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He was listed as #5 on ESPN last night. He was also 1st team ALL AMERICA!!!!

 

That looks SO good for ND!!

 

Does anyone care if his degree is in sociology??????? Name one other student besides Clausen who has gotten as much attention for ND this year. That's right no one! Anyone care what his ACT score is now?

 

POINT-SET-MATCH!!! Advantage Irish

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I read an article in the SB tribune I think where they were interviewing Autry Denson in the article. He mentioned that Tate is an all american and did not get the ball enough. It made me think that when Floyd was injured, Tate lined up at tailback and he was everywhere else, and it worked. When Floyd came back, Tate went back to his strictly receiver role for the most part. Hindsight is 20/20, but we may not have a guy with his skills for a long time to come and Denson is right, Tate probably should of touched the ball at least every other play at various positions.

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I read an article in the SB tribune I think where they were interviewing Autry Denson in the article. He mentioned that Tate is an all american and did not get the ball enough. It made me think that when Floyd was injured, Tate lined up at tailback and he was everywhere else, and it worked. When Floyd came back, Tate went back to his strictly receiver role for the most part. Hindsight is 20/20, but we may not have a guy with his skills for a long time to come and Denson is right, Tate probably should of touched the ball at least every other play at various positions.

 

Tate would have been useless by half time if he was "that" involved.

 

There is a reason why CW only put Tate in to return kicks when we needed a big play.

 

IMHO Tate (outside of getting a reception) should have touched the ball between 5 - 10 times and I think he was close to that in each game.....any more than that and Tate would have killed himself.

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It's great to see Tate's name mentioned when the Heisman is being discussed. He deserves to be invited to New York.

 

It's also sobering when one thinks that ND had two Heisman candidates on its squad this season and only managed to win 6 games. Can any other team in the country boast that it had two Heisman contenders?

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It's great to see Tate's name mentioned when the Heisman is being discussed. He deserves to be invited to New York.

 

It's also sobering when one thinks that ND had two Heisman candidates on its squad this season and only managed to win 6 games. Can any other team in the country boast that it had two Heisman contenders?

 

Well, we had two Heisman candidates on OFFENSE. Offense wasn't our problem all year long. If our Defense was in the 50-75 range in the rankings, I truly think we are undefeated right now, perhaps 1 loss along the way somewhere.

 

We're not that far off which is why the correct coaching hire gets me so pumped up!

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He was listed as #5 on ESPN last night. He was also 1st team ALL AMERICA!!!!

 

That looks SO good for ND!!

 

Does anyone care if his degree is in sociology??????? Name one other student besides Clausen who has gotten as much attention for ND this year. That's right no one! Anyone care what his ACT score is now?

 

POINT-SET-MATCH!!! Advantage Irish

 

not sure why it matters or why it was brought up but tate's act score was way above the necessary requirement.

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One of the guys from the Chicago Tribune - I believe it was Teddy Greenstein - was on ESPN radio last week saying Tate is his #1 choice for the Heisman, and he has a vote in the process. While he is probably a long way from winning it, it's nice to hear about some people giving Tate props for some of the remarkable things he did this season.

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Besides those few drops early in the season, if you watch him, almost every time he touches the ball is a highlight! seriously. I only saw the recap of the stanford game because I had been out of the country on a cruise...he is AMAZING! I think if he were to come back(that is NOT gonna happen IMHO unless he wants to do the baseball thing and try to be the next bo jackson), he would be the top heisman contender. Crist's knee will hopefully heal up quick. it could have been worse with DC, mcl rather than acl is less worrysome to me because of planting vs. lateral movement and such. Either way, if people really look at it, our team lost all of its 6 games by one score or less, and that was because the defense was holier than the pope.

