jfschellcrna Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 is officially the Notre Dame of 2007....................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batch Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I don't know. Did we start eating our young on this board last year, like they are on theirs this year. Their all turning on each other, blood in the water and its a feeding frenzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Ha! They lost to "little brother"! The gnashing of teeth will last a month! LOL! :mrgreen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batch Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Lots of smoke coming out of Michigan that their stud QB, Shadrack Beaver is going to decommit after his visit this last weekend. If that happens, wow their scout board will be in total melt down. Several posters over there getting shelled for saying anything slightly negative about the program or coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da coach Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The sad thing is, it isn't like Rich Rodriguez has a long track record of sending guys to the NFL, so his recruiting is going to slow down eventually too... Combine that with the incumbant groups inability to fit in the system and a year or two of the new blood coming in and finding their way...this looks like a looong rebuilding project that may never pan out...and only leave the cupboard bare for the next guy... Granted, Michigan is a traditional power and has a long proud history, but if they lose for a couple years in a row, find an offense that is incapable of beating Ohio State / Notre Dame and will struggle against Penn State / Wisconsin / MSU / Illinois... I frankly can't see how this team ever recovers... Its not like when Schembechler took over and rebuilt the program, the game has changed too much and the players/recruitment has changed with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Irish Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 RR first 4 years will be defined by him missing out on Pryor. AT BEST he will go 1-3 against OSU in that time, and will have 0 big ten titles. Bottom line is until he find the QB to run his system he will be no threat to go to a good bowl game, let alone win the big ten or compete for a NC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfschellcrna Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Lots of smoke coming out of Michigan that their stud QB, Shadrack Beaver is going to decommit after his visit this last weekend. If that happens, wow their scout board will be in total melt down. Several posters over there getting shelled for saying anything slightly negative about the program or coach. DOMER, i think batch just said shaggin' beaver!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND FANATIC Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Maybe its my general dislike for DickRod, but if I were a QB, I wouldn't be jumping at the chance to go to Ann Arbor. If you watch him during the game, he jumps the QB's rack everytime he comes off the field. I understand that Threet isn't very good at running a offense he wasn't recruited for, but good Lord. I understand it may be his coaching style, but thrashing your QB everytime he comes off the field on national TV, probably isn't the best way to recruit a new one. Its going to take a kid with some very thick skin to put up with DickRod for four years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishLeopard Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 were gonna have to wait and see if michigan was las years ND...cuz it was around this time last year where the freshman started openin our eyes, clausen, kamara, neal, b smith, ian williams, ragone, and hughes all started to come on at this time....if michigan doesnt start seein improvement by freshman not names martin, mcguffie and odoms...could be a long next season too for them next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGuy Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Actually, it is a little different with Michigan.... RR has a roster full of guys that do not fit his system. None of the QBs on his current roster will see much playing time (if any at all) once RR gets his guy in house. McGuffie is really the only one I think fits the "his kinda guy" mold. RR needs to completely revamp the OLine, he needs a new QB (I think they have someone that may fit this mold in this year's recruiting class), and he needs them in this class. If RR cannot get linemen and a QB for his system, next year won't be a whole lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brady112106 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 For Dickrod, it's not about the stars next to the kid's name either. Pat White, when recruited, was a 2 star QB rated #53, per Scout. He'll end up getting enough guys to show improvement. The question is how long will it take to show recruits UM will be on the rise again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGuy Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 That is a good point Brady. RR doesn't need the Pryors of the world to field a scary team. ....but I am glad Pryor chose to go to OSU over Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domeanddomer Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 DOMER, i think batch just said shaggin' beaver!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahaah. What the hell kind of name is shadrack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrdreamer Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 DOMER, i think batch just said shaggin' beaver!!!!!!!!!!! Jeezsus...Willingham, Rickles, Seinfeld and Schell Your killin' me with the laughter. By the way...put the form in the Skunk's program for the year, both on and off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batch Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 For Dickrod, it's not about the stars next to the kid's name either. Pat White, when recruited, was a 2 star QB rated #53, per Scout. He'll end up getting enough guys to show improvement. The question is how long will it take to show recruits UM will be on the rise again. To be honest I think that is a bit misleading. The kid was voted Alabama athlete of the year and offers from lots of D1 schools based on this athletic ability alone. The only reason he was a 2 star is because dual threat QB's weren't really talked about that much. I wonder what he would have been rated last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirodomer Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 RR will get his guys. it will take time and they will compete every year. true patience lies in bearing what's unbearable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Michigan hasn't even become ND of last year, yet. Yeah, we were crap last year, but at least we were in a position to slowly get better. Michigan hasn't even hit rock bottom, yet. Wait until the recruits jump ship and half the team quits or transfers this year. Then, Michigan will be ND of last year, because it will have nowhere to go but up. That's assuming Rich Rod gets recruits. Until he starts pulling in top 10 classes, he will continue to suck, or he will hit a ceiling of success really early. ND, even though it will win between 7 and 9 this year is still on the way up. Rich Rod could realistically plateau at 7-9 wins a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Fence Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 RR first 4 years will be defined by him missing out on Pryor. AT BEST he will go 1-3 against OSU in that time, and will have 0 big ten titles. Bottom line is until he find the QB to run his system he will be no threat to go to a good bowl game, let alone win the big ten or compete for a NC. Canadian - I thikn you nailed it here. A lot of UM people I talk with say he put his eggs in one basket with Pryor and running out Mallett, Manningham and Arrington. It's a little broader than Pryor, but they are pointing to the loss of Pryor as the defining moment for the next few years, particularly if the rumors pan out and Beaver decommits as the smoke seems to indicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJonesIRISH Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Michigan hasn't even become ND of last year, yet. Yeah, we were crap last year, but at least we were in a position to slowly get better. Michigan hasn't even hit rock bottom, yet. Wait until the recruits jump ship and half the team quits or transfers this year. Then, Michigan will be ND of last year, because it will have nowhere to go but up. That's assuming Rich Rod gets recruits. Until he starts pulling in top 10 classes, he will continue to suck, or he will hit a ceiling of success really early. ND, even though it will win between 7 and 9 this year is still on the way up. Rich Rod could realistically plateau at 7-9 wins a season. We didn't lose any recruits due to our crappy season last year. They lost Boren sp? already so I think they hit rock bottom when they lost to Toledo. As for top 10 recruiting, RR did plenty with 2 and 3 star kids at WV. He'll do fine with top 25 talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyglue Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I hate to defend the guy but he did this at WVU as well. It took him about 1 1/2 years and he started to turn things around. He was left similar type players (WVU under Nelan was a big 10 type program with big physcial players) and didn't do anything but install his offense and lived with the growing pains. At WVU he didn't need top 10 talent to win. If memory serves me correct, WVU might have been the only D1 school to offer White as a QB. He did have other offers but at safety I believe. RR will find another kid like White that is fast and may not have the best arm but still wants to play QB at the next level. The difference between now and WVU is he is selling a higher profile school that has produced talent to the NFL. Because of this, he is going to start off by getting 3/4 * kids versus 2/3 * kids like he started recruting at WVU. It won't take long and UM will been a very good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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