"Forgive me Father, for I have sinned"

 

I went to another (less informative site, *cough nation-something *cough) and saw how they were talking about Charlie should "be the Head Coach and stay on the sideline", "It would be embarrassing for our Head Coach to be up in the booth" yada yada,,,,,

 

Well, here's my .05 cents.

 

Ok, first of all, I already know that he has called plays from the sideline with the Patriots. We are not the New England Patriots! What is lost on the people that point that fact out is that most of his playcalling with the Pats were from the birds nest.

 

Can we all agree that one of CW's strengths is playcalling? I think we can. Up in the booth, there are less distractions than on the sideline. ALL he has to think about is the next play and how it plays out in one on one matchups. There's no arguing with refs, no need to talk players up, no moving from end to end, no worries about weather, players hitting him, JUST the next play.

 

Let's be honest, Charlie is not the best motivator. That's just how it is. He doesn't relate to younger emotions that motivates a player to reach down in the midst of combat to perform higher than his natural talent. It's just how it is and it's not a knock on him or anything. Corwin and the younger coaches have that talent and should be taken advantage of to the fullest. CW is not Lou and shouldn't be expected to be. Truth be told, Lou wasn't much of a "defensive" guy. That's why he had Bob Davie. And do not tell me that Davie wasn't a great DC! Defenses win Championships and Bob was our DC and we had a great defense!

 

Charlie himself said that being up in the booth is a "great advantage"! Hey! Straight from his lips, not mine. "Night and Day" I believe was another quote. Someone said, try playing a chess match looking at board level, then try looking from above. Well, that would certainly be a huge difference. Charlie is a professional coach, so he would see the LB's moving in or out. He could see the gaps in lines. He can see the intricacies of how the defensive players leaning or looking (helmet movement). It truly does make a difference. My point here is that as, now, he's also the official OC. The fact that he, himself, says that being in the booth DOES give an advantage, then why the hell would he decide to be any other place? So, the world can see that he's the "Head Coach"? Who gives a rats behind where the Head Coach coaches? As long as we're winning! Also the fact that he would be closer to God doesn't hurt either. LOL!!

 

Lastly, and I believe is more an excuse than an actual reason, his health. We all know his knees are not good and it doesn't hurt to have at least one season off the legs.

 

Look, Charlie is and always has been an OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR at heart and a very successful one. He can feel comfortable in the fact that for 353 days out of the year, he is the Head Coach of The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame, but for 4 hours x 12 Saturdays in the fall, he's the Offensive Coordinator of the most successful offense in College Football!

 

Championships take talent, skill, preparation and a lot of luck!

 

Any and every advantage should be exploited and Charlie Weis, himself, has said that being up in the booth IS an advantage. I just hope he takes his own words to heart. It just may cost him his job.

 

GO IRISH!

In New England, he had someone telling him what was going on in the field. If he doesnt have that here, a person in the booth he can trust to know what the defense is thinking, than its difficult for him to call the plays.

 

Imagine playing a game of chess blindfolded with a small child telling you what the board looks like. Thats what its like being a coordinator on the field without someone experienced who you trust in the booth.

In our situation, the roles are reversed. Weis' blindspot will be the conditions on the field, player morale, things of that nature. Thats where Ianello comes in. He was promoted to offensive assistant to be Charlies eyes and ears on the field.

Agree Ray!!

my views on this subject are quite strong and i've made them well known since the hawaii bowl ended--- but i will make this point-- the tone of articles on premium sites- rivals- scout- and B&G specifically, have been very receptive to charlie going to the box---i think the more threads that make a strong case for this at the grass roots-- the more written articles will treat it favorably as well----why is this important?-- because IMO the only thing holding charlie back from doing this -- is he may be a little unsure of the reaction-- your point about the other sites narrow view a case in point!--I FULLY EXPECT CHARLIE TO BE IN THE BOX---and i think it is the one change that will close to guarantee an exceptional season-- the more encouragment he gets from the fan base-- the more the parochial press and by fall practice the national press will treat it as a positive change!------so lets keep it up-- other coaches will be a little scared about charlie in the box and they should be!!

The way CW set up his coaching staff foreshadows him coaching from the box. He knows it's the right thing to do for his team at this point and time. But he also knows that it really takes him away from the game atmosphere. I can definitely see where he is torn. I think, for this year anyway, he stays up in the box.

People keep using the Hawaii Bowl as an example of why CW should be in the box. People forget that JC and Co. actually played the best game of their life and the result of the performance had very little to do with who was calling plays and from where. I could have been calling plays from my couch and ND would have put up similar numbers. It is not fair of us to make this our reason for forcing CW into the box.

