Irish rated at # 35

[Guest irishrick]

HEREE IS A LIST OF THE TOP TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY , WE SLIPPED SOME Polls NOW RATED AT # 35 TH --- bc IS AT 78 PLACE .

 

 

 

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The CBSSports.com 120 rankings take into account the CBSSports.com strength of schedule ranking and votes from our staff of writers, editors and producers. All of these elements combine to give you the most authoritative, definitive ranking of all 120 Div. FBS teams in the nation. Key: Rk - Rank, ALL - Overall record, CONF Conference record, SOS - Strength of schedule to date, Pvs - Previous 120 ranking, AP - Associated Press poll, Cs - Coaches poll

 

CBSSports.com 120 - Top 25 · Teams 26-120

ALL CONF

Rk School Pvs W L W L Last Next SOS AP Cs

26 Kansas 29 6 3 3 2 W 52 - 21

Kansas State Nov. 08

@Nebraska 40 28 26

27 Northwestern 38 7 2 3 2 W 24 - 17

Minnesota Nov. 08

Ohio State 66 26 25

28 Pittsburgh 41 6 2 2 1 W 36 - 33

Notre Dame Nov. 08

Louisville 48 25 28

29 Minnesota 21 7 2 3 2 L 24 - 17

Northwestern Nov. 08

Michigan 43 29 29

30 Oregon State 40 5 3 4 1 W 27 - 25

Arizona State Nov. 08

@UCLA 45 30 31

31 Oregon 23 6 3 4 2 L 26 - 16

California Nov. 08

Stanford 86 - 37

32 Miami (Fla.) 43 6 3 3 2 W 24 - 17

Virginia Nov. 13

Virginia Tech 20 - 36

33 Connecticut 28 6 3 2 2 L 35 - 13

West Virginia Nov. 15

@Syracuse 34 - 31

34 Cincinnati 37 6 2 2 1 W 24 - 10

South Florida Nov. 08

@West Virginia 41 30 33

35 Notre Dame 26 5 3 0 0 L 36 - 33

Pittsburgh Nov. 08

@Boston College 74 - -

36 Virginia Tech 35 5 3 2 2 L 30 - 20

Florida State Nov. 06

Maryland 29 - -

37 Wake Forest 44 5 3 3 2 W 33 - 30

Duke Nov. 08

Virginia 28 - -

38 South Carolina 45 6 3 3 3 W 27 - 6

Tennessee Nov. 08

Arkansas 50 32 30

39 South Florida 25 6 3 1 3 L 24 - 10

Cincinnati Nov. 15

Rutgers 76 36 37

40 Arizona 39 5 3 3 2 L 17 - 10

Southern California Nov. 08

@Washington State 93 35 35

41 Virginia 30 5 4 3 2 L 24 - 17

Miami (Fla.) Nov. 08

@Wake Forest 3 - -

42 Air Force 48 7 2 4 1 W 16 - 7

Army Nov. 08

Colorado State 73 34 -

43 Illinois 50 5 4 3 3 W 27 - 24

Iowa Nov. 08

@Western Michigan 25 - 33

44 Central Michigan 51 7 2 5 0 W 37 - 34

Indiana Nov. 12

@Northern Illinois 83 36 -

45 Iowa 46 5 4 2 3 L 27 - 24

Illinois Nov. 08

Penn State 51 - -

46 Vanderbilt 47 5 3 3 2 L 10 - 7

Duke Nov. 08

Florida 57 - -

47 Mississippi 53 5 4 3 3 W 17 - 7

Auburn Nov. 15

Louisiana-Monroe 11 - -

48 Boston College 34 5 3 2 3 L 27 - 21

Clemson Nov. 08

Notre Dame 106 - -

49 Kentucky 55 6 3 2 3 W 14 - 13

Mississippi State Nov. 08

Georgia 44 - 39

50 Clemson 58 4 4 2 3 W 27 - 21

Boston College Nov. 08

@Florida State 15 - -

51 Western Michigan 52 7 2 5 1 W 31 - 10

Eastern Michigan Nov. 08

Illinois 109 - -

52 Arkansas 62 4 5 1 4 W 30 - 23

Tulsa Nov. 08

@South Carolina 4 - -

53 Louisville 33 5 3 1 2 L 28 - 21

Syracuse Nov. 08

@Pittsburgh 84 33 -

54 Stanford 57 5 4 4 2 W 58 - 0

Washington State Nov. 08

@Oregon 78 - -

55 Nebraska 42 5 4 2 3 L 62 - 28

Oklahoma Nov. 08

Kansas 21 - -

56 Navy 61 6 3 0 0 W 33 - 27

