ohioirishfan Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 In this article, Charlie sounds pretty pissed at Haywood, and ready to take over again. It sounds good to me. http://notredame.scout.com/2/809972.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest irishrick Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 well thats encouraging news , and is welcomed by all.. go Irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SirJohn Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Great find and report Ohio. Appreciate it from DD, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I thought CW's play-calling last season was worse than this year, everything else being equal. We'll see. Either way, screen, sack, draw, punt, repeat...gets old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyirishfan Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I here you the kid gloves have to come off for every player on this team. If this group is going to be good as we think they will. Performance has to come now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Herring Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I thought CW's play-calling last season was worse than this year, everything else being equal. We'll see. Either way, screen, sack, draw, punt, repeat...gets old. I'm sure its hard to call plays when the playbook is one page long. You have to think about the context of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGuy Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 In this article, Charlie sounds pretty pissed at Haywood, and ready to take over again. It sounds good to me. http://notredame.scout.com/2/809972.html Who was calling plays last year? This is not the answer. I do not want CW calling plays unless it is teh CW from 2005. Taking over play calling, and calling the same plays we have seen all year will do nothing for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneg Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Who was calling plays last year? This is not the answer. I do not want CW calling plays unless it is teh CW from 2005. Taking over play calling, and calling the same plays we have seen all year will do nothing for us. What else could have Weis called last year? I don't understand why so many bicker about the play calling last season. The play book could have opened up more if our offensive line could of actually pass protected. As is with the dink and dunk approach we still gave up 58 sacks which will be a NCAA record for a very long time. Imagine if we actually tried anything that involved a 5 step drop, I doubt Clausen would be capable of walking if that was the case. Last year was surely a disaster, but play calling is definitely not at the top of the list as to why it was so terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SirJohn Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Ray, IMHO opinion it was not the play calling last year. The kids could not grasp the playbook and more importantly grasp that darn football for a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfschellcrna Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 the sword of Damacles is hovering right above the nape of his neck, he better be damn pissed. this saturday may be his last stand.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGuy Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 The coaches need to start working as if their jobs are on the line each and every play....because this is the reality. Brown needs to be held responsible for all of our defense. If our line can't get better, he needs to be all over Oliver and Mendoza. Haywood needs to do the same on offense. If our running game doesn't improve, and our pass protection stays iffy, then he needs to be all over Latina and Mendoza. Charlie needs to understand that the entire team is a reflection of him. If he is unable to get improvement across the board, then he needs to put pressure on his coaches. As much as I blame our position coaches for our lines, special teams, and play calling, it IS Charlie's fault too. If he is unable to see the issues and address them, then he is not the coach I though he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinIrish Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Hi guys, I'm a first time poster and a long time lurker. I am just as frustrated as everyone else about the tough losses. It's difficult to lose, but even more so when you are losing to teams that you know you should beat. But I am urging everyone to hold their collective breaths and be just a little bit more patient with our staff. They are not perfect by a long shot, but let's give them some more time before we throw them off of the ship. Notre Dame fans are also using words like integrity and unity, maybe right now is a perfect opportunity to exhibit some restraint and show a unified front for our struggling football program. I am not saying that CW and staff shouldn't be held accountable, I just feel like right now is a time for the Mark May's of the college football world to exhibit their Notre Dame hate. As fans, let's stand behind our teams and coaches... for now. As painful as it is, try and remember how bad this team was one year ago. I had hoped for more improvement this year, but it has not come to fruition. But there has been improvement nevertheless. If the team can equal this years improvement for next season, then I feel we will have a top 25 team, which i a long way from 2007. Try and remember that most of our playmakers are freshman and sophmores. Let's give them some time to develop to the college game as well as the pressure of the expectations. Who knows, maybe a couple of these losses are blessings in disguise by positioning us to be in a bowl game that we can actually win. Sorry for the long post and thanks for being such a great site. DD definitely has the best posters of all the sites that I've lurked on. I'm looking forward to lots of fruitful conversations about ND football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND