He would be playing against South Florida.

 

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/28/michigan-state-reinstates-te-dion-sims/

Six months after pleading guilty to his involvement in a laptop theft ring that victimized the Detroit Public Schools, Dion Sims has been reinstated to the Michigan State football program.

 

Sims was one of ten men arrested and charged for their involvement in a scheme that resulted in the theft of 104 laptops from the school system worth nearly $160,000. Sims pleaded guilty to felony receiving and concealing stolen property, and was

This is from a school district so in the red they had to close half their schools...

 

and

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6266312&campaign=rss&source=NCFHeadlines

Dantonio also said tight end Brian Linthicum and linebacker Max Bullough will sit out the first few practices of the spring as part of the program's internal discipline.

 

Both players were arrested earlier this month in Aspen, Colo. Linthicum was charged with misdemeanor assault and eluding police, and Bullough, 19, with possession of alcohol by a minor and eluding an officer

 

Remember Chris L Rucker last year?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5738854

Michigan State defensive back Chris L. Rucker was reinstated after serving eight days in jail following a drunken-driving arrest.

 

He was arrested Oct. 10 in East Lansing on a charge of drunken driving and pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of reckless driving. Rucker was sentenced to 12 months of probation and 150 hours of community service for assault less than a year ago for his role in an on-campus fight.

Maybe Floyd wont miss that much time. We are all expecting the worst right now (and the worst may be coming) but I am going to be optimistic about this. Floyd will definitely be suspended the 1st game of the season (and he should be) but I could see him back by the Michigan game as long as he keeps his nose clean.

As high as his BaC was, I can assure you that he is not getting it dropped to reckless in Indiana. If you want to know what is most likely to happen to MF just ask SpeedsterX. I guarantee you that Speedy has been to court with every judge that MF is likely to face and I'll bet you dollar that he gets smacked.

And if Floyd was at BYU he would have been kicked out years ago.. Lets hope he doesn't miss much time but like most of you guys I think he is done :(:(

Like I've said before, Kelly must have been planning to play this season without him anyways considering we all had a feeling he would enter the draft. I think we'll get him back after 5 or 6 games. In year 2 we should really see some more complex routes and reads from our offense. If Kelly can "manufacture offense" with the UC team he had, he can do some manufacturing with the caliber of athlete we have at Notre Dame especially in year 2. If he can't, shame on our program, coaches and players included.

Maybe Floyd wont miss that much time. We are all expecting the worst right now (and the worst may be coming) but I am going to be optimistic about this. Floyd will definitely be suspended the 1st game of the season (and he should be) but I could see him back by the Michigan game as long as he keeps his nose clean.

 

You do know ResLife are the ones doling out the punishment, right? If this was up to BK or the athletic department, I am sure his punishment would be harsher than at most Universities. But when you have a bunch of holier-than-thou nerds who couldn't care less about football calling the shots, it's lights out.

He would be playing against South Florida.

 

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/28/michigan-state-reinstates-te-dion-sims/

 

This is from a school district so in the red they had to close half their schools...

 

and

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6266312&campaign=rss&source=NCFHeadlines

 

 

Remember Chris L Rucker last year?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5738854

 

thanks for posting this piratey

 

my gf and i were just talking about this last night. she heard two spring practices. wow, that must really hurt not to have to go to practice. i suppose they will just have to go out and find something fun (illegal) to do to keep them busy.

 

Dantonio is a joke.

Echo has a good bead on it. Res Life has scared off at least two kids that come to mind in recent history (Fauria and Yeatman), and feels no remorse for messing with an athlete's career.

 

Furthermore, that kids like Sims or Rucker can commit felonies and still get back on the team is an outrage. I hope ND never stoops that low.

As high as his BaC was, I can assure you that he is not getting it dropped to reckless in Indiana. If you want to know what is most likely to happen to MF just ask SpeedsterX. I guarantee you that Speedy has been to court with every judge that MF is likely to face and I'll bet you dollar that he gets smacked.

 

Actually, he'll get hit harder by Res Life than from our Liberal justice system here in St. Joe County. He'll have to pay some cash, lose his license and take a couple of diversion programs. That'll pretty much be it legally. Res Life is where we are going to get hurt by this if history is any proof.

Speedy is right. I still don't think Res Life should hit him that hard though. Suspend him now. He misses all of spring and returns in the summer for classes and football. He works his tail off attending diversion programs and volunteering any extra second he has to embetter himself NOW! If necessary, suspend him now and for the summer session. He still works his tail off every second of the day to embetter himself and is ready to go against USF.

with all due respect to speedster's experience, i doubt that st. joe county is an different than any other county in indiana. i do not live in indiana now, but in texas michael floyd would be looking at at fine and probation similar to what he faces in south bend. if he has a minnesota license it's doubtful that indiana can suspend his license.

