well after devoting the first half of their show to effusive praise for Tebow- McCoy-Bradford (mostly desrved i accept)---- but then the love fest for the irish comes to a screaching BSPN halt--LOL--- 9 and 3-- 8 and 4-- from todays BOZOS---pretty much contradicting the first three days of analysis--- coldest was the critique-- or should i say hatchet job on jimmy---- jimmy has weak arm strength--- dont expect him to throw the ball 40 yards downfield???? ( that comment pretty much invalidated the whole assesment IMO- too weak an arm to sling it 40 yards with authority--wow--have they ever looked at any tape on him??)-- anyhow it got worse-- not the kind of QB that can lead a team or elevate a team-- frightened and formless in the pocket-- very poor footwork-- just not very good i guess---the only thing they could find positive to say about jimmy is that HE"S TALL__LOL

 

i found it so brutal a critique-- its obvious that clausen is very much disliked-- and is sitting right next to charlie to be the whipping boy for any flaws---

 

Jimmy apparently has alot to prove --i guess--- monday and tueday he's off to the NFL after the year-- Today he's lucky to even have a job as a QB for a division 1 school----

 

i guess we had to expect ESPN to ventilate at some point-- but it seems jimmy really takes a lickin---- LUCKY FOR US HE KEEPS ON TICKIN!!----

 

IMO 2009 jimmy clausen-- 35 TDs--8 picks-- we'll see whose got this one right!!

didnt see it but i agree about his pocket presence up to this point. I agree with you that he'll probably throw 30 TD's. But I think he'll throw double digit picks too

Thanks for the update Hawaii. I missed the show and "show" I suppose it is. They need to say something negative towards ND tyo keep the hits coming. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the editorial conferences on what the talking heads will say on the air.

Hawaii, no offense, but is ESPN hammering Jimmy something to be excited about? (see: exclamation points in the title)

 

On another note, I don't think Jimmy has mastered some of the fundamentals of looking receivers off and not staring down his targets. We'll see, but he did that every game last year. It's frustrating to watch a quarterback who can't figure it out...

Have they fired Cunningham yet? Or perhaps led him to the guillotine? I saw couple of the shows earlier in the week, and it was the first reasoned analysis of ND since the last time Lou Holtz predicted us to beat USC (kidding).

 

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming- talking about ND on the show to pump ratings, then talking out of our a$$es because we don't know what we're talking about.

 

Such as Luginbill (I think) saying one of the two areas we needed to recruit to get amongst the elite again (one being correct- DL), was QB. Umm.. Luginbill.. you idiot. You had Jimmy as the #1 QB (9th overall), and Crist #2 QB (22nd overall).

 

Granted I am an unabashed believer in Jimmy, but I think it's crazy to have seen the glimpses of his talent and not at least say he can maybe bring it all together. Not just toss him out the door after two years, the first one spent in a warzone.

Exclamation points are not limited to showing just excitment-- they are good for any strong emotion-- in this case- for me-- it was shock!-- lol-- i grant that jimmy is NOT the polished veteran we all hope to see this year--- but to say his arm is so weak dont expect to see him throw it down the field 40 yards like colt mc coy or tim tebow--- is just mean spirited HOGWASH--- jimmy throws one of the sweetest long passes i have ever seen in a college QB-- and his deep out is zipped like a bullet even if he throws off the back foot---

 

i guess after listening to the endless diminishment of brady quinns skills-- to the point where it drove him down in the draft-- IMO only becuase he was an ND QB__ and they liked brady ( whats not to like)-- to listen to the hatchet job on every skill for jimmy that was tortured- forced- and just plain STUPID! exlcamtion point--LOL---was just a pisser

 

Who was a better looking true sophmore QB last year-- virtually noone--

 

the idea that jimmy cant lead a team- has a weak arm-- and mechanics that are from hunger-- are IMO uncalled for insults to a young man that although inconsistent granted-- threw too many picks granted--needs to step up in the pocket granted- but was also spectacular with his arm and accuracy on lots of occassions

 

Jimmy will get the last laugh here-- laughing all the way to the bank - and the BCS- aloha

I was watching that and just laughed, basically he said jimmy is a second rate qb with no potential to be elite, what an ass clown. Anyways, the only analysis that will matter is when they are previewing our bowl game this year......our BCS bowl game that is.

<TI> Its Motivation! </TI>

 

All this is just gonna make it that much better when Jimmy proves everyone wrong

Winning shuts everyone up. Not winning doesn't give you a dog in the media fight. Which one will we get this year? (Hawaii...I already know your opinion;))

I agreed with his lack of pocket presence...but for them to bash his arm strength is just absurd. I have yet to see a QB who can throw a quick out to the right when standing on the left hash mark with such velocity and precision as Jimmy. Nor have I seen a QB like Jimmy who can sling is 55+ yards and still have spot on accuracy.

Jimmy allegedly has a reputation of being a little cocky party animal. Weak arm strength? Come on! Let's see those little douchebags mentioned place a ball like Clausen. Anyone remember outside the lines when Jimmy's QB coach said he would take Jimmy over any college player if he were an NFL GM? Jimmy hasn't mtured as fast as I would like him to but he has this offense down now and I really look for him to have 4-5 400 plus yard passing games this year. I just hope that CW doesn't pull the plug on running up the score on people. We have to win with style to climb this year.

didnt see it but i agree about his pocket presence up to this point. I agree with you that he'll probably throw 30 TD's. But I think he'll throw double digit picks too

 

so, let's see that could be 30 tds and 10 picks? i'm fine with that. what would be your problem with that, exactly?

Winning shuts everyone up. Not winning doesn't give you a dog in the media fight. Which one will we get this year? (Hawaii...I already know your opinion;))

 

oh yeah, cuz when ND was winning we had nothing but adoration from the media! puhleeze...they'll just try and tear us down if we win a NC like they did with lou, etc. the days of ND being respected and lauded nationally are over, IMO.

Edited May 16, 200915 yr by BlackIrish42

WOW... I just watched it. What a joke? Clausen has tons to prove but to say he doesn't have any of the tools to be an elite QB is ridiculous. No arm.... REALLY? There were MANY moments that I was surprised by his arm strength and he has great touch.

 

Bradford, Tebow, McCoy... sure, they are guys who played well very early. But does this guy know anything. If a kid isn't competing for a Heismen by his sophomore year, then he is nothing? Give Clausen three NFL OL. I thought these guys were dumb. And EVERY time they brought up a flaw in Clausen, they just show a clip of him getting sacked. I am very confident in Clausen next season. Can't wait for the season to start

Is there a link to watch this?

 

I am very curious about their arguement.

 

He compares favorably to Quinn in his sophomore season.

 

comp % JC - 60.9% BQ - 54.1%

yrds JC - 3172 BQ - 2586

TD JC - 25 BQ - 17

INT JC - 17 BQ - 10

Rating JC - 132.5 BQ - 125.9

 

Even Tebow (who I think is a hell of a QB) improved from his sophomore to Junior season. In the bowl game in 2007, Michigan basically kept Tebow from running and throwing those short passes. They forced him to be a drop back passer and they were able to beat Florida. 2008 opponents were not able to do that.

 

I don't know how anyone in their right mind can really believe Clausen won't improve from one year to the next. Even only a small improvement would make his stats comparable to Quinn's Junior Year.

 

My main complaint about Clausen would be the interceptions. He cost us several games last year and the spring game was not a happy indication of things to come. A better running game and another year's worth of improvement from the line would help Clausen with the interceptions.

Even I will admit the kid has a great arm...