rocket31 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/notre-dame-@-michigan-state.cfm/date/9-15-12/time/2000#BT i expected MSU to be near a TD favorite but vegas likes our team again apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishrb 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 It's now at 4. If the line gets up to 5.5, the Irish are toast. I'm telling you, when the spread goes up by 3 or more, back in the day, those were my sure bets....90% of the time, or more, that team covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLeastMySisWasIrish 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 It's now at 4. If the line gets up to 5.5, the Irish are toast. I'm telling you, when the spread goes up by 3 or more, back in the day, those were my sure bets....90% of the time, or more, that team covered. And we were a 14 point fave over Purdue...I was completely wrong suggesting to take the Irish so this week I suggest betting Sparty. College lines are far less accurate than Pro...just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corysold 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 It's now at 4. If the line gets up to 5.5, the Irish are toast. I'm telling you, when the spread goes up by 3 or more, back in the day, those were my sure bets....90% of the time, or more, that team covered. For us non-gamblers, can you explain why the line going up so much is bad news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Apple 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 For us non-gamblers, can you explain why the line going up so much is bad news? because when money is in play it's the most unbias opinion of who is going to win, one can get. ND typically doesn't win when they are not supposed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishrb 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 For us non-gamblers, can you explain why the line going up so much is bad news? When the line keeps going up, it's because the big betters are putting a ton of money on one team. The odds makers try to get people to bet on the other team by continuing to push it up. If they have to keep pushing it up, not changing people's, the big betters usually know more than the odds makers.....or someone knows something. I'll say this, I haven't bet since college, which has been 18 years now. I used to have a "person in the know" give me inside information....for a specified amount of money. College basketball was his thing. There were NUMEROUS times he would tell me so and so's star player will be "hurt" during the game and to bet against them. Games like this had the spread go up by 3 or more points.... I don't think games are fixed as much any more but when the spread keeps going up, the big guys generally know what they are doing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameroncrazy 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 When the line keeps going up, it's because the big betters are putting a ton of money on one team. The odds makers try to get people to bet on the other team by continuing to push it up. If they have to keep pushing it up, not changing people's, the big betters usually know more than the odds makers.....or someone knows something. I'll say this, I haven't bet since college, which has been 18 years now. I used to have a "person in the know" give me inside information....for a specified amount of money. College basketball was his thing. There were NUMEROUS times he would tell me so and so's star player will be "hurt" during the game and to bet against them. Games like this had the spread go up by 3 or more points.... I don't think games are fixed as much any more but when the spread keeps going up, the big guys generally know what they are doing.. What if ND is actually really really good and all our players got "hurt" against Purdue so we don't look as good and get people to pick MSU and then in reality we stomp that sweet spartan ass next Saturday night. I'm going with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishrb 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I'll go with that too. I do hope the spread stops going up though. 1.5 doesn't mean anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErickJD08 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 When the line keeps going up, it's because the big betters are putting a ton of money on one team. The odds makers try to get people to bet on the other team by continuing to push it up. If they have to keep pushing it up, not changing people's, the big betters usually know more than the odds makers.....or someone knows something. I'll say this, I haven't bet since college, which has been 18 years now. I used to have a "person in the know" give me inside information....for a specified amount of money. College basketball was his thing. There were NUMEROUS times he would tell me so and so's star player will be "hurt" during the game and to bet against them. Games like this had the spread go up by 3 or more points.... I don't think games are fixed as much any more but when the spread keeps going up, the big guys generally know what they are doing.. I know the NFL has the home team given 3 points. Is that the same with college? If so, ND started as .5 favorites on a neural field if that says anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgandonor 45 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Last I checked Vegas wasn't a non profit organization either. I think it can play both sides of the fence... They don't know just as we don't know they set the line based of bets place for each team. If everyone is firing on MSU Vegas hopes Notre dame wins. As a rule of thumb home teams give three points most of the time. This rule of it being 5 or higher would mean that every one who bets is a millionaire. Because its just that easy. No logic behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend 710 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 It's now at 4. If the line gets up to 5.5, the Irish are toast. I'm telling you, when the spread goes up by 3 or more, back in the day, those were my sure bets....90% of the time, or more, that team covered. What was the line for the Arkansas game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer 75 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Traditionally, the home team gets 3 points. Period. Of course unless its some SEC playing a cupcake.Oh Wait... that has happened the past 2 weeks. Debate for another time. Bottom line is MSU is a top 10 team playing at home against a #20 team. I say 1 point over the standard home team line is Vegas being conservative and waiting to see where the money comes in from. ND fans are rabid, myopic and rich... Vegas is playing those odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLeastMySisWasIrish 0 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Traditionally, the home team gets 3 points. Period. Of course unless its some SEC playing a cupcake.Oh Wait... that has happened the past 2 weeks. Debate for another time. Bottom line is MSU is a top 10 team playing at home against a #20 team. I say 1 point over the standard home team line is Vegas being conservative and waiting to see where the money comes in from. ND fans are rabid, myopic and rich... Vegas is playing those odds. But rich for a reason...I never met a bet I didn't like but rarely do anything with ND. It would be interesting to know how much action the books take with ND versus a Bama, SC etc...Back to our spread though, if it stays below 7 I think it begs well for ND in the eyes of those who know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali_domer 298 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Up to +5.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali_domer 298 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 +5.5 +6 on some sites Climbing up, not liking this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey 6 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 +5.5 +6 on some sites Climbing up, not liking this. I wouldn't put money on ND at that line. If it was at 7.5 I would think about it. I think there is potential for Sparty to win by two scores, 10 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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