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charlie would not be out recruiting if he was to be fired. If the AD knew a change was coming he would have put the kibosh on CW's trip and be saving those HC travel days. These are a limited commodity and a new coach will need to get out there and put in the face time with current commits and potential new ones.

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Just a few tidbits from the profile I posted

 

While many coaches lecture on the virtue of possession time, Kelly stresses up-tempo play on both sides of the ball, using each practice to make his point. Armed with his no-huddle offense and the philosophy of a defense that must play 60 minutes, the Bearcats' mentor brings a different attitude to each workout.

 

Kelly led the Lakers to five conference titles and six Division II playoff appearances in his 13 seasons at Grand Valley. The Lakers never finished lower than third in the Great Lakes Intercollegiate Athletics Conference.

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One more thing, you can bet your bottom dollar an offensive coach with fire is coming onto the staff.

 

Lord I hope so....can't handle another year of Weis/Latina/Haywood/Powlus and the joke of a job they have done with our talented but incredibly under-achieving bunch on offense. T

 

The changes on the offensive side need to be wholesale

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I know I've been one of Kelly's biggest cheerleaders on here, but since we now have a thread on him, I'll tell you why I want him.

 

First, some history:

 

I was a student at Central when Kelly was hired. I was at his introductory press conference. Most detractors said two things. 1. He's a D-2 coach, now he has to make a jump and 2. CMU is so bad it will take years to get them competitive again.

 

In his first year, with a pub-beating that led to a death hanging over the head of the program and some of its best players (who were obviously recruited by the previous staff), CMU showed signs of moving forward at times, and struggled at others. In Year 2, they had their first winning season since 1998 and only the second since 1994 (this team was putrid).

 

The year after that (2006), he nearly beats Boston College despite losing his starting quarterback to a season-ending concussion, then wins the MAC and the Motor City Bowl with red-shirt freshman Dan LeFevour, who is playing miles above what anyone ever expected of him.

 

He was a candidate for the MSU and ISU jobs after that year, and when Dantonio was hired by the Spartans, he was pissed. A lot of people didnt think he was ready for prime time. So he went to Cincinnati to prove that not only was he better than Dantonio, but he was ready to coach in a BCS conference.

 

We've seen what he's done at Cinci, going 20-5 over two years and now winning the Big East in his second year.

 

Bottom line, he wins wherever he goes. He wins despite injuries (the QB situation at Cinci is ridiculous this year). He gets players to play above their talent level.

 

All this talk of "we need a proven commodity" is hilarious to me. How proven was Ara? <strike>How proven was Lou?</strike> (my bad on this second one. But I stick by the point)

 

<strike>They both</strike> He came from a smaller program after having success and became a legend.

 

Hiring another pro coach, I think, is a bad idea. Some guys are great pro coaches, others are great college coaches. There are very few in recent history that are both.

 

I wouldn't argue with hiring Nick Saban or Urban Meyer, I just think it's completely unrealistic. Both are making tons of money and with teams that are competing for national titles right now.

 

Kelly is the next rising star in the college coaching world, and I say we hitch our wagon to him and let him become the next in the line of great ND coaches.

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Brian Kelly not enough experience we nned someone that has taken a top rpogeam from the bottom to the top (meaning contend for a national champiship, not win the big east) and at the same time can deal with the pressures of Notre Dame.

 

The guy we need right now for an interim period to restore order, manitain the momentum, rebuild the pride is Lou Holtz. He could step right in running for a three to four year period and put a succession plan in place that would last for the following decade. Help the footb all commitee bring in the next head coach have hinm work with lew to learn how to deal as the Notre Dame coach. Lou could maintain the recruiting momentum and additioanlly build on it to ever better classes this year and next.

 

He would come in and say exactly what he did toi the players on his first day as head coach the first time, "OK sit up and listen, we are done losing" and it would be done.

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Brian Kelly not enough experience we nned someone that has taken a top rpogeam from the bottom to the top (meaning contend for a national champiship, not win the big east) and at the same time can deal with the pressures of Notre Dame.

 

The guy we need right now for an interim period to restore order, manitain the momentum, rebuild the pride is Lou Holtz. He could step right in running for a three to four year period and put a succession plan in place that would last for the following decade. Help the footb all commitee bring in the next head coach have hinm work with lew to learn how to deal as the Notre Dame coach. Lou could maintain the recruiting momentum and additioanlly build on it to ever better classes this year and next.

