The fans at the Cuse game were chanting for Brian Kelly, but I don't think he would want this job. He will have a ticket to the SEC at Tennessee. There are some names out there that are interesting.

 

Chris Peterson, Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, the guy I like is Gary Patterson at TCU. All these guys are innovative and are doing things with much less of a recruting availability.

 

I think another year of charlie and the unmotivational game plans will killl our recruiting classes and will damage us for years to come. I just don't think Charlie is the guy and the recruits that ND goes after are not because of Charlie alone. It is the program, the coordinators and the school. Once a kid hits the campus for a trip, it is very hard to turn down.

 

Don't give me Urban tLiar, give me a motivator that can think on his feet. If charlie wants to stay on as recruiting coordinator, great. He can continue to earn his salary, but will be in a personnel role.

 

What say YOU!!

First off, Charlie would never take a lesser role as offensive coordinator. Not happening.

 

Second, Patterson is the front runner for the Clemson job it seems, and Tennessee wants Kelly, but I don't know if they'll get him.

 

Third, we all need to let go of the fact that Urban Meyer chose Florida 4 years ago. Seriously. Let it go. The guy wins football games, and to me, this is the equivalent of people pissing on recruits after they choose a school besides ND. I know some people here hate the guy, but he wins football games, can recruit, and is on pace to get his second national title this year. Why wouldn't we want him as head coach? Because he decided to go to a different school last year? Yikes.

 

I don't think Meyer has any interest in leaving Florida, and Stoops/Leach are a pipe dream. I'd say the list should start with Chris Petersen at Boise State. The guy just wins, he's got a BCS win under his belt against a far superior Okalahoma team in terms of talent...he seems like he'd be a good fit.

 

Kelly -- not as sold on him. But he has won at the collegiate level.

 

Lane Kiffin is a good recruiter but I don't trust guys who have never won at the college level as a head coach. I'm sure he could end up being a very good coach, I just don't see him as the man for the ND job.

 

Just my two cents.

First off, Charlie would never take a lesser role as offensive coordinator. Not happening.

 

Second, Patterson is the front runner for the Clemson job it seems, and Tennessee wants Kelly, but I don't know if they'll get him.

 

Third, we all need to let go of the fact that Urban Meyer chose Florida 4 years ago. Seriously. Let it go. The guy wins football games, and to me, this is the equivalent of people pissing on recruits after they choose a school besides ND. I know some people here hate the guy, but he wins football games, can recruit, and is on pace to get his second national title this year. Why wouldn't we want him as head coach? Because he decided to go to a different school last year? Yikes.

 

I don't think Meyer has any interest in leaving Florida, and Stoops/Leach are a pipe dream. I'd say the list should start with Chris Petersen at Boise State. The guy just wins, he's got a BCS win under his belt against a far superior Okalahoma team in terms of talent...he seems like he'd be a good fit.

 

Kelly -- not as sold on him. But he has won at the collegiate level.

 

Lane Kiffin is a good recruiter but I don't trust guys who have never won at the college level as a head coach. I'm sure he could end up being a very good coach, I just don't see him as the man for the ND job.

 

Just my two cents.

 

Completely agree with you on Meyer. I would welcome him here IF he ever wanted to come. Chris Peterson is definitely a motivator and I will never forget his play calling against Oklahoma a couple of years ago. That was the best game I've seen in the past 15 years.

 

I absolutely love Gundy. He's been able to turn a program like OSU around. Not sure he would want to leave though. T. Boone Pickins has dropped millions of $ on that program to fix it and they may be the next contender. Their facilities are already impressing recruits.

 

BTW, Gundy is a fiery man. He doesn't take crap from the media either. Reminder:

 

 

I love it!!

First off, Charlie would never take a lesser role as offensive coordinator. Not happening.

 

Second, Patterson is the front runner for the Clemson job it seems, and Tennessee wants Kelly, but I don't know if they'll get him.

 

Third, we all need to let go of the fact that Urban Meyer chose Florida 4 years ago. Seriously. Let it go. The guy wins football games, and to me, this is the equivalent of people pissing on recruits after they choose a school besides ND. I know some people here hate the guy, but he wins football games, can recruit, and is on pace to get his second national title this year. Why wouldn't we want him as head coach? Because he decided to go to a different school last year? Yikes.

 

I don't think Meyer has any interest in leaving Florida, and Stoops/Leach are a pipe dream. I'd say the list should start with Chris Petersen at Boise State. The guy just wins, he's got a BCS win under his belt against a far superior Okalahoma team in terms of talent...he seems like he'd be a good fit.

 

Kelly -- not as sold on him. But he has won at the collegiate level.

 

Lane Kiffin is a good recruiter but I don't trust guys who have never won at the college level as a head coach. I'm sure he could end up being a very good coach, I just don't see him as the man for the ND job.

 

Just my two cents.