 

in fairness, these are not the crimes of the century. they should be taken them seriously because the consequences can be so much more severe than they typically are. however, the legislatures in indiana and texas (as well as every other state) have determined these are misdemeanor offenses with no more than a year incarceration at stake. in floyd's case, he is alleged to have blown a .019, which makes it a class a misdemeanor as opposed to a class c. depending on what type of machine that was used, a decent attorney may get it knocked down to a class c, with lesser potential penalties.

 

if floyd pleads guilty to a misdemeanor (regardless of class), the judge will probably consider any previous convictions, but most likely in order to determine whether he should undergo some type of counseling while on probation. if you want jail time for these offenses, then the legislature needs to make them felonies. i can tell you that indiana taxpayers probably dont want to spend $1200 or so for each month someone is locked up on a dwi. that's a large part of what drives such sentences designed by the legislature.

with all due respect to speedster's experience, i doubt that st. joe county is an different than any other county in indiana. i do not live in indiana now, but in texas michael floyd would be looking at at fine and probation similar to what he faces in south bend. if he has a minnesota license it's doubtful that indiana can suspend his license.

 

in fairness, these are not the crimes of the century. they should be taken them seriously because the consequences can be so much more severe than they typically are. however, the legislatures in indiana and texas (as well as every other state) have determined these are misdemeanor offenses with no more than a year incarceration at stake. in floyd's case, he is alleged to have blown a .019, which makes it a class a misdemeanor as opposed to a class c. depending on what type of machine that was used, a decent attorney may get it knocked down to a class c, with lesser potential penalties.

 

if floyd pleads guilty to a misdemeanor (regardless of class), the judge will probably consider any previous convictions, but most likely in order to determine whether he should undergo some type of counseling while on probation. if you want jail time for these offenses, then the legislature needs to make them felonies. i can tell you that indiana taxpayers probably dont want to spend $1200 or so for each month someone is locked up on a dwi. that's a large part of what drives such sentences designed by the legislature.

 

With all respect right back 'atcha, I totally agree with everything you said here and it will probably play a more important role than the political tendencies of the judges, I will give you that.

 

With that said, this, "i doubt that st. joe county is an different than any other county in indiana." Is absolutely wrong. Example: http://www.domerdomain.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34187

 

Trust me, St. Joe and Lake County are completely different animals compared to the other 90+ counties in Indiana and it shows in the judging of sentences many times not to mention many other aspects of Indiana life.

 

Also just a little nit, Floyd blew a .19

 

Cheers

You do know ResLife are the ones doling out the punishment, right? If this was up to BK or the athletic department, I am sure his punishment would be harsher than at most Universities. But when you have a bunch of holier-than-thou nerds who couldn't care less about football calling the shots, it's lights out.

 

I do understand that, but we cant get overly pessimistic about this yet. Floyd will definitely be punished (as he should be) but who knows how severe his punishment will be? Im just trying to stay positive until a definite decision has been made.

You would think that the ResLife administers of justice would get a lot of heat from their fellow classmates to not be so brutal in the dishing out of punishment. I find it weird that it's seemingly just the opposite. I'm assuming these guys don't get invited to a lot of parties.

I do understand that, but we cant get overly pessimistic about this yet. Floyd will definitely be punished (as he should be) but who knows how severe his punishment will be? Im just trying to stay positive until a definite decision has been made.

 

The reason for pessimism stems from their history of treatment as it pertains to football players. Historically speaking, he is f***ed.

The reason for pessimism stems from their history of treatment as it pertains to football players. Historically speaking, he is f***ed.

 

I may be way off base here, but I'm not sure the Fauria and Yeatman cases are necessarily an indication of what will happen to Floyd in the university disciplinary process. Despite its history and reputation, Res Life is still part of a university that takes great pride in graduating not only its athletes, but its general student population as well. A punishment for an alcohol-related offense meted out to a senior-to-be like Floyd that could cause him to leave the university without a degree would not be just a mark against the NCAA graduation rate, but a mark against the mission of the school itself to shepherd students through from their freshman year to graduation. The harsher penalties that Fauria and Yeatman received were given to underclassmen who could sit out a year and, if they so chose, still return to Notre Dame for their degrees and life-preparation. Punishing Floyd to the extent that he feels it necessary to leave the school and possibly forego obtaining a college degree would not serve the best interests of Michael or the university.

 

Here's hoping anyway.

With all respect right back 'atcha, I totally agree with everything you said here and it will probably play a more important role than the political tendencies of the judges, I will give you that.

