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Guest NDLawJAG

I really do not think Green is a five star player... He and USCs QB shot up scout s rankings as soon as they committed. I mentioned it a while back because I thought it was funny that SC 4th choice was ranked higher than their 2nd and 3rd.

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Now I do not usually go in for conspiracy theorys but has anyone looked at Scouts new top 100. Every USC player is a 5* player except Szakacsy who is a four star.

 

Aron Corp... who is he?? No one even talks about him and then he commits to SC and he is the number 6 QB in the country. I'm not even sure he is number six in Cali. He is only rated 5 spots ahead of Paulus.... USC number two choice.

 

Martin Coleman... He lived in Tonga last year. Granted that he is a great physical speciman but he needs experience. He was no where near any Top 100 list until he commits to USC. Nows hes number 32 in the country and number 5 OL in the country. USC gave him an ultimatum that they would offer if he accepted immediately... He did. Not the norm for a Blue chipper that is in the top 5 in the country.

 

Broderick Green??? Top 30 Player, Number 5 runningback in the country?? Runs a 4.6 forty.

 

For context, ESPN has 78, 85, and 74 respectively.... 3-4 stars respectively.

 

Gallippo is a 5* player.... but beyond that??

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Guest Irishmac1988

don't worry bout the star system...especially on scout. Huge debate going on right now about the biased opinions of the "experts" and there have actually been occasions where they have been caught contradicting their previous ranking beliefs...so dont worry bout it, its all bs. And I'd much rather have Weis' word for it than anyone else

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Guest VagasFerguson44

The day of reckoning will be on field. When our 3 and 4 stars beat their 5 stars then it won't really matter will it.

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Guest NDLawJAG

I think it is great thing to say but... I disagree. Clearly there are some three star guys go on to greatness and five stars that fail because they are overrated, get bad coaching, bad systen or are bad apples. Statistically, the higher the stars the better the chances a player will do well.

 

I believe that scouting groups are biased (towards some teams, regions, physical builds) but I think if you look at all the major ones you will get a good feel for a players potential. If you look at NDs offense last year, only two players were not at least a four star or a top 150 player (Schwapp and Santucci).

 

I also notice that most of the plyers we talk about on here and that CW is recruiting are highly ranked. If CW identifys a player that is 3* that is his first choice then I trust him but I would not rather have a three star that is CW third choice over a five star that goes elsewhere.

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Guest TDJesus3

stars aren't only based on stats, alot of it is based on combine numbers, and size, DW's combine numbers weren't that great

 

that is part of the problem with stars, alot of kids get missed and alot of kids are just football players

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Guest TDJesus3

stars provide us a basis but you never know how a kid will develop

 

a good coach can develop a kid, or a bad coach can ruin him, plus these kids play in different systems and different areas, its hard to judge the film always, and as the guys in the NFL know, you can't rely on 40 times and bench reps

 

the good coaches see what they want on film and then develop the talent when it gets on campus and i think charlie will be better than anyone at doing that, he developed alot of the talent that was already here, talent that until him had been considered a bust, now these kids will be NFL picks, just wait till he develops his guys, i think you will see that with the freshman this year...Stewart will be a great example hes going to be a monster, hes already lost like 50 pounds and they have been working on his technique, this kid will go from good to great under this staff, where somewhere else he may have just stayed as the decent player...tennessee is a place in my opinon where high star guys go to die, they underdevelop all of their talent....worry less about stars and worry more about charlie targets

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Guest NDLawJAG

Walker was a three star on some boards but Hodge had him in the top 150. I agree about stewart but remember he was a four star, top 150 guy.

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Guest TDJesus3

i know he ended up 4 but im telling u now he gets into shape like he has been he may end up being the best guard in the country, hes a monster

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I still dont see how Darius Walker was a 3 start prospect after rushing for 1900 yds and 46 touchdowns his senior season. broke Herschel Walkers', state rushing record also. If i'm not mistaken ????

 

Easy, he wasn't offered by UGA.

 

They had another RB they wanted ahead of him. When the in-state school passes on a prospect the recruiters take notice - negatively. Walker also wasn't considered to have the size for a bell cow nor the top speed for a breakaway back. He also involved with a lawsuit which might not have pleased some coaches/recruiters.

 

And then if he didn't have great combines numbers, he doesn't get to offset the perceived negatives.

 

I'm glad UGA passed.

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