Temple Nov. 15

Notre Dame 33 - -

57 Rice 63 6 3 5 1 W 49 - 44

Texas-El Paso Nov. 08

Army 90 - -

58 San Jose State 64 6 3 4 1 W 30 - 24

Idaho Nov. 08

Louisiana Tech 105 - -

59 Wisconsin 49 4 5 1 5 L 25 - 24

Michigan State Nov. 08

@Indiana 22 - -

60 Auburn 54 4 5 2 4 L 17 - 7

Mississippi Nov. 08

Tennessee-Martin 87 - -

61 Tennessee 59 3 6 1 5 L 27 - 6

South Carolina Nov. 08

Wyoming 35 - -

62 UCLA 60 3 5 2 3 L 41 - 20

California Nov. 08

Oregon State 49 - -

63 Fresno State 36 5 3 2 2 L 38 - 35

Louisiana Tech Nov. 07

Nevada 117 - -

64 East Carolina 65 5 3 3 1 W 13 - 10

UCF Nov. 08

Marshall 104 - -

65 Texas A&M 87 4 5 2 3 W 24 - 17

Colorado Nov. 08

Oklahoma 60 - -

66 Colorado 56 4 5 1 4 L 24 - 17

Texas A&M Nov. 08

Iowa State 14 - -

67 Duke 66 4 4 1 3 L 33 - 30

Wake Forest Nov. 08

North Carolina State 6 - -

68 Nevada 68 4 4 2 2 L 38 - 31

Hawaii Nov. 07

@Fresno State 100 - -

69 Marshall 89 4 4 3 1 W 37 - 23

Houston Nov. 08

@East Carolina 101 - -

70 Kansas State 69 4 5 1 4 L 52 - 21

Kansas Nov. 08

@Missouri 32 - -

71 Houston 70 4 4 3 1 L 37 - 23

Marshall Nov. 08

Tulane 91 - -

72 Mississippi State 71 3 6 1 4 L 14 - 13

Kentucky Nov. 15

@Alabama 71 - -

73 Colorado State 72 4 5 2 3 L 45 - 42

Brigham Young Nov. 08

@Air Force 24 - -

74 Louisiana Tech 93 4 4 2 2 W 38 - 35

Fresno State Nov. 08

@San Jose State 94 - -

75 Rutgers 74 3 5 2 2 W 54 - 34

Pittsburgh Nov. 08

Syracuse 5 - -

76 Purdue 77 3 6 1 4 W 48 - 42

Michigan Nov. 08

@Michigan State 7 - -

77 Indiana 75 3 6 1 4 L 37 - 34

Central Michigan Nov. 08

Wisconsin 18 - -

78 Arizona State 76 2 6 1 4 L 27 - 25

Oregon State Nov. 08

@Washington 17 - -

79 Akron 81 4 4 2 2 W 42 - 35

Eastern Michigan Nov. 05

Toledo 107 - -

80 Buffalo 82 4 4 2 2 W 32 - 19

Ohio Nov. 04

Miami (Ohio) 52 - -

81 North Carolina State 78 2 6 0 4 L 27 - 24

Maryland Nov. 08

@Duke 39 - -

82 La.-Lafayette 83 5 3 4 0 W 49 - 20

Florida International Nov. 08

Texas-El Paso 120 - -

83 Northern Illinois 84 5 3 4 1 W 16 - 13

Bowling Green Nov. 05

@Ball State 111 - -

84 Memphis 85 4 5 2 3 W 36 - 30

Southern Mississippi Nov. 08

@Southern Methodist 98 - -

85 Troy 73 5 3 4 1 L 31 - 30

Louisiana-Monroe Nov. 08

Western Kentucky 102 - -

86 Hawaii 67 4 5 3 3 L 30 - 14

Utah State Nov. 08

@New Mexico State 27 - -

87 New Mexico 86 4 6 2 4 L 13 - 10

Utah Nov. 08

@UNLV 23 - -

88 Texas-El Paso 80 3 5 3 2 L 49 - 44

Rice Nov. 08

@La.-Lafayette 68 - -

89 Temple 90 3 6 2 3 L 33 - 27

Navy Nov. 12

@Kent State 58 - -

90 UNLV 79 3 6 0 5 L 44 - 14

TCU Nov. 08

New Mexico 54 - -

91 Michigan 88 2 7 1 4 L 48 - 42

Purdue Nov. 08

@Minnesota 38 - -

92 Baylor 92 3 6 1 4 L 31 - 28

Missouri Nov. 08

@Texas 36 - -

93 Army 91 3 6 0 0 L 16 - 7

Air Force Nov. 08

@Rice 112 - -

94 Bowling Green 97 4 5 2 3 W 45 - 30

Kent State Nov. 08

@Ohio 92 - -

95 Arkansas State 94 4 4 2 1 L 35 - 0

Alabama Nov. 08

@Florida International 96 - -

96 New Mexico State 95 3 5 1 3 L 49 - 0

Boise State Nov. 08

Hawaii 80 - -

97 Iowa State 96 2 7 0 5 L 59 - 17

Oklahoma State Nov. 08

@Colorado 99 - -

