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This is not a thread discussing whether or not to fire the coach.

 

For the record, most of you know I have been of the belief for over a year now that Charlie Weis is not the man that would lead this program back to a national championship. This was never a judgement on the man himself personally, physically or in any moral way. This never affected my love for Notre Dame. Every game I gave it my all as a fan. I live and die by this team. It is nothing personal against Charlie Weis. It is just a judgment of how the team performs every Saturday, and that the talent collected much greater than what we see performing on the field.

 

Watching the post game interview tonight made it personal. It was a very difficult moment to watch. For all the "arrogant" statements thrown out 5 years ago about 6-5 not being good enough and the swagger he promised the team would show, I saw a man that was humbled.

 

I saw a man who I so badly wanted to succeed. I may have been chirping on this board for a while that time had expired on his contract, but whenever someone outside the ND community questioned him as a human being or even as a coach, I would rush to his defense. The coach at ND is the face of the program, and for 99% of the time Charlie Weis has been here the off-field representation as been something we can be proud of. I liked his NFL pedigree. I liked his offensive style. I liked his swagger. I liked his graduation rate.

 

Charlie, I love you for the coach you almost are.

 

The writing is on the wall. I don't think anyone and I mean anyone had this team going 6-4 through 10 games. The floor has been mopped, the lights have been turned out, and all that's left is for us to pat him on the back as we escort him out the door. Thank you Charlie for your loyalty to the program. Thank you for coming here despite knowing you would have to take us through one of our darkest hours. Thank you for bringing the great players in our locker room. Thank you for representing us well off the field. We wish you and your family the best in your future endeavors.

 

Thank you for making us believe in Notre Dame football again.

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S**t, look at the replay of that fumble by the Pitt offense, Charlie looked like he was going to cry. God love him, just not as a head coach.

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Coach Weis lived his dream as Head Coach of the University of Notre Dame. He made millions of dollars. He is not, I repeat not, dying of cancer. Like many Americans have experienced over the last couple years, he is about to lose a job. He was and will continue to be an alumni, can visit as a special guest anytime he comes back, can find another high paying job in either college or professional football, has enough money to retire and live comfortably for the rest of his life. Don't shed tears for this man: respect the effort he made and the fact that he took a shot. And expect him to do the right thing.

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I think Weis has handled this situation in a very classy way and hes tried his best to take the attention off of his job status. The whole team and Weis especially has been put in an impossible situation. We can say what we want about the result, but this team has had a tremendous amount of fight in them all season and they didn't fold tonight either.

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Wow....

 

I'm glad that our HC is a good guy, but lets not forget that he's set our program back another 5 years. Yes he brought in great recruits, but couldn't even muster a better record than that of TY (yes, its true, look it up!) with those superior recruits.

 

I don't give a flying crap that he's a really good guy, he's failed to produce a team that wants to win more than the other guy....and THAT has set us back

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It's tough on a person when you've never failed at anything but fail at your ONE dream in life... This can't be easy for him, but I know his impact won't end with recruiting, but with helping us find a new coach; because he cares. He'll do everything he can to take care of us. I hope the next coach has his class and not the lack of class that Davie and Willingham had, making excuses for their lack of success and then lashing out.

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Im not trying 2 give Weis a pass just because hes a good guy I was just trying 2 point out that hes handled the situation as best as he could. I dont think its completely fair to say hes set the program back 5 years. Lets be completely fair. The 2007 season was a total disaster but they lost a substantial amount of talent that would have been difficult for any team to overcome. Last year was a pretty nice improvement from 07 and going into this year I think alot of people (including me) expected alot from this team. This has been a really disappointing year and Weis certainly deserves a good amount of blame, but things haven't been all bad since hes taken over.

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Wow....

 

I'm glad that our HC is a good guy, but lets not forget that he's set our program back another 5 years. Yes he brought in great recruits, but couldn't even muster a better record than that of TY (yes, its true, look it up!) with those superior recruits.

 

I don't give a flying crap that he's a really good guy, he's failed to produce a team that wants to win more than the other guy....and THAT has set us back

 

I don't think we're back another 5 years. The fact is this is a freaking turn key football program. He didn't do what he came here to do, and now everyone is in agreement his time is up. Of course his record is no better than Ty or Davie--like CW said: "you are what you are and right now..." you're no better than those who preceded you.

 

My original post was just to merely say that I've wanted him to succeed for 5 years and now the swagger is gone, the man has been totally humbled and for me it is unfortunate and painful to watch.

 

And with that being said I look forward to the next guy and hope we get it right.

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I don't think we're back another 5 years. The fact is this is a freaking turn key football program. He didn't do what he came here to do, and now everyone is in agreement his time is up. Of course his record is no better than Ty or Davie--like CW said: "you are what you are and right now..." you're no better than those who preceded you.

 

My original post was just to merely say that I've wanted him to succeed for 5 years and now the swagger is gone, the man has been totally humbled and for me it is unfortunate and painful to watch.

 

And with that being said I look forward to the next guy and hope we get it right.

 

That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.

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I don't think we're back another 5 years. The fact is this is a freaking turn key football program. He didn't do what he came here to do, and now everyone is in agreement his time is up. Of course his record is no better than Ty or Davie--like CW said: "you are what you are and right now..." you're no better than those who preceded you.

 

My original post was just to merely say that I've wanted him to succeed for 5 years and now the swagger is gone, the man has been totally humbled and for me it is unfortunate and painful to watch.

 

And with that being said I look forward to the next guy and hope we get it right.

 

Agree with what you said except that that I maintain that we ARE 5 years backward...for this reason....if i was a recruit...why the hell would I go to ND? Apparently, even if we have top 10 talent, we still can't beat Navy or anybody else. So why go to ND and learn how to underperform? At least with TY, we knew that we couldn't win because we didn't have the recruits.

 

Yeah CW has been humbled, as have we all I'm sure over the last five years

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Charlie's going to be fine. If he's leaving, he's leaving with well over $20 million in the bank. He, his kids, and even grandkids will never have to work a day in their lives. Not bad. It wouldnt shock me a bit if he's back in the NFL next year as an OC. I also wouldnt be shocked if his agent is quietly making calls right now and probably getting a few as well. There are some pretty crappy offenses in the NFL and Im sure a few are looking at him. People will have fond memories of his time at ND. I know I will because of the way he worked for the players and the Univsersity. Im glad they hired him but its time to take the next step.

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coach weis lived his dream as head coach of the university of notre dame. He made millions of dollars. He is not, i repeat not, dying of cancer. Like many americans have experienced over the last couple years, he is about to lose a job. He was and will continue to be an alumni, can visit as a special guest anytime he comes back, can find another high paying job in either college or professional football, has enough money to retire and live comfortably for the rest of his life. Don't shed tears for this man: Respect the effort he made and the fact that he took a shot. And expect him to do the right thing.

 

excellent post !!!!!!!!!!

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Don't worry about Weis. He never has to work another day in his life, has his family with him and he really is a nice guy. He just isn't a head coach. He will be a very,very rich ex-head coach who will go on the speaking circuit telling people how great it was to be the head coach of Notre Dame......blah, blah, blah........

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My biggest problem with this whole situation is that I absolutely love Weis as a person. I wanted him to succeed and be the JoePa / Bowden for ND.

 

I let my vision be clouded by everything he does Sunday - Friday.....and I let myself ignore the things that happened on Saturdays.

 

Weis is going to be a very successful NFL coach....and I would welcome him with open arms to my NFL team. I just can't accept him as ND's future anymore.

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