 

He would come in and say exactly what he did toi the players on his first day as head coach the first time, "OK sit up and listen, we are done losing" and it would be done.

 

 

That would pretty kool if we could get Lou to come in and coach and tutor another HC for ND. But, that is what should of happen the first time when he left..

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ok regarding those 2 guys mentioned. one was proven the other not.

 

Lou Holtz....

 

1969-1971 William & Mary Tribe

1972-1975 NC State Wolfpack

1976 New York Jets

1977-1983 Arkansas Razorbacks

1984-1985 Minnesota Golden Gophers

1986-1996 Notre Dame Fighting Irish

1999-2004 South Carolina Gamecocks

 

1972 ACC Coach of the Year

1977 National Coach of the Year

 

that's a pretty proven commodity before ND...

 

Ara ...

Miami Redskins (Mid-American) (1951?1955)

Northwestern Wildcats (Big 10) (1956?1963)

 

I would say that this is similar to Kelly. unproven at the highest level. Ara panned out, brennan, kuharick, devore, faust, willinham, davie. unproven and failed... sorry, dont like them odds. Get me a proven winner, stat.

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Brian Kelly is the right man for the job. He has an uncanny ability to use his weapons like I have never seen. I saw him take a terrible CMU program to the top in two years, he build Cincy to its pinnacle in two years, and his Grand Valley program was second to none! I have seen him coaching personally...as I played at GVSU and he demanded excellence and got more out of guys than any coach I have seen. He has had success with less than what Charlie has...by far...and he is, YES, I WILL SAY THIS...THE NEXT JIM TRESSEL. Tressel jumped from IAA to OSU and was successful. X's and O's are Kelly's strength and he has a killer instinct like we are looking for. ND needs this guy...and if we don't get him now and he goes elsewhere...I will be very disappointed. I have said this in other posts...he will win a national Title, and believe it or not...I think ND is his best opportunity. Not at Tenn, Wash, or any other place...we don't have to kill ourselves in the SEC or in the up and down firepowered PAC 10. He has built programs, won national titles, conference titles everywhere he has been, and is a midwest man. What more can we ask for?

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ok regarding those 2 guys mentioned. one was proven the other not.

 

Lou Holtz....

 

1969-1971 William & Mary Tribe

1972-1975 NC State Wolfpack

1976 New York Jets

1977-1983 Arkansas Razorbacks

1984-1985 Minnesota Golden Gophers

1986-1996 Notre Dame Fighting Irish

1999-2004 South Carolina Gamecocks

 

1972 ACC Coach of the Year

1977 National Coach of the Year

 

that's a pretty proven commodity before ND...

 

Ara ...

Miami Redskins (Mid-American) (1951–1955)

Northwestern Wildcats (Big 10) (1956–1963)

 

I would say that this is similar to Kelly. unproven at the highest level. Ara panned out, brennan, kuharick, devore, faust, willinham, davie. unproven and failed... sorry, dont like them odds. Get me a proven winner, stat.

 

A LOT of people say Ty was somewhat proven...Stanford to the Rose Bowl, Coach of the year, Pac-10 Coach of the year.....etc...

 

Here's something.....if not Brian Kelly, than who?

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ok regarding those 2 guys mentioned. one was proven the other not.

 

Lou Holtz....

 

1969-1971 William & Mary Tribe

1972-1975 NC State Wolfpack

1976 New York Jets

1977-1983 Arkansas Razorbacks

1984-1985 Minnesota Golden Gophers

1986-1996 Notre Dame Fighting Irish

1999-2004 South Carolina Gamecocks

 

1972 ACC Coach of the Year

1977 National Coach of the Year

 

that's a pretty proven commodity before ND...

 

Ara ...

Miami Redskins (Mid-American) (1951–1955)

Northwestern Wildcats (Big 10) (1956–1963)

 

I would say that this is similar to Kelly. unproven at the highest level. Ara panned out, brennan, kuharick, devore, faust, willinham, davie. unproven and failed... sorry, dont like them odds. Get me a proven winner, stat.

 

I went back and changed the thing on Lou. Hence the later "strike through doesnt work" comment.

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