 

With that said, this, "i doubt that st. joe county is an different than any other county in indiana." Is absolutely wrong. Example: http://www.domerdomain.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34187

 

Trust me, St. Joe and Lake County are completely different animals compared to the other 90+ counties in Indiana and it shows in the judging of sentences many times not to mention many other aspects of Indiana life.

 

Also just a little nit, Floyd blew a .19

 

Cheers

 

sorry about the typo. wishful thinking on my part that it was .019 as opposed to .19 because then we wouldnt have a crime at all, but a guy who had 1 beer six or so hours earlier than the test. if he does plead guilty, i will be curious to see what the actual charge is. i dont know who represents him, but there may be some wiggle room there, but as you mentioned earlier it's doubtful he will get down to reckless. (of course, if he did that might support your position that st. joe county is really corrupt).

 

regarding the bigger point that i was trying to make, i should have been more clear. "i doubt that st. joe county is an different than any other county in indiana" in terms of the typical penalty for a misdemeanor dwi. it's not going to result in jail time, unless there are some extenuating circumstances.

 

i hope (and expect) that is the case with floyd here. as far as reslife is concerned, i hope they dont totally gut his season. i was reading they have some new people and so the precedents of fauria and yeatman may not be as strong now. it will be interesting to see if kelly (or the kelly era) has any better luck with reslife. i think that ragone got a fairly light punishment compared to yeatman and fauria. ragone happened on kelly's watch while the other 2 were from the weis era. i'm curious to see if there is any pattern and hope for the best.

 

cheers

I may be way off base here, but I'm not sure the Fauria and Yeatman cases are necessarily an indication of what will happen to Floyd in the university disciplinary process. Despite its history and reputation, Res Life is still part of a university that takes great pride in graduating not only its athletes, but its general student population as well. A punishment for an alcohol-related offense meted out to a senior-to-be like Floyd that could cause him to leave the university without a degree would not be just a mark against the NCAA graduation rate, but a mark against the mission of the school itself to shepherd students through from their freshman year to graduation. The harsher penalties that Fauria and Yeatman received were given to underclassmen who could sit out a year and, if they so chose, still return to Notre Dame for their degrees and life-preparation. Punishing Floyd to the extent that he feels it necessary to leave the school and possibly forego obtaining a college degree would not serve the best interests of Michael or the university.

 

Here's hoping anyway.

 

all good points. and much better said than my effort.

I may be way off base here, but I'm not sure the Fauria and Yeatman cases are necessarily an indication of what will happen to Floyd in the university disciplinary process. Despite its history and reputation, Res Life is still part of a university that takes great pride in graduating not only its athletes, but its general student population as well. A punishment for an alcohol-related offense meted out to a senior-to-be like Floyd that could cause him to leave the university without a degree would not be just a mark against the NCAA graduation rate, but a mark against the mission of the school itself to shepherd students through from their freshman year to graduation. The harsher penalties that Fauria and Yeatman received were given to underclassmen who could sit out a year and, if they so chose, still return to Notre Dame for their degrees and life-preparation. Punishing Floyd to the extent that he feels it necessary to leave the school and possibly forego obtaining a college degree would not serve the best interests of Michael or the university.

 

Here's hoping anyway.

 

I think when Fauria was suspended, they knew he would transfer. Hell, I would transfer if I was forced to miss an entire season of my football career over something as ridiculous as streaking. If Floyd left the University without a degree, how would it be any different than Jimmy or Golden bolting for the NFL---still impacts the grad rate. Res Life doesn't give a rat's ass about whether or not Floyd graduates---they only care about preserving the reputation of ND as an academics first, sports second institution. Yeatman was suspended for the season for his DUI, which by the way, was only his second alcohol-related offense. Res Life went so far as to launch an investigation into Jimmy's beer pong photos that surfaced before his junior year. If you've never met one of these dorks, I ask you to picture the kind of kids who were bullied by athletes in high school. They sit up on their pedestal and revel in their ability to make or break a football player's career---especially since they particularly abhor the fact that have an easier time with admissions.

I haven't quite figured out why we are advocating a light sentence in this case. Excellence without disrupting football is, well, not credible at all. Either love the University for what it is or not. Floyd effed up big time. That doesn't cut it at ND and he was MORE than versed in that. Sometimes it hurts to be stupid. Trust me, I know.

 

Let's move on.

 

regarding the bigger point that i was trying to make, i should have been more clear. "i doubt that st. joe county is an different than any other county in indiana" in terms of the typical penalty for a misdemeanor dwi. it's not going to result in jail time, unless there are some extenuating circumstances.

 

I'm clear now and you are correct, dui convictions are pretty constant state wide. Mike won't see any jail time.