98 Southern Mississippi 101 3 6 1 4 W 70 - 14

UAB Nov. 08

@UCF 88 - -

99 Florida International 98 3 5 2 2 L 49 - 20

La.-Lafayette Nov. 08

Arkansas State 108 - -

100 Florida Atlantic 100 3 5 1 2 W 29 - 28

Louisiana-Monroe Nov. 08

North Texas 79 - -

101 Louisiana-Monroe 112 3 6 2 3 W 31 - 30

Troy Nov. 08

@Middle Tennessee 115 - -

102 Wyoming 108 3 6 1 5 W 35 - 10

San Diego State Nov. 08

@Tennessee 42 - -

103 UCF 99 2 6 1 3 L 13 - 10

East Carolina Nov. 08

Southern Mississippi 77 - -

104 Toledo 103 2 6 1 3 L 24 - 23

Central Michigan Nov. 05

@Akron 85 - -

105 Middle Tennessee 104 2 6 1 3 L 31 - 22

Mississippi State Nov. 08

Louisiana-Monroe 97 - -

106 Syracuse 116 2 6 1 3 W 28 - 21

Louisville Nov. 08

@Rutgers 9 - -

107 Utah State 113 2 7 2 3 W 30 - 14

Hawaii Nov. 08

@Boise State 65 - -

108 Kent State 102 2 7 1 4 L 45 - 30

Bowling Green Nov. 12

Temple 118 - -

109 Washington State 106 1 8 0 6 L 58 - 0

Stanford Nov. 08

Arizona 31 - -

110 Tulane 109 2 6 1 3 L 35 - 10

LSU Nov. 08

@Houston 82 - -

111 Ohio 111 2 7 1 4 L 32 - 19

Buffalo Nov. 08

Bowling Green 70 - -

112 Washington 105 0 8 0 5 L 56 - 0

Southern California Nov. 08

Arizona State 10 - -

113 UAB 110 2 7 1 4 L 70 - 14

Southern Mississippi Nov. 15

@Tulane 110 - -

114 Idaho 114 2 8 1 5 L 30 - 24

San Jose State Nov. 15

Boise State 113 - -

115 Miami (Ohio) 115 2 6 1 3 L 54 - 21

Kent State Nov. 04

@Buffalo 114 - -

116 Eastern Michigan 117 2 8 1 5 L 31 - 10

Western Michigan Nov. 22

@Temple 53 - -

117 Southern Methodist 118 1 8 0 5 L 34 - 7

Navy Nov. 08

Memphis 37 - -

118 North Texas 120 1 8 0 4 W 51 - 40

Western Kentucky Nov. 08

@Florida Atlantic 103 - -

119 San Diego State 119 1 8 0 5 L 35 - 10

Wyoming Nov. 08

@Brigham Young 81 - -

120 Western Kentucky 107 2 7 0 0 L 51 - 40

North Texas Nov. 08

@Troy 67 - -

Updated: Tue Nov 4 09:20:29 EST 2008

CBSSports.com 120 - Top 25 · Teams 26-120

[SpeedsterX]

At this point, it doesn't matter where we are in any poll. We need to win games and consistently show improvement. Polls will take care of themselves if we do that.

[IrishGuy]

I have no problems with 35.

 

Right now, we are a team that is good and getting better. We are a middle of the road team, but nothing more.

 

We just need to win a game or 2 more and get to a bowl. We can start watching the polls next year.

[IrishGrizz]

I just wish some on this site would realize we are this type of team and stop expecting us to play like a top 10 team. We are not at that level this year, yet all the whiners here base all of there comments on that point. To paraphrase a certain ex NFL coach, " the Irish FB team are who we thought they were" not who we want them to be or who they will be in the future.

[hawaiiirish]

some on this board are just so content with loosing -- so wonderfully accepting and understanding-- i think thats just dandy---one little thing the coach that said-- "they are who we thought they are" AKA dennis green-- was FIRED-- but i guess thats cause they didnt have enough understanding and patience!

[IrishGuy]

