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11 and 1 would have been a sure thing no doubt--- but because this loss was so close-- IMO we can still recover enough to get a BCS spot---Of course we cannot lose another game--- which is demanding but certainly not impossible by any means----- assuming we get the last six---IMO we will break back into the top 25 at 6-2----from there on its a week to week BCS watch--- at 8-2 i think we can get very near the 15 spot-- given our two losses were very close -- to good teams-- and the rest of our opponents our doing better then expected---- at 10 -2 i feel real confident we can get at least to the 14 spot and maybe the 12 spot--- which i belive opens the door for us------

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clearly its not certain-- it depends somewhat on how games, other games play out-- BUT if we can run the table---i think we have a much better then 50/50 chance of getting a BCS birth---

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It doesnt accomplish much to flail around and whine--- there are STILL some very good outcomes available for this exciting team-- so lets reset our goals-- actually they dont even need to be reset--- a 10-2 record and a BCS birth has always been the most achievable albeit difficult goal----- and we STILL have 6 games to get it !--- so dont despair -there is still a very happy ending possible-- lets just win these last 6---- aloha go irish!

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...i'm starting to think this is all schtick...

Kirk Herbie seemes to think it was a "good loss" for us if there is such a thing. He thinks if we win out chances are very likely for a BCS bowl

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yep, If we had been blown out-- its a different story-- yes we didnt win--- but this does give us a great chance for the BCS at 10-2-- if we can get there-- with floyd returning and given our last 6 games-- looks like a real good shot at 10-2 to me!

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And trulife i dont get you-- you think my optimism is shtick--lol-- that doesnt even make sense-- you have some post that says if jimmy comes back we are NC contenders next year--- what shtick is that??-- i guess when you deem optimism appopriate its all fine-- however i offer shtick-- lol--try and keep your personal grudges under control my friend!

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Aloha GO IRISH!

...its schtick because its tired and predictable, you call it optimism when in reality its merely delusion, it's almost as though you cannot comprehend anything that paints ND in a negative light. Guess what, if people that actually graduated from the school can be critical of the program, so can you...

Well... With Kansas and Nebraska losing in the fashion that they did there may very well be a chance that we stay at 25... I would definately say we played well enough tonight to be considered the 25th ranked team in the nation

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Even if we fall out a couple spots-- the fact is there that we earned some respect-- grudging as it may be & damn disappointing conselation prize too-- but nonetheless--- if we run the table-- we will most likely rise into the top 15 with only two (QUALITY LOSSES)--if there is such a thing-lol--that does make BCS still a real possiblity----aloha- go irish

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TRULIFE-- your post makes you sound like an ass--- you predict national championships in 2010 from a team you give up on, and cant stomach any praise for, and call my attempt to bring up the VERY REAL POSSIBLITY FOR A BCS BID THIS YEAR DELUSIONAL---- that is just idiotic-- you insult me because you have little self control---personally i find your uprovoked insults childish and tedious--- grow up little man!--- --- and yes i am a proud alumni who finds your lowbrow posts completely unworthy of an ND EDUCATION or an ND CHARACTER!

Kinda off topic here but why do you post like--- this--- hawaii---?

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Its just my personal style whippet-- dont like to be conventional-- its suppose to catch your attention-- which apparently it did--Aloha GO IRISH!

this is what i was thinking tonight. ND could still realistically win out and be 10-2. its not like ND has some really tough games ahead. it seems like some are throwing in the towel and saying the season is over.. BS!!

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couple breaks here and there in the Michigan/USC games and ND could actually be undefeated.

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there are certainly areas that need some improvement, but lots of football left to be played

I am sorry... You guys are out of your minds. There is no way ND contends for BCS. Everyone pollster firmly believes that we can't beat a good team and we won't be playing one for some time to prove otherwise. It will take three more wins before ND cracks the top 25 again. By then, the top 12 will be pretty locked up.

The boys showed big time heart today !!!!!! I want nothing to do with a BCS game though..... Hawaii please come clean, I hate that you are wrong on soooooo many level's but just admit what ND is.... I am glad to have Lou Holtz's son posting but it is getting old....

this is what i was thinking tonight. ND could still realistically win out and be 10-2. its not like ND has some really tough games ahead. it seems like some are throwing in the towel and saying the season is over.. BS!!

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couple breaks here and there in the Michigan/USC games and ND could actually be undefeated.

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there are certainly areas that need some improvement, but lots of football left to be played

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Agree, BC, PITT, and Stanford will determine the outcome of this season, the other three games shouldnt be close. Win these games, go 10-2 and the irish will return to a BCS bowl and charlie will be back next year win lose or draw no discussion. Also, if this does happen unlike 2006 i think we have a chance to be competitive and even win that bowl game. I know this may get some laughs and no im not drunk, but outside of Florida, Bama, and maybe Texas i dont think anyone is "elite". USC could very well be the 4th best team in the nation right now and we just played them to the end. Is there anyone in that top ten (excluding those 3) that you could look at and say we would def lose 41-14 like LSU in 06?

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(Just to prove im not completely wasted I still stand by that although i believe the above scenario could happen it would also not shock me if charlie manages to lose 1 or more of the above mentioned games and gets the gate)

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Agree, BC, PITT, and Stanford will determine the outcome of this season, the other three games shouldnt be close. Win these games, go 10-2 and the irish will return to a BCS bowl and charlie will be back next year win lose or draw no discussion. Also, if this does happen unlike 2006 i think we have a chance to be competitive and even win that bowl game. I know this may get some laughs and no im not drunk, but outside of Florida, Bama, and maybe Texas i dont think anyone is "elite". USC could very well be the 4th best team in the nation right now and we just played them to the end. Is there anyone in that top ten (excluding those 3) that you could look at and say we would def lose 41-14 like LSU in 06?

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(Just to prove im not completely wasted I still stand by that although i believe the above scenario could happen it would also not shock me if charlie manages to lose 1 or more of the above mentioned games and gets the gate)

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We would definitely have to score 40+ points to beat Cincinnati.

We would definitely have to score 40+ points to beat Cincinnati.

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Well thats because they have a better coach. ;) That should ruffle a few feathers:grin:

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I agree they would score on us but we could score 40 on them especially w floyd back as he should be for the bowl game. Their d wouldnt be nearly as good as as USC's and with floyd we wouldve put 30+ on them.

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