There are times when great institutions like the University of Notre Dame need to rise above the feeding frenzy fueled by pop media, and fanned by frustrated and angry fans. Now is one of those times for the leadership at ND to remind itself of the core values that ND has always embraced, the basic principles that are embedded in its institutional mission, a mission that explicitly calls for the creation of "... a sense of human solidarity and concern for the common good that will bear fruit as learning becomes service to justice."

 

Our head football coach, Charlie Weis, is a good man - a man who was educated at Notre Dame and was taught the importance of human dignity and service to justice. He lives by those principles in his personal life and in his professional life. Is he perfect? Absolutely not! If any of us were, what else would there be to live for? George F. Will is quoted as having said, "The pursuit of perfection often impedes improvement." I am making a plea to the University's leadership to carefully examine Coach Weis' "entire body of work" using the lens of its institutional core values and principles.

 

To say that it's difficult to be the head football coach at Notre Dame is the understatement of the century! No one knows that reality more that Charlie. I hope that the University does thr right thing and retains Coach Weis, and yes, clear and measurable performance metrics need to be in place as the the football program continues to move forward and improve. However disappointing our won/loss record is this year, neither our players nor Coach Weis are a bunch of "losers," that is for sure.

 

The University's mission statement concludes, "In all dimensions of the University, Notre Dame pursues its objectives through the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ." What would He do???

The University's mission statement concludes, "In all dimensions of the University, Notre Dame pursues its objectives through the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ." What would He do???

 

Well, he's already essentially become Field Goal Jesus, so I think he would be able to understand why Notre Dame football was moving in a different direction.

 

Good, impassioned first post. But it's over. Charlie is done and someone else will come in that will hopefully not only improve the product on the field, but maintain everything the school stands for off of it.

 

But welcome to DD. Look forward to more of your posts.

There are times when great institutions like the University of Notre Dame need to rise above the feeding frenzy fueled by pop media, and fanned by frustrated and angry fans. Now is one of those times for the leadership at ND to remind itself of the core values that ND has always embraced, the basic principles that are embedded in its institutional mission, a mission that explicitly calls for the creation of "... a sense of human solidarity and concern for the common good that will bear fruit as learning becomes service to justice."

 

Our head football coach, Charlie Weis, is a good man - a man who was educated at Notre Dame and was taught the importance of human dignity and service to justice. He lives by those principles in his personal life and in his professional life. Is he perfect? Absolutely not! If any of us were, what else would there be to live for? George F. Will is quoted as having said, "The pursuit of perfection often impedes improvement." I am making a plea to the University's leadership to carefully examine Coach Weis' "entire body of work" using the lens of its institutional core values and principles.

 

To say that it's difficult to be the head football coach at Notre Dame is the understatement of the century! No one knows that reality more that Charlie. I hope that the University does thr right thing and retains Coach Weis, and yes, clear and measurable performance metrics need to be in place as the the football program continues to move forward and improve. However disappointing our won/loss record is this year, neither our players nor Coach Weis are a bunch of "losers," that is for sure.

 

The University's mission statement concludes, "In all dimensions of the University, Notre Dame pursues its objectives through the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ." What would He do???

 

This is a very heartfelt post, and I agree that Weis is a good man and shares that values mentioned in Notre Dame's mission statement. However, I do not think that this is reason enough for him to remain coach. He needs to win and he hasn't done that. If all that is needed to be coach of Notre Dame is to be a good man and share Notre Dame's core values, a priest should be brought in.

Well, he's already essentially become Field Goal Jesus, so I think he would be able to understand why Notre Dame football was moving in a different direction.

 

Good, impassioned first post. But it's over. Charlie is done and someone else will come in that will hopefully not only improve the product on the field, but maintain everything the school stands for off of it.

 

But welcome to DD. Look forward to more of your posts.

 

Lmfao at "field goal jesus"....except lately it's more like "Red zone 3 and out Jesus"

There are times when great institutions like the University of Notre Dame need to rise above the feeding frenzy fueled by pop media, and fanned by frustrated and angry fans. Now is one of those times for the leadership at ND to remind itself of the core values that ND has always embraced, the basic principles that are embedded in its institutional mission, a mission that explicitly calls for the creation of "... a sense of human solidarity and concern for the common good that will bear fruit as learning becomes service to justice."