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Great to see Tate is finally getting the respect and accolades that he deserves. Frankly, I was irritated by all the talk about Floyd being the better ball player and saving the team when he came back from his injury. Like Golden was chopped liver. Without restarting that useless argument comparing the two, it is a nice time to consider all of the ways we were blessed to watch Tate: a vertical like Spud Webb, hands like Biletnikoff, elusiveness like Barry Sanders, speed like Usain Bolt, and as tough as Dick Butkus. Perhaps a little exaggeration for effect, but you know what I mean. Actually, I never remember seeing anyone as tough to bring down. He does not have the power that Earl Campbell had, but it always amazed me how two or three guys might stop his forward progress but simply could not bring him to the ground.

 

I saw an interview yesterday where Tate said he would make a decision about going pro very soon. He said he planned on talking to Weis about it today. Personally I'm old school on the subject: I think every student athlete should stay four years. If you're afraid of injury, get a huge insurance policy. College is meant to be four years long, with only the rare exception getting out early. Once you start accepting three as the way of the modern world, you step on to that slippery slope that takes you to two years or less. I really hope Tate comes back for one more year. He is already a Notre Dame great, but being on a solid 11-game winning team could win him a Heisman, and make him one of the twenty or so players who are Notre Dame legends.

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Well, we had two Heisman candidates on OFFENSE. Offense wasn't our problem all year long. If our Defense was in the 50-75 range in the rankings, I truly think we are undefeated right now, perhaps 1 loss along the way somewhere.

 

We're not that far off which is why the correct coaching hire gets me so pumped up!

 

well said but let me switch roles with you further (not gender roles mind you. yes, i know how you think) and say i would be more optimistic if we weren't replacing JC with a guy who's coming off major knee surgery and may not even play spring ball.

 

but, god, i think you are dead-on with saying if we had a top 50 D, we might be talking about our BCS berth right now...crap...

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Great to see Tate is finally getting the respect and accolades that he deserves. Frankly, I was irritated by all the talk about Floyd being the better ball player and saving the team when he came back from his injury. Like Golden was chopped liver. Without restarting that useless argument comparing the two, it is a nice time to consider all of the ways we were blessed to watch Tate: a vertical like Spud Webb, hands like Biletnikoff, elusiveness like Barry Sanders, speed like Usain Bolt, and as tough as Dick Butkus. Perhaps a little exaggeration for effect, but you know what I mean. Actually, I never remember seeing anyone as tough to bring down. He does not have the power that Earl Campbell had, but it always amazed me how two or three guys might stop his forward progress but simply could not bring him to the ground.

 

I saw an interview yesterday where Tate said he would make a decision about going pro very soon. He said he planned on talking to Weis about it today. Personally I'm old school on the subject: I think every student athlete should stay four years. If you're afraid of injury, get a huge insurance policy. College is meant to be four years long, with only the rare exception getting out early. Once you start accepting three as the way of the modern world, you step on to that slippery slope that takes you to two years or less. I really hope Tate comes back for one more year. He is already a Notre Dame great, but being on a solid 11-game winning team could win him a Heisman, and make him one of the twenty or so players who are Notre Dame legends.

 

to be fair, in the first few game,s it was floyd who was the game-breaker, but golden took it to another gear after those first few games (remember the dropsies he had early on, too) and right now, he is the best player in CFB. period. he's on the level of the rocket. he should finish second in the heisman but will not, i'm afraid. the record of your team now carries TOO much weight and the ghost of the paul horning heisman will FOREVER kill any chance *any* ND player might have at winning the heisman without a top ten team ranking. sucks but is true...

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If I had to guess, with the way things work now-a-days, Tate won't even get an invite to NY. My guess would be Tebow, McCoy, Ingram, and Suh.

 

Not thats its right, just how I see it playing out.....

 

I'd replace Suh with Gerhart.

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don't look for Tate to get an invite , this heisman is ESPN to do as they like IMO, the televise most of the games and that leaves the Irish out of the running Tate was all American but heisman , maybe next year if he stays , the first of the season sort of hurt him a wee bit , great player but i think he needs another year to be great, the same with jc , he needs another year to get onto the legend status . , if they go IAM sure that you will See a much improved Dyane and he will put up Clausen type stats . go irish :grin:

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