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Possible Transfers from the incredibly talented '08 class?


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This isn't a rumor, I'm merely asking if you guys see any possible attrition out of this class even though they were ranked #1...I mean, we're anticipating an even more monster class for 2010...what do you guys think?

 

Here's a list in case people forgot:

 

Kapron Lewis Moore DE 4-star

Deion Walker WR 5-star (that's right, he's a damn 5-star)

Trevor Robinson OG 4-star

Jonas Gray RB 4-star

Michael Floyd WR 5-star

Steve Filer LB 4-star

Dan McCarthy S 4-star

Ethan Johnson DE 5-star

Jamoris Slaughter S 4-star

Robert Blanton CD 4-star

Brandon Newman DT 4-star

Lane Clelland OG 4-star

Hafis Williams DT 3-star

Joseph Fauria TE 4-star

Darius Flemming LB/DE 4-star

Dayne Crist QB 5-star

Anthony Mcdonald LB 4-star

David Posluszny LB 3-star

Kyle Rudolph TE 5-star

Sean Cwyner DT 4-star

John Goodman WR 4-star

Braxton Cave C 4-star

Mike Golic OG 3-star

 

I think we might see some attrition at the LB position purely because of all the talent at LB in this class, in '09 (Manti Te'o), and '10 (Chris Martin)

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Why even bring this up? I really don't see the need to discuss guys leaving because we think our 2010 class is going to be amazing. No disrespect, but I think it's a little too early to start discussing guys transferring before we even see them hit the field.

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Why even bring this up? I really don't see the need to discuss guys leaving because we think our 2010 class is going to be amazing. No disrespect, but I think it's a little too early to start discussing guys transferring before we even see them hit the field.

 

no disrespect at all....I just thought it would be a shame to lose any of these guys when all of them could contribute and even be starters on other teams (must be what USC feels like every year)

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I think we'll see little if any attrition... the class seems pretty tight, and I think they all relish the challenge to compete to get on the field.

 

The fact that Charlie got a bunch of phone calls of congratulations from CURRENT players upon hearing the Manti Te'o had signed a LOI for ND tells me that there are a good bunch of team-oriented fellows who want ND to win.

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Certainly we'll see some attrition: history during the Weis era has proven that. Some of that attrition will be due to personal reasons, and some will be due to lack of playing time. To select a specific candidate would probably be counterproductive for our team. As far as a position is concerned, the quantity and quality of WRs and RBs lend themselves to some movement occurring in that area.

 

One thing should be pointed out with regard to transfers. It is notable that students rarely if ever transfer or drop out due to academic reasons. That speaks volumes: despite the tough academic standards, our student-athletes receive the support they need to suceed. I witnessed that as a student-athlete back in the mid '80's.

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Certainly we'll see some attrition: history during the Weis era has proven that. Some of that attrition will be due to personal reasons, and some will be due to lack of playing time. To select a specific candidate would probably be counterproductive for our team. As far as a position is concerned, the quantity and quality of WRs and RBs lend themselves to some movement occurring in that area.

 

One thing should be pointed out with regard to transfers. It is notable that students rarely if ever transfer or drop out due to academic reasons. That speaks volumes: despite the tough academic standards, our student-athletes receive the support they need to suceed. I witnessed that as a student-athlete back in the mid '80's.

 

If you don't mind me asking, what sport did you play?

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Looking at the list, I don't see a lot of anticipated attrition - the class is pretty balanced among positions. Also, by the time the '10 class gets here these guys will be upperclassmen and if they get passed up by some stud freshmen I can't see them leaving with a year to go, but I could be wrong.

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We have to remember Freshman usually don't play unless they are freaks. The only freshmen I see coming in from the 09 class and starting is Teo. Motta will probably play some, but I don't think Cierre, Shaq, Tyler or Watts will see playing time this year. ND is just too deep at RB, WR, DT yes I said DT - I. Willaims, Paddy Mullen, Newman, H. Williams, possibly Cwynar, E. Johnson and Nwanko palying DT. ND doesn't actually run the 3-4 to much, mostly ND 4 on the front. Even for Teo to start he has to beat out Filer, and have B. Smith moved to the outside (which may be done).

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Funny, I think exact opposite. Cierre Wood will get some touches and I believe that Shaq will see the field early. Teo has some studs in front of him. He will get some PT just not as much as Wood and Evans but then again the defense tends to allow more early playing time because they don't have some ridiculously difficult scheme to memorize.

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chiro , iam with you , charlie says that the best players play , i think wood and maybe teo will get some touches, got to remember these freshmen don't know the drill just yet , go irish ;)

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If Deion Walker picked a school because of playing time and football only, he would have picked Penn State. Make no bones about it, he connected with their staff more during recruiting. Its why he silently verballed to them in the first place.

 

The tipping point with his recruitment with ND was academics. Kid knew he stood a better chance at being a higher paid actuary at ND than at PSU. His parents are in the education business too - only way he bolts from ND early is if its towards the NFL, the kid ain't transfering.

 

A lot of the positions that may have PT issues have guys that are rock solid on ND. On the surface, WR and LB look pretty stacked to me. But then consider Goodman growing up in the shadow of the dome, and Walker being an academic case, or McDonald and Posluszny committing early in the process, and I just don't see anyone bolting. I'll sincerely be surprised if any of these guys go elsewhere a year or two down the road.

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If you don't mind me asking, what sport did you play?

 

I wrestled for two years: my Sophomore and Junior years. Not very glamorous: I could not break the starting lineup, because we had a pretty damn good 134-pounder. I did get to represent Notre Dame at a tournament, and that was a rush.

 

I quit at the end of my Junior year: one of my only regrets.

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If Deion Walker picked a school because of playing time and football only, he would have picked Penn State. Make no bones about it, he connected with their staff more during recruiting. Its why he silently verballed to them in the first place.

 

The tipping point with his recruitment with ND was academics. Kid knew he stood a better chance at being a higher paid actuary at ND than at PSU. His parents are in the education business too - only way he bolts from ND early is if its towards the NFL, the kid ain't transfering.

 

A lot of the positions that may have PT issues have guys that are rock solid on ND. On the surface, WR and LB look pretty stacked to me. But then consider Goodman growing up in the shadow of the dome, and Walker being an academic case, or McDonald and Posluszny committing early in the process, and I just don't see anyone bolting. I'll sincerely be surprised if any of these guys go elsewhere a year or two down the road.

 

I doubt Walker is going anywbere. His parents moved to Indiana and his Dad now teaches and coaches at my kids high school....

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I hate the transfer talk as well--although i understand the fears--- but let me try and put a stop too it!!--- 2005-- dj hord-- completely understandable we all know that story-- 2007 aaron nagel-- again very understandable---2008-- noone------------why all the fretting - ill tell you 2006-- a class with lots and lots of problems-- talent wise and mentally!!---and it began right away and never stopped--FRAZIER__ CAREFUL_JONES_REULAND_YEATMAN_ GAINS_PRINCE_______some were explainable some were just weird-- hell we almost lost STEW as well--------WE WONT HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN TO A CLASS AGAIN!!---- if someone goes it will be for reasons we all understand and accept-- otherwise-- the curse of 2006 IS OVER____OK

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We are getting to the point of having enough depth that kids don't think they will come in and play right away. That will help slow the transfers. There will always be a few, but I think 10 members of NDs 2006 class are no longer on the team. Too many. As far as who it will be, there is no way to tell.

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