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I don't "hate" USC how I hate (1980's) Miami. Miami was true vitriol, true hatred. The dirty players, the dirty coach, dirty dirty fans. Fighting and spitting on each other. It was that dirty kind of hate that you see on Jerry Springer. You know, when she finds out that he's been sleeping with her sister and that Steve can't get to her fast enough and she's able to clock him in the temple with her right stiletto heel.But I digress,,,

 

No, USC hate isn't like that. It's just a tad "dirty hate" due to the Bush Push and parents house leasing deal and a few thuggish bad apples on their team. No, the USC hate I have is that of the jealous kind. The absolute talent depth that makes me drool. The constant top 10 recruiting classes since the Poodle took over. The recent National Championship(s) that they've enjoyed. The fact that they don't necessarily offer only shitty classes. The BCS wins. The Freakin' beautiful weather all the time! I hate USC for being so good for so long now. It must be how they felt in the 80's. It's unfortunate that I cannot hate them just for the game that they beat us in every now and then. No, I have to hate the fact that they are better than us. Here and now, they are better and I hate that. When we were, at least, on par with each other, at least we had "Tradition", "Academics", "HIGHER STANDARDS"! But everything else being equal I didn't have to hate them and I could respect them and still know Jesus likes us more than them AND we'll still probably beat them next game anyway.

 

Young fans listen up! We didn't used to be good. WE WERE GREAT!!! And we were great most of the time, most every game. Almost every player would do something every game to make you say, "OH snap! No he diunt!" or as we older guys would say, "Oh shit! Did I just see him do that!?" We weren't "2008 USC good", we were better! We didn't lose out on recruits because we had too much depth like USC is experiencing now, they still came! It was like Texas with Texas recruits except NATION WIDE BABY! That's how we were. I see USC how they are now and how their fans are now. All cocky and full of swagger. Yep, that was us. Except some of our fans may have been worse. Although being born a Notre Dame fan, it was a God given right and that's why fans of other teams hated us so much! 99% of that hate was not that "dirty hate" I described in the first paragraph, it was the kind of hate I now feel for USC. Frustrated jealousy! THAT is what I truly hate is that that is how I feel. I hate that I have to feel frustrated jealousy and I hate that about myself.

 

I don't want to hate USC anymore. I want them to stay just as good as they are right now and I want to be able to respect them again. Then I know that we are back because I will know we will probably beat them next game and when you are winning, it's hard to hate a good team that you know you are better than!

 

Right now, I hate USC and I don't like that about myself!

 

But I still say GO IRISH!!

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Another fabulous rant Speedster. But.....but I have to disagree. Living here in CA, SC is worse than '80s Miami. The thug players, their piece of trash bandwagon fans, their disgusting neighborhood, etc. etc.

 

Michael Irvin and Ray Lewis are classy guys compared to Frostee Rucker and Lendale White.

Speed,

 

You have been a fan a long time from the sounds of it. Where and why did it go south in your opinion?

I don't "hate" USC how I hate (1980's) Miami. Miami was true vitriol, true hatred. The dirty players, the dirty coach, dirty dirty fans. Fighting and spitting on each other. It was that dirty kind of hate that you see on Jerry Springer. You know, when she finds out that he's been sleeping with her sister and that Steve can't get to her fast enough and she's able to clock him in the temple with her right stiletto heel.But I digress,,,

 

So what you are saying it that 1980's "Da U" is modern day tO$U

I HATE USC AS WELL---yes hate-- how much hate-- well every time i hear that horrible band of brass play dum dum da dum after every play i want to buy a gun---when i see traveller trot around the field i think he would make great dog food-- and yet even though the unattractive patina of my dark side flourishes with this consuming hatred ----- all and all i think it is one of my more wonderful personality traits------frustrated jelousy-- NEVER--i dont evny their success, i resent it-- i dont covet their players, i wish them ill--leinart's failures make me feel all warm inside--i dont respect their coach while i see him gloating after crushing another outmanned opponent anymore then i respect the nazis for destroying the hapless polish cavalry--ahhhhhhhhhhhh HATRED -- a truly underappreciated emotion--so dont have shame-- and dont have guilt---as ND fans we live for two goals-- to win another NC and to see the FALL OF THE HOUSE OF TROY---"This is how it is written and this is how it will be"

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Speed,

 

You have been a fan a long time from the sounds of it. Where and why did it go south in your opinion?

 

There are a few things that stand out. Scholly limits, bad Admin decisions, bad coaching hires. Mainly, parity in talent across the board due to the failing of the program. It's not something easy to recover. Charlie Weis has had to start from, literally, scratch from 15 years of ineptitude. I'm not saying that CW is the answer but I will say that he's brought this program closer to the "old great" Notre Dame that I am used to (even WITH the 1 worst year in program history)!

 

If CW can't make it happen next year AND then we don't make a great coaching hire the year after, I don't think the program can recover for another decade!! THAT'S what these next 2 years really mean!! And I cannot stress that enough!

i feel the EXACT same way speedster

 

I'm lucky the friends I have from USC are decent people so I dont have to hear their shit

When USC has a couple of rough seasons, and they will, most of their fans will bail out on them and go in another direction. I feel sorry for the decent SC grads who hate seeing their university dragged down in the gutter by guys like Snoop Dog and his pals. I work with a guy down the hall who is an SC grad/ disabled vet. The new SC image makes him sick. Says its pulling down the value of his degree.

i just hate how every close call goes in their direction, even with replay............

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I don't want to hate USC anymore. I want them to stay just as good as they are right now and I want to be able to respect them again. Then I know that we are back because I will know we will probably beat them next game and when you are winning, it's hard to hate a good team that you know you are better than!

 

But I still say GO IRISH!!

 

We will rise again. I know this to be true. We are THE FIGHTING IRISH.

aww knock it off sligo. :) you'll always hate em. you'll never admit it cause your a good mom and loving wife and you don't want to be perceived as a hater. but i guarantee that every saturday when your looking at the recap of the scores you're saying a prayer that those bastards are gettin their arses kicked up and down, just like they are us. we need to put our foot on their throat and NEVER let up. and keep hating them. just like those idiots from BC.....................

If USC was a team that was clearly NOT breaking the rules and getting away with it, I would have a lot more respect for them.

 

I respect PC as a recruiter and a coach.....but I always wonder in the back of my head if he would be nearly as good at either if he played by the rules.

 

I hate USC....and I do not wanna stop.

If USC was a team that was clearly NOT breaking the rules and getting away with it, I would have a lot more respect for them.

 

I respect PC as a recruiter and a coach.....but I always wonder in the back of my head if he would be nearly as good at either if he played by the rules.

 

I hate USC....and I do not wanna stop.

DON'T ever....................

I'm not sure if it's hate but to quote an old Conan The Barbarian movie, " to crush your enemies,see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women." I hate giving up a mercy touchdown, I would prefer we win by a score of 56 to nothing every game.

I do not hate USC though I like to see them loose. I hate BYU with a passion that my humble writing skills are unable to convey. Teams I like to see loose are LSU, Bama, Fla. & anybody playing Notre Dame. Teams I like to see win ( when they are not playing ND) are Va. Tech, Ga. Tech, Utah ( because they too hate BYU (Frigg Um Young) , Ole Miss, Navy (because I spent 9 years with that outfit) any body playing BYU. :mrgreen:

add PSU to the i hate USC list and that about sums it up; although i am starting to grow some serious disdain for OSU and meatchicken....................

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