some on this board are just so content with loosing -- so wonderfully accepting and understanding-- i think thats just dandy---one little thing the coach that said-- "they are who we thought they are" AKA dennis green-- was FIRED-- but i guess thats cause they didnt have enough understanding and patience!

 

I am not accepting losing. I am accepting reality.

[IrishGrizz]

some on this board are just so content with loosing -- so wonderfully accepting and understanding-- i think thats just dandy---one little thing the coach that said-- "they are who we thought they are" AKA dennis green-- was FIRED-- but i guess thats cause they didnt have enough understanding and patience!

 

I have what you don't have- realistic expectations. Just cause you wish this was the '88 NC team doesn't make it so. But that is how you base all your comments. You have very little patience and cannot see the forest for the trees. You see only bad, and no good from this team. You sound like you like to be miserable. I do not accept losing. I understand the process Charlie and the AD are going through. I struggle with every loss. I just don't lose sight that we are making progress in the right direction.

 

And the way you used that analogy was right on target. Denny Green couldn't win and showed little progress at Arizona- (16-32). Nothing like Charlie. But I was using the phrase to show that people knew what type of a team ND would be at the start of the season- a middling 7-5 to 9-3 team.

Edited November 5, 2008 by IrishGrizz

[GermanyDomer]

If we beat BC I consider this season a success. 8-4 will put us in a bowl we can win, a 9-3 record bowl game might have been a problem.

[ND FANATIC]

Grizz,

I don't think its the fact that we lost three games, I think it is more the manner in which we lost them. If it were as simple as the the team, due to inexperience and lacking the knowledge on how to win, I think people would be a little more understanding. I believe that the frustration comes from the fact that we are not losing to teams that are better than us.

 

How in the world does CW, MH, and CB get out coached by Dave Wannstadt ? There is no reason in the world, but it happend, and we lost. How is it that our OL hasn't really improved in the running game in 3 yrs ? Why do both of our lines continually get pushed around and dominated at the line of scrimmage ? Why does ND, when faced with a team that likes to play a physical brand of football, lose everyone of those games ?

 

I think that people would understand if we lost games just due to stupid mistakes made by young teams, its frustrating, but acceptable. But we are losing games because teams are more physical, emotionally ready, better coached, stronger and faster - and there is no way that should be happening to ND, we are getting some of the best kids in the country.

 

I am not one of those people calling for CW's head, but there is something wrong on that staff, plain and simple. People are more than welcome to put lipstick on that pig, hell go ahead and put blush, eye liner, and earings on it too, it is what it is, and people are getting frustrated watching it.

