with zero connection to any involved parties, and by definition is speculative bullspit

His twitter account had almost no impact on the university's decision....any insistence on this is not only uninformed but is exactly the type of dribble this site claims and promotes itself in avoiding.

 

Stop perpetuating these false rumors that were born out of the mind of someone with zero connection to any involved parties, and by definition is speculative bullspit

 

Yeah, I'm with you on this. These "3 AM tweets" come up on the boards all the time, but as an outsider, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that those tweets had any contribution to Tee not being with ND.

 

Some people say "yeah but he had practice the next day!" and make it seem like these were a regular occurrence. I believe it happened one or two times, and on days where practice wasn't scheduled for the next day.

Yeah, I'm with you on this. These "3 AM tweets" come up on the boards all the time, but as an outsider, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that those tweets had any contribution to Tee not being with ND.

 

Some people say "yeah but he had practice the next day!" and make it seem like these were a regular occurrence. I believe it happened one or two times, and on days where practice wasn't scheduled for the next day.

 

He wasn't practicing anyway.

I think the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle of all this: academic eligibility issues seem to have forced Tee out, and it's unclear where the responsibility for this lies: Tee? coaching staff? admissions? NCAA?

 

That being said, Tee's 3 am Tweets were not an anomaly. I remember that he posted on Facebook at all hours of the night on a regular basis. But that's not really the most damning part. What's especially bad is that he's now waging a personal campaign to get back to ND while accusing the coaching staff of lying in the spring. Does anyone seriously think that this staff, which threw Lynch under the bus, would make an attempt to readmit Tee after he's publicly accused them of lying?

 

I feel really bad for the kid, because at heart, I think he's a really good kid who has struggled through a lot of adversity. But the chances of him coming to ND now are zilch, and I wish for his sake he could move on and find a good place where he can earn a degree and play football.

Even if the story is accurate, I cant really blame Kelly and staff for what they did. They were breaking the rules, so when they found out that they were breaking the rules set by the NCAA, they did what they needed to stop breaking the rule.

 

As for Tee coming back (again if the story is true), I have a feeling the staff wants to stay clear of possible controversy and would rather just move on. However, it seems like Tee is trying a second time which is odd in my opinion, maybe he believes he has a shot still.

 

This whole situation just seems odd. How did Notre Dame not know that he was short 4 credits?... there are multiple people in full-time positions who find this stuff out for a living.

Even if the story is accurate, I cant really blame Kelly and staff for what they did. They were breaking the rules, so when they found out that they were breaking the rules set by the NCAA, they did what they needed to stop breaking the rule.

 

As for Tee coming back (again if the story is true), I have a feeling the staff wants to stay clear of possible controversy and would rather just move on. However, it seems like Tee is trying a second time which is odd in my opinion, maybe he believes he has a shot still.

 

This whole situation just seems odd. How did Notre Dame not know that he was short 4 credits?... there are multiple people in full-time positions who find this stuff out for a living.

 

If what Tee said is true... it seems that he had all the credits, but they were not properly registered by some clearinghouse - NCAA... because his coaches/school spoke to ND, and not the NCAA.

 

I find it credible that if ND found itself not in compliance, that the most expedient and easy route would be to not clear him medically.

 

As for tweets... I absolutely was speculating... which is dangerous as it could be interpreted as "truth"... so I apologize.

 

BUT, tweets also didn't help that CB from NJ... the difference is that the cord was safely cut with a schollie withdrawl.

 

I also feel... that there's usually some path to set things straight, and that if Kelly really wanted to have Tee on campus, they would have found a way sooner rather than later. So, for me, the question is why didn't Kelly pursue the extra effort? If Tee would have found himself on a medical redshirt... then it has no impact to the program in terms of schollie numbers.

Even if the story is accurate, I cant really blame Kelly and staff for what they did. They were breaking the rules, so when they found out that they were breaking the rules set by the NCAA, they did what they needed to stop breaking the rule.

 

As for Tee coming back (again if the story is true), I have a feeling the staff wants to stay clear of possible controversy and would rather just move on. However, it seems like Tee is trying a second time which is odd in my opinion, maybe he believes he has a shot still.

 

This whole situation just seems odd. How did Notre Dame not know that he was short 4 credits?... there are multiple people in full-time positions who find this stuff out for a living.

 

I think your first line is probably the most accurate. ND is going to want no part in a NCAA recruiting probe(rightly or wrongly), and felt the best course was to just drop the matter all together. IMO they don't want to revisit this issue by allowing him back in because the things that happened earlier could come back and bite them in the end. I could be wrong but I think something similar to improper benefits, something along that line of thinking, could come up against ND. Basically saying we were paying for some kid to live on campus, who may not have been cleared for EE, could be breaking the rules. Of course I could be coming out of left field with this thought....

I enjoyed his friend telling him that him and his cousin made a mistake by not coming to ND. I think these two and some Lynch kid are reall yregretting those decision. BTW, with everyone talking about the stellar defense we had this year, no one is talking about Lynch....hahahahaha....I love it.

His twitter account had almost no impact on the university's decision....any insistence on this is not only uninformed but is exactly the type of dribble this site claims and promotes itself in avoiding.

 

Stop perpetuating these false rumors that were born out of the mind of someone with zero connection to any involved parties, and by definition is speculative bullspit

 

All of this speculation comes down to a simple universal truth which holds true despite all the bluster.

 

Those who tell, don't know; and those who know, don't tell.

I couldn't make heads or tails out of what he wrote, much less analyze whether it was true.

I couldn't make heads or tails out of what he wrote, much less analyze whether it was true.

 

+1 ^^^^

 

I just understood the jest of it that BK told him he had to leave and wouldn't talk to him again. It is obviously related to credits and ACT scores but WOW, that was all over the place.