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this board is unbelievable.

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how can you guys still be optimistic about charlie weis. we have made up no ground from 2005. HOw can you guys be happy about losing a close game? yea that was good 5 years ago but u can't settle for a close win.

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yes the team played great, yes they almost took it into overtime, and YES this USC team was not that good, definitely not as good as 2005, and they still owned our defense.

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i can't believe that we havent beaten USC in 8 years....

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CW is never gonna do it, next year USC will just be even better and better and better.

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im done with charlie i really am.

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p.s. our defense blows and will always blow against USC....8 straight years giving up 34 points or more to USC....

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some things will never change....

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this board is unbelievable.

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how can you guys still be optimistic about charlie weis. we have made up no ground from 2005. HOw can you guys be happy about losing a close game? yea that was good 5 years ago but u can't settle for a close win.

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yes the team played great, yes they almost took it into overtime, and YES this USC team was not that good, definitely not as good as 2005, and they still owned our defense.

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i can't believe that we havent beaten USC in 8 years....

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CW is never gonna do it, next year USC will just be even better and better and better.

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im done with charlie i really am.

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p.s. our defense blows and will always blow against USC....8 straight years giving up 34 points or more to USC....

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some things will never change....

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Getting that off your chest, I hope you feel better. Please stop using "we", it doesn't ring true one bit and isn't fooling anyone. Perhaps you should stick w/ Pitt, now there's a coach:)

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Getting that off your chest, I hope you feel better. Please stop using "we", it doesn't ring true one bit and isn't fooling anyone. Perhaps you should stick w/ Pitt, now there's a coach:)

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last time i checked pitt is number 20..... that was an extremely intelligent statement though ;)

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Getting that off your chest, I hope you feel better. Please stop using "we", it doesn't ring true one bit and isn't fooling anyone. Perhaps you should stick w/ Pitt, now there's a coach:)

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by the way everyone on this board uses "we"

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i have just as much the right to do it as anyone else i have been to just as many games and know just as many players and know just as many recruits and care about this team just as much as everyone else on this board. if i didnt love this team so much i wouldnt give a shit who the coach is or what was going on. i want to see this team succeed more than anyone else and IMO i dont think that will happen with charlie

I was off the Weis train but I might be back on if the good recruiting news keeps up.

What were you expecting ND to do this year? 12-0, 11-1? If so, your "unbelievable".

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Don't judge others for seeing signs of Charlie taking a program that was in the crapper and bringing in top flight guys again and building the program back up.

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7 games ago ND lost got demolished by SC. This year ND's 1 second from taking it to OT and possibly winning. How can you say they arn't making strides?

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Everyone with half a brain said at best this team would be 10-2. If you were expecting something else your expectations were way too high don't blame Weis for that.....

Yesterday's game has just as much to do with the developement and maturity of this team. Last year they would've been beaten before getting on the field but this year they belive in themselves. They're going to continue to prove to themselve's that they're damn good. They refers to the players donning Blue and Gold this year. I don't think anyone's happy with the loss, at least they shouldn't be. But as I said earlier today, it could've been worse, like 38-3 or 38-0. It wasn't. I'm happy because the team fought even through the LAST SECOND.

last time i checked pitt is number 20..... that was an extremely intelligent statement though ;)

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Last time I checked, they played nobody in the Big East... To say we haven't come a long way is pretty uninciteful. We've just gotten back to where we were, and we're only getting better. We've come a long way since Ty hosed us. We're almost there. We are a Defensive Line away from being really really good. Look at the difference in the OL compared to the last two years. You didn't really think our rushing game could be as good as it is after the past two years, did you? I'm curious to see if our DL turns a corner next year. If they do, we'll be nasty. Our offense is fantastic, and I wouldn't trade. Getting rid of CW at this moment would be complete foolishness. If the second half of the season goes poorly, that can change. At the moment, we are fine. Quit crying. I'm sure there's a hilltopper who will let you use a shoulder.