 

Patterson does NOT pick Clemson over a ND job if it comes available. I just wanted to start a quiet discussion about the possibilities and I know charlie does not take a lessor role.

 

I like all of them because their record as a coach and motivator.

forget it charlie is going to turn this program around next year . he stays go irish

Hope you're right Rick. I had to be told to stay away from sharp objects this past weekend.

The fans at the Cuse game were chanting for Brian Kelly, but I don't think he would want this job. He will have a ticket to the SEC at Tennessee. There are some names out there that are interesting.

 

Chris Peterson, Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, the guy I like is Gary Patterson at TCU. All these guys are innovative and are doing things with much less of a recruting availability.

 

I think another year of charlie and the unmotivational game plans will killl our recruiting classes and will damage us for years to come. I just don't think Charlie is the guy and the recruits that ND goes after are not because of Charlie alone. It is the program, the coordinators and the school. Once a kid hits the campus for a trip, it is very hard to turn down.

 

Don't give me Urban tLiar, give me a motivator that can think on his feet. If charlie wants to stay on as recruiting coordinator, great. He can continue to earn his salary, but will be in a personnel role.

 

What say YOU!!

 

I don't know why Kelly would want to go to what is now one of the worst programs in the SEC instead of ND. You have to play all those SEC teams every year=get your ass kicked because the cupboard there is pretty dry.

The cupboard at UT is FARRRRRRRRRRRR from dry. The rest of this conversation is ridiculous. Not one of those choices, except Leach is worth hiring in place of Charlie. Try again.

Kiffin is going to UT, according to reports, and ND is Kelly's dream job.

 

If we offer, he'll come.

The cupboard at UT is FARRRRRRRRRRRR from dry. The rest of this conversation is ridiculous. Not one of those choices, except Leach is worth hiring in place of Charlie. Try again.

 

You're right. My bad. I guess I assumed it was because of the record but I just checked and you were right. Even still, with that tallent that conference is relentless. If a USC type team and a Big Ten or Big 12 (maybe a better conference though) runs the table a 1 loss SEC team is probably out of the national title picture. Then you look at how hard it is to win a conference title. Idk, it's just crowded.

The fans at the Cuse game were chanting for Brian Kelly, but I don't think he would want this job. He will have a ticket to the SEC at Tennessee. There are some names out there that are interesting.

 

Chris Peterson, Mike Gundy, Mike Leach, the guy I like is Gary Patterson at TCU. All these guys are innovative and are doing things with much less of a recruting availability.

 

I think another year of charlie and the unmotivational game plans will killl our recruiting classes and will damage us for years to come. I just don't think Charlie is the guy and the recruits that ND goes after are not because of Charlie alone. It is the program, the coordinators and the school. Once a kid hits the campus for a trip, it is very hard to turn down.

 

Don't give me Urban tLiar, give me a motivator that can think on his feet. If charlie wants to stay on as recruiting coordinator, great. He can continue to earn his salary, but will be in a personnel role.

 

What say YOU!!

 

 

I live near the TCU area, and have met Gary Patterson numerous times. Hes a nice guy, but I have heard he has quite a temper. although maybe thats what we need. He also recruits speed. He doesnt pay attention to stars, if they run a 4.1 and have no football experience, he'll sign 'em up. Heck, maybe he'd get Usain Bolt to come to ND to return kicks.

forget it charlie is going to turn this program around next year . he stays go irish

 

Isn't that what most of us said/thought last year?

Three syllables: Fitzgerald.

 

Good Irish name too. And the last time we poached from Northwestern, nice results.

You're right. My bad. I guess I assumed it was because of the record but I just checked and you were right. Even still, with that tallent that conference is relentless. If a USC type team and a Big Ten or Big 12 (maybe a better conference though) runs the table a 1 loss SEC team is probably out of the national title picture. Then you look at how hard it is to win a conference title. Idk, it's just crowded.

 

I've been telling everyone I would take Clemson if I had my choice right now. Clemson is loaded with talent and plays in the ACC. There is no better situation. Washington has zero talent. UT has talent but plays in the SEC.

 

Why IN GOD's name do people want to go after Brian Kelly, a relative no name at a lower tier school. He hasn't sustained himself long enough for consideration. I don't care how much he likes us. He's been at Cincinatti for a couple years. Yay, he's top of the Big East. That's a real accomplishment. Gruden or Leach would be the best options if considering anyone. Noone else, beside Saban, is worth mentioning. There's always Bill Cowher, though.

 

Like I said, this is pointless until next year, though. Firing Charlie now is too early for the fools who can't hold their water.

I am not suggesting we remove Weis.

But...

I will ask again, why not Butch Davis?

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Bongs

Edited March 4, 201114 yr by jon33dn

Three syllables: Fitzgerald.

 

Good Irish name too. And the last time we poached from Northwestern, nice results.

 

That was ARA right?