FANATIC Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 First of all, Welcome to DD FlyinIrish..... I think that the frustration comes from the fact that we had the same issues last year that we are having this year. ND hasn't had a decent OL since CW has been here, at that falls on the shoulders of the OL coach. It not like we don't have any talent at the OL position, we have more than most teams, but it just isn't coached well. We can't run the ball at all, passing blocking is hit-and-miss, their technique is terrible. The other issue that ND faces is that everyone seems to be faster and stronger than we are and if it turns into a physical type game, we lose every one of them. We don't play with passion, aggressiveness, or desire and people are getting tired of it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddThomas Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I listen to Brady Quinn on Mike and Mike this am and he is correct it is still the time for patience. I am not discounting what has happen, my wife will attest to my recent spate of foul language. We are seeing not only a learning process and a painful one at that for the players but also for the coaching staff. I still have faith in them going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGuy Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I agree that we need to be patient with some aspects of our team. We have an insanely young group of core players. All of our skill positions are in their 1st or 2nd year. Our D is coming around. We have a lot of guys that are being asked to play out of their comfort zone, and are inexperienced in a lot of key positions. We should not be expected to be patient with other parts of our team where were are not fundamentally sound, and look bad.... I came into this season expecting 4 or 5 losses. I had no thoughts of BCS games, or 10+ wins. However, I expected our team to play better and not look out of sorts. I will take stupid interceptions, and fumbles. I expect holding and offsides penalties. These are what young inexperienced teams do......I cannot be patient with horrid play out of our lines, and with plays that are destined to go nowhere. This is where I expect us to be good....right now. To be honest, we should have been a better team this year. We will finish with a record on par with what was ecpected, but our team is no where near where I (and many many others) expected it to be. Quite simply, we should have been a good team on the verge of something great. Right now, we are a below average team on the verge of being average. 2009 was supposed to be the year where ND flirted with the BCS, and was showing they were back. 2010 was the year ND would be back......this year has set up back a year....and a NC is not in our immediate forcast anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfschellcrna Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 brady didn't have to play behind this line.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangeruss Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 We have an insanely young group of core players. All of our skill positions are in their 1st or 2nd year. when CW arrived at ND he got a team that was top heavy in talent. quinn, stoval, rhema, fasano, carlson, samardzija, laws, landri, abiamiri, zibikowski... these guys were all juniors, seniors and 5th year guys. that might be why he had so much success early. then in '07 and '08 he's been playing with a lot of freshmen and sophmores. their is serious talent on offense and maybe it needs one more year to gain that experience. but i'll say that in '09 their should be no reason why this can't be a very good offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawton_irish Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Don't be surprised if we see a COMPLETELY different team this Sat. versus Navy. Charlie is still a master play caller, and when he gets in a zone, no defense can guess what is going to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDJoe06 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I remember what we had in 2005, when we had a strong team leadership and CW calling the plays. I cannot wait for this experiment to end, and for our O to finally be as destructive as it could be....look at our WR's they are amazing. My mouth is watering. Our D is gonna keep getting better.... I still say bring in LOU!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGuy Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 For everyone saying youth is no longer an excuse for the o-line, I have a simple question, why not? The age/exp (in years) of BC's front 7 - line: 4, 5, 5, 5; LB: 3, 5, 5. The backups at line 3, 4, 5, 4. The two dt's we just played against are both 5th year seniors. One was the #4 rated kid in his class, and comes in at 6-1, 325. The other is 6-4, 350. Personally, I would expect a true junior to have some trouble blocking either one of those guys, let alone a true frosh. Size and experience counts for so much on the lines; both of those take time. Many are pointing out how many starts our guys have made on the line, and saying they should be ready to play based on that. This logic completely ignores the fact that they simply shouldn't have that many starts. If a true sophomore is playing on the o-line, it should be because he beat out a 4th or 5th year guy to earn the spot. Our guys merely had to be healthy. They have made great strides this year. Give them a chance to do it again. Youth is an excuse for holding calls and false starts.....not getting thrown around like a rag doll and not being able to stop 3 linemen with 5 guys. Also, running should be EASY if these guys are "young" as blocking for running plays is by most accounts 10000000 times easier than pass blocking. ....and Trevor Robinson (our True Freshman linemen) is by far the best guy out there.....and he shouldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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