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No disrespect to Dayne Crist--we love you and you are our future.

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However, with the game not entirely put away and Jimmy battling with the toe, Coach pulls JC in favor of DC. We all know what happened several minutes later.

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This won't be something that it talked about in the papers or the stat sheets, but I'm glad Charlie is not about style points or racking up Heisman numbers. Credit where credit is due-

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JC would have gotten injured or CW should have put in Sharpley?

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I don't get it.

JC would have gotten injured or CW should have put in Sharpley?

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I don't get it.

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His post is kind of confusing but I think he is saying even though we weren't up by 40 pulling Jimmy was the right move... and even though DC got injured putting him in was the right move... I think

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IMO the game was over when Tate caught the hail mary... that must have been downright depressing for the Cougars

Shush...this board only wants to criticize CW and all that he does. In fact on one thread I believe I read it was CW's fault for not insisting to play on natural grass to prevent this injury...

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Obviously I'm kidding, so please don't let anyone's panties get in a bunch.

I love how you speak for all. Throw it out then retract...throw it out then retract....you must fish a lot. ;)

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Da Coach = omniscient.

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His post is kind of confusing but I think he is saying even though we weren't up by 40 pulling Jimmy was the right move... and even though DC got injured putting him in was the right move... I think

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IMO the game was over when Tate caught the hail mary... that must have been downright depressing for the Cougars

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Thanks for clarifying jedi speak, Polock. I think many coaches would have sat Jimmy maybe for a couple plays or a series but Charlie said unless WSU scored Jimmy was done for the day. It was the right move that few would have made.

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And ya coach believe it or not I can think independently and give credit for good coaching decisions like this just as much as I can criticize!

I agree with you Jedi. Charlie was not looking for syle points or to beat the spread.

It didn't work out but it says a lot for Charlie and will help with the future offense.

the post route to Goodman was a thing of beauty.

Alright, I'm really confused. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON??????? Why is everybody acting like women. Jedi makes a supportive post and he gets jumped on, as if the post was confusing or critical. It was simple - Weis made a good decision to remove Dayne, because that injury could have happened to Jimmy. Coach gets all fired up. Probably because people keep pouncing on him, but Coach, let it go. Then, that is followed up with Don Juan killing Coach. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON??? Am I really missing something here??? This is like leaving a room of well behaved Kindergartners to step into the hall to say hey to a teacher for a sec, returning five seconds later, and finding the class tearing each other apart. You know you missed something, but you just don't know what. I don't understand the pouncing on Coach at all. Who cares if some of his info is off but the rest of it is good. We're here just to throw stuff out to everyone that may or may not be tips. Do the pundits really know what's going on? No. They have the worst probability records in the world and people ACTUALLY, and SADLY, pay for that info. At least you can get it for free, here.

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Either way, that's beside the point. I want clarity on what the hell is going on and why everybody decided to revert to 5 years old. What happened to nice heated debates and objective threads? Hit it hard on one thread, but quit holding grudges to the next thread. Let it go. Everyone brings their own unique element to the board, for the most part. I admit that I'm not infallible to falling into a slump and deviating from this standard; but that's when I step away and try to regain my composure. In reality, that's what everyone needs to do - regain their composure.

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Again, this is a simple thread - Weis made a good decision to pull Clausen. Nothing more. Quit snapping at each other before all of you are put in the corner for a timeout and miss recess. The next step is calling your parents...

Alright, I'm really confused. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON??????? Why is everybody acting like women. Jedi makes a supportive post and he gets jumped on, as if the post was confusing or critical. It was simple - Weis made a good decision to remove Dayne, because that injury could have happened to Jimmy. Coach gets all fired up. Probably because people keep pouncing on him, but Coach, let it go. Then, that is followed up with Don Juan killing Coach. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON??? Am I really missing something here??? This is like leaving a room of well behaved Kindergartners to step into the hall to say hey to a teacher for a sec, returning five seconds later, and finding the class tearing each other apart. You know you missed something, but you just don't know what. I don't understand the pouncing on Coach at all. Who cares if some of his info is off but the rest of it is good. We're here just to throw stuff out to everyone that may or may not be tips. Do the pundits really know what's going on? No. They have the worst probability records in the world and people ACTUALLY, and SADLY, pay for that info. At least you can get it for free, here.