[hawaiiirish]

FANATIC-- you have right on the nose!-- its not that we lost three games its the manner in which we did it--i pass on too much MSU criticism-- they were a good mature team-- the NC game ive called a good loss we saw we were the better team-- we felt the pain on loosing cause we were good and shouldnt of lost-- turnovers-youth- football is a funny game- i let that pass--but the PITT game was too much for me--i wouldnt be quite as hard on the coaches as you-- you want some firing done--LOL-- maybe your right-- i just want someone to throw some cold water in there face and wake em up-- maybe WANNY did just that !!

[Guest irishrick]

yes it would be nice to beat BC as they have hit us pretty hard for the past few years, I am still thinking that we can win 27 to 17 type score , i just feel that we can score on them , there defense is big at the line but JC will pass us to victory, as for the losses that have come this year i think that everyone has a blame in it players,coaches , but lets hope that coaches and players learn from it . like someone said if you get knocked down , get back up that counts, i still say we will get a bowl game , which will get us an early start on a better season in 09, . go Irish i still think that the rest of the games are going to the W column including dem Trojans. go Irish

[crouchingjedi]

35 -- AWESOME! We are moving up to mediocrity.

 

Fanatic you had some excellent points there about why we are losing games not because of superior talent but because of being out-physicaled and out-coached.

 

I think we can all agree that losing to BC and losing a bowl game (resulting in a likely 7-6 season) would be extremely disappointing. The bowl albatross would still hang from our necks, and also the notion that we cannot beat any good teams.

 

Before this season most realists were predicting 7-8 wins and a bowl win with an improving team heading into a possible NC run in 2009. Now once again the standards are being lowered for 2009.

 

"The D keeps us from beating top teams, but once we get rid of Minter . . . "

 

"This team is young and doesn't know how to win close games yet, but when we have senior leadership. . ."

 

"The OL is the problem with the O right now, but once we fire Latina . . ."

 

"It's OK because Haywood's playcalling is only temporary so Charlie can get him a new job. But when the guru resumes playcalling . . ."

 

"When we recruit some 5* studs on the DL. . ."

 

Look out in 2025 guys--that's our year!!!

 

Sorry, it's the cubs fan in me.

[ND FANATIC]

35 -- AWESOME! We are moving up to mediocrity.

 

Fanatic you had some excellent points there about why we are losing games not because of superior talent but because of being out-physicaled and out-coached.

 

I think we can all agree that losing to BC and losing a bowl game (resulting in a likely 7-6 season) would be extremely disappointing. The bowl albatross would still hang from our necks, and also the notion that we cannot beat any good teams.

 

Before this season most realists were predicting 7-8 wins and a bowl win with an improving team heading into a possible NC run in 2009. Now once again the standards are being lowered for 2009.

 

"The D keeps us from beating top teams, but once we get rid of Minter . . . "

 

"This team is young and doesn't know how to win close games yet, but when we have senior leadership. . ."

 

"The OL is the problem with the O right now, but once we fire Latina . . ."

 

"It's OK because Haywood's playcalling is only temporary so Charlie can get him a new job. But when the guru resumes playcalling . . ."

 

"When we recruit some 5* studs on the DL. . ."

 

Look out in 2025 guys--that's our year!!!

 

Sorry, it's the cubs fan in me.

 

I still waiting, and Mendoza should go with him. They are both good guys, but something isn't clicking with their styles.

[Double_Domer]

I'm not surprised by all of the negativity toward losing games...and I hate losing just as much as everyone else, but put the season in perspective for a minute. We are only a few plays away from being undefeated - think about that possibility.

 

If JC hits Floyd - game over. That is a pass I would expect him to make 99 times out of a 100 and that is why it hurt so much. Was it such a bad call by the coach?

 

Now in the NC game, we handed it to them on so many bad plays, but still had a chance to win the game. Against MSU same thing - we play poorly, but are in the game and could've won it.