 

Our head football coach, Charlie Weis, is a good man - a man who was educated at Notre Dame and was taught the importance of human dignity and service to justice. He lives by those principles in his personal life and in his professional life. Is he perfect? Absolutely not! If any of us were, what else would there be to live for? George F. Will is quoted as having said, "The pursuit of perfection often impedes improvement." I am making a plea to the University's leadership to carefully examine Coach Weis' "entire body of work" using the lens of its institutional core values and principles.

 

To say that it's difficult to be the head football coach at Notre Dame is the understatement of the century! No one knows that reality more that Charlie. I hope that the University does thr right thing and retains Coach Weis, and yes, clear and measurable performance metrics need to be in place as the the football program continues to move forward and improve. However disappointing our won/loss record is this year, neither our players nor Coach Weis are a bunch of "losers," that is for sure.

 

The University's mission statement concludes, "In all dimensions of the University, Notre Dame pursues its objectives through the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ." What would He do???

 

excellent post. unfortunately, there needs to be a balance between success on the field and success in delivering the objectives of values, principals and spirituality. in the former, he has failed miserably.............

There are times when great institutions like the University of Notre Dame need to rise above the feeding frenzy fueled by pop media, and fanned by frustrated and angry fans. Now is one of those times for the leadership at ND to remind itself of the core values that ND has always embraced, the basic principles that are embedded in its institutional mission, a mission that explicitly calls for the creation of "... a sense of human solidarity and concern for the common good that will bear fruit as learning becomes service to justice."

 

Our head football coach, Charlie Weis, is a good man - a man who was educated at Notre Dame and was taught the importance of human dignity and service to justice. He lives by those principles in his personal life and in his professional life. Is he perfect? Absolutely not! If any of us were, what else would there be to live for? George F. Will is quoted as having said, "The pursuit of perfection often impedes improvement." I am making a plea to the University's leadership to carefully examine Coach Weis' "entire body of work" using the lens of its institutional core values and principles.

 

To say that it's difficult to be the head football coach at Notre Dame is the understatement of the century! No one knows that reality more that Charlie. I hope that the University does thr right thing and retains Coach Weis, and yes, clear and measurable performance metrics need to be in place as the the football program continues to move forward and improve. However disappointing our won/loss record is this year, neither our players nor Coach Weis are a bunch of "losers," that is for sure.

 

The University's mission statement concludes, "In all dimensions of the University, Notre Dame pursues its objectives through the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ." What would He do???

 

nice drive by flame! *** ****

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Great first post BUProf. Many more please. I cannot but admire what you postedand stand with you shoulder to shoulder even if it meant an anti Weis firing squad.

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The guy made a good first post... dont be a jerk, jerk.

 

BUProf, welcome. i share your sentiments, i want to like the guy. but i also want excellence, we have to let the guy go and move on.

I like Charlie the guy, I think he's a pretty good coach, I just don't think his mentality is right for the college game, this isn't the pros where you can sign a free agent, trade for someone, or fire someone if they aren't performing, I just feel like Charlie's biggest fault during his time at ND has been motivation. Charlie has done a ton of good for ND and we are lucky for that, but I believe his time has come, and wish him the best of luck for the future and thank him for all he has given and done.

There are times when great institutions like the University of Notre Dame need to rise above the feeding frenzy fueled by pop media, and fanned by frustrated and angry fans. Now is one of those times for the leadership at ND to remind itself of the core values that ND has always embraced, the basic principles that are embedded in its institutional mission, a mission that explicitly calls for the creation of "... a sense of human solidarity and concern for the common good that will bear fruit as learning becomes service to justice."

 

Our head football coach, Charlie Weis, is a good man - a man who was educated at Notre Dame and was taught the importance of human dignity and service to justice. He lives by those principles in his personal life and in his professional life. Is he perfect? Absolutely not! If any of us were, what else would there be to live for? George F. Will is quoted as having said, "The pursuit of perfection often impedes improvement." I am making a plea to the University's leadership to carefully examine Coach Weis' "entire body of work" using the lens of its institutional core values and principles.

 

To say that it's difficult to be the head football coach at Notre Dame is the understatement of the century! No one knows that reality more that Charlie. I hope that the University does thr right thing and retains Coach Weis, and yes, clear and measurable performance metrics need to be in place as the the football program continues to move forward and improve. However disappointing our won/loss record is this year, neither our players nor Coach Weis are a bunch of "losers," that is for sure.