 

CW may be better off in the box. He said himself that he can see the field better. He was able to see everything the defense was trying to do, he was able to see where we were making mistakes, and he was able to see what was working well.

 

Being in the box did have some negatives though. Mainly, it removes CW from the game atmosphere, and makes it MUCH harder for him to talk to his players and coaches. He also loses the ability to yell at the refs. There is nothing about coaching upstairs that says Head Coach.

 

If this is indeed the route we are going to go, then CW is our Head Coach by title only, and Brown would be our head coach in reality.

People keep using the Hawaii Bowl as an example of why CW should be in the box. People forget that JC and Co. actually played the best game of their life and the result of the performance had very little to do with who was calling plays and from where. I could have been calling plays from my couch and ND would have put up similar numbers. It is not fair of us to make this our reason for forcing CW into the box.

 

CW may be better off in the box. He said himself that he can see the field better. He was able to see everything the defense was trying to do, he was able to see where we were making mistakes, and he was able to see what was working well.

 

Being in the box did have some negatives though. Mainly, it removes CW from the game atmosphere, and makes it MUCH harder for him to talk to his players and coaches. He also loses the ability to yell at the refs. There is nothing about coaching upstairs that says Head Coach.

 

If this is indeed the route we are going to go, then CW is our Head Coach by title only, and Brown would be our head coach in reality.

 

While I agree with some of your reasons being a Head Coach should be on the field, during game time, CW's main job will be as OC and the OC's best and most advantageous spot is up in the booth.

 

Also, I doubt very much that anything on a message board will "force" Charlie to do anything.

 

Lastly, my original post mentioned nothing about the Hawaii Bowl.

 

If this post sounds argumentative, it is not intended that way. Just pointing out the original posts facts.

For those that say it's an embarrassment for CW to be in the box, I ask you this: isn't it more embarrassing losing 6 games a year? If it can help us win a couple games that we otherwise wouldn't have, than yes please. I would love to see CW sit up there and pick Carroll's defense apart next year. Naming Corwin Associate Head Coach is quite telling to me...

Which is more important?

 

Having a guy up in the box that knows EXACTLY what a defense is trying to do, and can call the right plays accordingly, while having some other guy harp on the refs and rally the team?

 

Or having no offensive eye in the sky, reacting later to what plays are being called, and having the HC harp on refs and rally the team?

 

I get what you're saying, but I'd rather have the ace in the hole play caller rather than Charlie cursing out his players and the refs. I don't think his authority would be that in question.

I was not pointing fingers at you about the Hawaii bowl. I was just pointing fingers in general.

 

The only reason I am against him going to the box at all is because head coaches do not coach from the box. Their job pretty much requires them to be on the field. Not being on the sidelines effectively makes him nothing more than our OC with Brown taking over HC duties. I do not view this as a negative, but I can see the media eating this up (and opposing coaches using this as an angel in recruiting). ...but again, this might not be a bad thing. CW is an amazing OC, and Brown has shown that he has what it takes to be a HC. We could actually benefit (in recruiting) by having CW being our OC and QB coach while Brown is our HC and assistant DC to Tenuta.

Which is more important?

 

Having a guy up in the box that knows EXACTLY what a defense is trying to do, and can call the right plays accordingly, while having some other guy harp on the refs and rally the team?

 

Or having no offensive eye in the sky, reacting later to what plays are being called, and having the HC harp on refs and rally the team?

 

I get what you're saying, but I'd rather have the ace in the hole play caller rather than Charlie cursing out his players and the refs. I don't think his authority would be that in question.

 

If people are worried about having someone roam the sideline and work the refs, I walk on and do it just for shits and giggles.

 

I agree with Calves....

If people are worried about having someone roam the sideline and work the refs, I walk on and do it just for shits and giggles.

 

I agree with Calves....

 

+1...............

 

This board's desire for 10 characters in a post drives me nuts. I should be able to say +1 without going on my period...

If you listen to Charlie and other coaches around the country they will tell you that over 90% of their coaching is done before Sarturday. Charlies influence and power as head coach doesnt mean he has to be on the sidelines on Saturdays. It is Sunday thru Friday when Charlie does much of his head coaching duties. I don't think for one second anyone on that team or coaching staff has any question as to who the head coach is. Screw the media they are all bull shit artists who will always try to make us look bad. If it means more wins it is the best possible idea. As a head coach he sets up every thing during the week and for 4 hours on saturday he sits in the booth as an OC. Sounds great to me. I really dont care either way, as long as we are winning. GO IRISH!

i thought, wrongly, it appears, that there would be no way in the world CW would coach from the box. but obviously his comments from the the recent presser show that it a real possibility. i'm for whatever works, btw...

CW can be the next "Harry Caray"!! He can lead the fans in singing the Irish Fight song at half time from the booth....