 

Last year - there is no way we are close in those games, probably not even competitive. There is progress being made and the recruiting is on track. It does take time for young teams to develop the ability to win. Point is - I didn't predict we would be undefeated at this time, but if we can win against BC then we are headed in the right direction. I would rather see the glass half full than half empty especially after last year when it was bone dry.

[domeanddomer]

I'm not surprised by all of the negativity toward losing games...and I hate losing just as much as everyone else, but put the season in perspective for a minute. We are only a few plays away from being undefeated - think about that possibility.

 

If JC hits Floyd - game over. That is a pass I would expect him to make 99 times out of a 100 and that is why it hurt so much. Was it such a bad call by the coach?

 

Now in the NC game, we handed it to them on so many bad plays, but still had a chance to win the game. Against MSU same thing - we play poorly, but are in the game and could've won it.

 

Last year - there is no way we are close in those games, probably not even competitive. There is progress being made and the recruiting is on track. It does take time for young teams to develop the ability to win. Point is - I didn't predict we would be undefeated at this time, but if we can win against BC then we are headed in the right direction. I would rather see the glass half full than half empty especially after last year when it was bone dry.

 

 

That gate swings both ways there Double D. We're also a couple of plays away from being 3-5. The whole point that many of us made is not that we're 5-3, but that we're better than at least 2 of those 3 teams if not all three, and led significantly at one point in 2 of the 3 losses.

[Double_Domer]

That gate swings both ways there Double D. We're also a couple of plays away from being 3-5. The whole point that many of us made is not that we're 5-3, but that we're better than at least 2 of those 3 teams if not all three, and led significantly at one point in 2 of the 3 losses.

 

Dome, I understand what you mean, and I know we should've won those games, but I guess my attitude is like CB in his video - frustration at losing, knowing you are better, and knowing you will improve - just not knowing when it will all come together, but brother when it does watch out. There should be a reason to be disappointed, but this is not like Faust, Davie or Ty b/c the team is improving...that was my point. Now lets kick in some teeth...

[domeanddomer]

Dome, I understand what you mean, and I know we should've won those games, but I guess my attitude is like CB in his video - frustration at losing, knowing you are better, and knowing you will improve - just not knowing when it will all come together, but brother when it does watch out. There should be a reason to be disappointed, but this is not like Faust, Davie or Ty b/c the team is improving...that was my point. Now lets kick in some teeth...

 

As usual...good point Double D. You're absolutely right that our current situation is nothing like Faust, Davie or Ty. I have my concerns about CW as a gameday coach and our line coach but I'm no expert either. It has been frustrating losing to UNC and Pitt. Now I have to listen to Mark May's dumb ass gloat. That, and it is really embarrassing to lose to Wanstedt. He is terrible.

[Double_Domer]

As usual...good point Double D. You're absolutely right that our current situation is nothing like Faust, Davie or Ty. I have my concerns about CW as a gameday coach and our line coach but I'm no expert either. It has been frustrating losing to UNC and Pitt. Now I have to listen to Mark May's dumb ass gloat. That, and it is really embarrassing to lose to Wanstedt. He is terrible.

 

That's what will make all the victories that much sweeter when they come...

[Irish Chris]

I still waiting, and Mendoza should go with him. They are both good guys, but something isn't clicking with their styles.

 

I swear FANATIC, it could be just that simple.

I think the improvement on the O line could be incredible if we were to bring in a great line coach.

This team's turnaround might truly be night and day with that one simple change.

So much of our failures on offense are rooted in really bad O line play.

 

I don't know about Mendoza, but not much about this team has shown me that we are stronger, quicker, or better conditioned than any team we've faced.

I would be happy with just losing Latina, but whatever makes this team better is okay with me.

[IrishGuy]

I did not think much about Mendoza til this year. I was actually under the impression that Mendoza had been doing a good job, and was somewhat impressed with what he did with Chris Stewart. My only problem with him is that our players don't look nearly as cut as other schools....which doesn't really mean a lot. We don't seem to get hurt a lot, and our players don't seem to get gassed.....these two things are a direct result of Mendoza.

 

There is no question about Latina.....he needs to go.