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Either way, that's beside the point. I want clarity on what the hell is going on and why everybody decided to revert to 5 years old. What happened to nice heated debates and objective threads? Hit it hard on one thread, but quit holding grudges to the next thread. Let it go. Everyone brings their own unique element to the board, for the most part. I admit that I'm not infallible to falling into a slump and deviating from this standard; but that's when I step away and try to regain my composure. In reality, that's what everyone needs to do - regain their composure.

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Again, this is a simple thread - Weis made a good decision to pull Clausen. Nothing more. Quit snapping at each other before all of you are put in the corner for a timeout and miss recess. The next step is calling your parents...

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Voice of reason... I agree, CW made a smart move by sitting Clausen.

Voice of reason... I agree, CW made a smart move by sitting Clausen.

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So did I, however I also thru in a joke and it truly ruffled the feathers of some... Must be on your period, get some mydol and cranberry juice and move along

I agree, good call to pull Clausen. I was a little surprised that Golden stayed in as long as he did, but I was excited to watch some of the younger guys get some reps: Riddick, Goodman, Shaq, Deion, Toma, Ragone (older, but still like to see him get reps), Duval (same), OL. McCarthy the Younger, Slaughter, McDonald, Filer, Newman, Hafis etc.

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Thats why we need the WSU games of the world, to get our depth players some minutes out there.

That pass from Dayne to Goodman was sweet. I hope Dayne makes a similar jump the way Jimmy did from his Sophomore to Junior year. I know Dayne hasn't had the same game experience, but maybe the Tulsa's and WMU's of the world will help break him in and give him some confidence. (PS - Clausen, in my opinion, is gone. There are way too many factors that will push him out the door, including Bradford/Crist injuries, Jimmy's performance, Rookie Salary Cap, lack of QBs coming out. If Crist, for some reason, struggles or gets hurt, I could see Rees stepping in, though I think Hendrix maybe the future after Crist.)

That pass from Dayne to Goodman was sweet. I hope Dayne makes a similar jump the way Jimmy did from his Sophomore to Junior year. I know Dayne hasn't had the same game experience, but maybe the Tulsa's and WMU's of the world will help break him in and give him some confidence. (PS - Clausen, in my opinion, is gone. There are way too many factors that will push him out the door, including Bradford/Crist injuries, Jimmy's performance, Rookie Salary Cap, lack of QBs coming out. If Crist, for some reason, struggles or gets hurt, I could see Rees stepping in, though I think Hendrix maybe the future after Crist.)

I'm not saying it should or will happen, but this may be an opportunity to exercise the new ND stance on JUCOs to bring in a guy to add some experienced depth. Hopefully we're able to fill out the class with freshmen, but it may not be out of the question. Or throw Maust back there, he threw a rocket on that fake field goal:llama:

#1 Again please, please do not jump on a guy for a post. Jump on the post and stay in that post and not please, please hijack a post off topic.

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#2 It was smart to remove Jimmy and insert Dayne. That's what a back up's job is for last time I heard.

Well let me take this in a different direction...say instead of Michigan coming back and beating us, we beat them...and say we put it together against SC much better then we did and beat them by a touchdown...Hey!....UNDEFEATED and we finish the season that way.

Now we look at the BCS...there is a real good chance of 2 teams going undefeated (Florida/Alabama and Texas) and keeping us out of of the championship game. I think we pass the rest of the undefeateds, but that is not necessarily a given. Anyway looking at this game again and style points (BCS points)...do you still think CW sits Jimmy and plays it out the same way?...and if not, how much more important is getting to the BCS championship versus getting into the final 14 and getting a BCS bid? Isn't it really the same reasoning just a different level of importance? What would you do as a coach?

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P.S. I don't know what CW would do in these hypotheticals...just food for thought...

And don't even get me started on the BCS becoming a championship of the SEC/Big 12 winner. It's seems to me a logical evolution of the system we have. If most teams don't have a shot of getting in the finals then the system for them is just to determine what bowl they get in and more importantly how much money they can make for participating.

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