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Last time I checked, they played nobody in the Big East... To say we haven't come a long way is pretty uninciteful. We've just gotten back to where we were, and we're only getting better. We've come a long way since Ty hosed us. We're almost there. We are a Defensive Line away from being really really good. Look at the difference in the OL compared to the last two years. You didn't really think our rushing game could be as good as it is after the past two years, did you? I'm curious to see if our DL turns a corner next year. If they do, we'll be nasty. Our offense is fantastic, and I wouldn't trade. Getting rid of CW at this moment would be complete foolishness. If the second half of the season goes poorly, that can change. At the moment, we are fine. Quit crying. I'm sure there's a hilltopper who will let you use a shoulder.

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who cares who they play, they are ranked higher than us, shit i would trade an easy schedule and be in the top 20 then where we are right now.

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the only thing that i dont like is that every player on the team is a weis recruit....we shouldnt still be rebuilding.... whatever.

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hahaha i love the hilltopper comment by the way :grin: i didnt think anyone here knew who the hilltoppers were!

the only thing that i dont like is that every player on the team is a weis recruit....we shouldnt still be rebuilding.... whatever.

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I'm not the biggest Weis fan in the world, but lets be fair, CW's first two classes were, for the most part, "body" classes. Sure he got some great players. but what he really needed was bodies to fill out a roster. When you have to do that, you have to lower the "bar" on which kids you would normally offer - so of course we aren't going to have as much talent as USC yet.

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Hell, thanks to the previous "staff", it took two recruiting classes just to have enough OL to have two complete units for the Blue/Gold game.....

I'm not the biggest Weis fan in the world, but lets be fair, CW's first two classes were, for the most part, "body" classes. Sure he got some great players. but what he really needed was bodies to fill out a roster. When you have to do that, you have to lower the "bar" on which kids you would normally offer - so of course we aren't going to have as much talent as USC yet.

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Hell, thanks to the previous "staff", it took two recruiting classes just to have enough OL to have two complete units for the Blue/Gold game.....

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+1.............

I'm not the biggest Weis fan in the world, but lets be fair, CW's first two classes were, for the most part, "body" classes. Sure he got some great players. but what he really needed was bodies to fill out a roster. When you have to do that, you have to lower the "bar" on which kids you would normally offer - so of course we aren't going to have as much talent as USC yet.

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Hell, thanks to the previous "staff", it took two recruiting classes just to have enough OL to have two complete units for the Blue/Gold game.....

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+2........

last time i checked pitt is number 20..... that was an extremely intelligent statement though ;)

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Then get off the bandwagon and don't come back... how about that for an alternative.

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There are no atheists in foxholes...

I'm not trying to rile anyone up, I'm really not, but it has always been my opinion that five years is a good, full period for a college coach to put his stamp on a program after taking over. Obviously, others don't feel that Coach Weis has had sufficient time to do what he will ultimately do with the team, so I would just like to ask: How many years do you feel are required before, once and for all, Coach Weis can be judged on the success of the program, with no lingering effects from previous staffs, no extenuating circumstances, just be accountable for the product on the field? If he returns for a 6th year, would that year be the true measure of his performance, or would a 7th be required? An 8th? Please don't snap my head off, I'm only asking.

I'm not trying to rile anyone up, I'm really not, but it has always been my opinion that five years is a good, full period for a college coach to put his stamp on a program after taking over. Obviously, others don't feel that Coach Weis has had sufficient time to do what he will ultimately do with the team, so I would just like to ask: How many years do you feel are required before, once and for all, Coach Weis can be judged on the success of the program, with no lingering effects from previous staffs, no extenuating circumstances, just be accountable for the product on the field? If he returns for a 6th year, would that year be the true measure of his performance, or would a 7th be required? An 8th? Please don't snap my head off, I'm only asking.

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So if he goes 10-2 this year, you still say fire him ? I'm not sure what you getting at - sure if he finishes 6-6 can him....but most people thought we would be around 10-2 this year, and Weis still has a chance to do that.

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Its a little early to talk about firing a coach I guess is what I'm getting at......

This BC game has now become enormous.

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