Donjuan Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Kind of strange to see a ref lower his shoulder on a QB. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcdWdBgUBqw&eurl=http://www.ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?b=football;pid=79036;d=this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishCrazy Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 DJ, what exactly is that? that did not actually happen, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donjuan Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 DJ, what exactly is that? that did not actually happen, right? What you see really happened. Kind of mind-blowing isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brady112106 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I was watching the game and was blown away to see the ref lower his shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 My first thought was that was photoshopped somehow. Did that truly happen? Someone needs to look into that refs dealings with bookies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donjuan Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 My first thought was that was photoshopped somehow. Did that truly happen? Someone needs to look into that refs dealings with bookies!! Apparantly SC was using that ref as a pick all night, and he got fed up with it and lowered the boom. They scored anyways on the next play but it's still pretty odd. After you watch the video, scroll down and read the viewer comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yea, I watched it over and over and over. At one point I'm thinking, Yea he tried to hit him and stepped into him. Then I rewatch it and I am thinking, well, maybe he's only trying to protect himself when he realizes he's going to get hit. I really don't know. It's really strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SirJohn Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I'm with Speedster on this. I think he was just trying to protect himself when he realized he was in the same scheme route and had this big guy coming right at him. I'd do the same which is, protect myself. I don't want to go to the hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDJoe06 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 he ain't a tree guys....he not only lowered the shoulder he stepped into the qb rather than away... refs hate it when the offense repeatedly uses their immobility to get extra yards... i remember seeing reggie bush use the refs to ruin angles of attack, but that was the sc that the ncaa loves to give full body massages to... so whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 He wasn't doing that as self-defense... Watch. He works himself down the line like a linebacker, shuffle shuffle, then takes a step forward and lowers his shoulder. He was just like an extra linebacker on the field. That was ridiculous. I don't care if he was being used all game. I hope he never officiates another game. He needs to know his role, which is to be a part of the field. If South Carolina is using him as a pick, well, too bad. You get paid. Do your job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdnd81 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Non story guys, i watched the play live and, just watched the youtube. It looked worse on Youtube. The reason the ref shuffled over is, there was some LB action forcing him out of the "ref pocket", And when a guy is about to run into you do you just stand there and get blown up? He did lower his shoulder maybe too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Looks suspect to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Non story guys, i watched the play live and, just watched the youtube. It looked worse on Youtube. The reason the ref shuffled over is, there was some LB action forcing him out of the "ref pocket", And when a guy is about to run into you do you just stand there and get blown up? He did lower his shoulder maybe too much I was going to say the same thing. LB's coming from his other side and a little QB coming at ya, if you had to be hit, which one would you choose? BUT, after looking at it yet again, he never even looks towards the LB's coming on his other side. He keeps his eyes on the QB and continues to shuffle into his path. Not only that but he actually wide steps towards the hit to give his shoulder. The more I look at it, the more suspect it looks. BTW, went to lurk on some Stanford boards to hear the outrage but not one word about it that I could find. Hmmmmm,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Qwertyy Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 You are kidding yourself if you think that the ref wasn't trying to stop Garcia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Is that what they mean when they talk about the 12th man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishCrazy Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I was going to say the same thing. LB's coming from his other side and a little QB coming at ya, if you had to be hit, which one would you choose? BUT, after looking at it yet again, he never even looks towards the LB's coming on his other side. He keeps his eyes on the QB and continues to shuffle into his path. Not only that but he actually wide steps towards the hit to give his shoulder. The more I look at it, the more suspect it looks. BTW, went to lurk on some Stanford boards to hear the outrage but not one word about it that I could find. Hmmmmm,,,,, Speedster, one reason you may not hear "not one word" about this incident on the Stanford board is that it happened to the QB from South Carolina in the game against LSU. Their helmets look remarkably similar... That could a reason, I'm just sayin' : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Fi ND du Lac Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 haha...I was trying to figure out what speed was talking about. Honest mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) Speedster, one reason you may not hear "not one word" about this incident on the Stanford board is that it happened to the QB from South Carolina in the game against LSU. Their helmets look remarkably similar... That could a reason, I'm just sayin' : ) LMAO!!!!!!!!! Just noticed that. I was only paying attention to the play itself and looking at the uni's and helmets just assumed Stanford. LOL!! Ok, I'm a dolt! :mrgreen: Here's another view: And yes, they are pissed: http://southcarolina.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1825&tid=119432521&mid=119432521&sid=1017&style=2 Edited October 20, 2008 by SpeedsterX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangeruss Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 that play is nuts, i can't believe the ref did that. it's very clear that the ref went out of his way just to put a shot on him. looks like this ref will finish out the year doing HS games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwoodND Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I believe after watching the replay the Ref meant to hit Garcia. And I believe that the NCAA should get involve and Fire him....What we should do this weekend or go back and watch some old clips from other games of this one ref and see if he has done it before.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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