 

The University's mission statement concludes, "In all dimensions of the University, Notre Dame pursues its objectives through the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ." What would He do???

 

Perfect. I wish I had the time and skill to write so well. We are likely to lose a great man. We are our own worst enemy.

The very nice post still doesn't make the fact that Charlie has stunk it up for our program go away. We can Sugar Coat it all we want. hell, we can even find new ways to sum up Charlie being a nice guy...but he couldn't even beat USC, not even once! Who has his teams beat...seriously...who???

 

See Ya Charlie...

The guy made a good first post... dont be a jerk, jerk.

 

BUProf, welcome. i share your sentiments, i want to like the guy. but i also want excellence, we have to let the guy go and move on.

 

he lost me at retaining WEIS.. thats just foolish talk.. using his theory we should have kept willingham and fans ripped him a new one on the way out prolly some of these same fans that admire charlie.

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and yes, clear and measurable performance metrics need to be in place as the the football program continues to move forward and improve.

 

After last year's disappointing season, Swarbrick sat down with CW to discuss those very performance metrics and specific areas that need improvement. Those are the very things Swarbrick will review this year to see if the goals he and Charlie set for the program have been met. There is a slight chance that he will be retained if their was improvement in those areas they discussed. I doubt that he will be the HC next year because he simply has not done a very good job. This team with all of the talent CW recruited should have either zero or one loss this year. There are no more excuses left for Charlie. He is not the man for the job.

Not to steal any thunder, it was a very impassioned post, but I'm kind of seeing the situation in a different way. Weis set the standard for himself when he came in the door, 6-5 is not good enough. He never squashed rumors of leaving ND for the NFL in year one, forcing his alma to over-extend itself, way prematurely. An ND guy should know his school will take care of him, especially if it's his dream job.

Jimmy announced ND in Weis-fashion, sporting the rings....only to leave ND with a losing record. Maybe our coach set a bad example in this light. I remember it rubbing many posters here at DD the wrong way with the limo entrance and everything. Not doubting Weis is a fine man, I wish him the best and feel horrible that he couldn't bring the "schematic advantage" he claimed...but if we're talking religion, maybe his calling was his previous duty, he obviously shined in NE and what's wrong with failing at one thing to realize your gift at another. Let the man walk away with his dignity intact, many of his critics have 0% football intellect that this man's resume carries. My hopes are that he will have lots of options and be embraced by ND in years to come the way Faust has. No one can question Weis' love for ND, you can see it in his pressers how torn up he is. No need to kick a man while he's down. For those doing so, I think Charlie might have the last laugh with accomplishments to come. GO IRISH!! Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

nice drive by flame! *** ****

 

thanks for taking the heat of the rest of us idiots you rock, keep it up...

There are times when great institutions like the University of Notre Dame need to rise above the feeding frenzy fueled by pop media, and fanned by frustrated and angry fans. Now is one of those times for the leadership at ND to remind itself of the core values that ND has always embraced, the basic principles that are embedded in its institutional mission, a mission that explicitly calls for the creation of "... a sense of human solidarity and concern for the common good that will bear fruit as learning becomes service to justice."

 

Our head football coach, Charlie Weis, is a good man - a man who was educated at Notre Dame and was taught the importance of human dignity and service to justice. He lives by those principles in his personal life and in his professional life. Is he perfect? Absolutely not! If any of us were, what else would there be to live for? George F. Will is quoted as having said, "The pursuit of perfection often impedes improvement." I am making a plea to the University's leadership to carefully examine Coach Weis' "entire body of work" using the lens of its institutional core values and principles.

 

To say that it's difficult to be the head football coach at Notre Dame is the understatement of the century! No one knows that reality more that Charlie. I hope that the University does thr right thing and retains Coach Weis, and yes, clear and measurable performance metrics need to be in place as the the football program continues to move forward and improve. However disappointing our won/loss record is this year, neither our players nor Coach Weis are a bunch of "losers," that is for sure.

 

The University's mission statement concludes, "In all dimensions of the University, Notre Dame pursues its objectives through the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ." What would He do???

 

Great Post, thanks for sharing!