mwinely Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Bowden was just fired this morning. Interesting to see what this does to their recruiting class. I know both Holloman and Loston we were significantly interested in, but do not remember whether they reciprocated that much. Holloman is currently listed as soft verbal and that may change now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJonesIRISH Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Bowden was just fired this morning. Interesting to see what this does to their recruiting class. I know both Holloman and Loston we were significantly interested in, but do not remember whether they reciprocated that much. Holloman is currently listed as soft verbal and that may change now. He deserves it. With any average coach there they win the ACC this year hands down. In regards to recruiting this guy is amazing. How he could pull in top talent, while sucking year after year is amazing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangeruss Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 no doubt he could recruite. he had hands down the best talent in the ACC just couldn't do anything with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SirJohn Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Boy this is a surprize. Thanks for the info I was expecting Joepa out in the windo next, I'd just save yourself a ton of bucks and rather then a bonze statue of JoePa just spray paint him Bronze and place the sucker on a pedistal. Same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 IMO, this was not a smart move by the school, board, whoever is in charge of the decision. They should have waited till after the season was over. He's still good for an 8-9 win season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donjuan Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Like most controversies, there're different ways to look at this firing. 1.) They've already thrown in the towel for this year and are looking for a quick sexy hire, who can salvage their recruiting. 2.) They've already found a coach, and he will need time before NSD to pull in or keep the recruits they have. Possibly coaching the rest of the season and gaining some momentum as well. 3.) They plan on hiring the "molder of men", and he can't wait to hit the links during bowl season--recruiting will take care of itself. I think with all three--and with all other theories--they plan on conceding this year for the sake of recruiting, and will take the chance of possibly getting the team to play with emotion of a new coach looming. But ultimately, IMO, this was a smart move. It might spark the team to play better and it helps with recruiting--see CW and his first ill-salvaged recruiting haul. --given more time, CW might've been able to pull in some better prospects-- So no lame duck at Clemson, just a new start. You have to have a starting point, the sooner the better in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishziggy Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Look at all the talent Bowden has at Clemson and his team is bad right now. The guy could recruit, but never gets the most out of his players. CJ Spiller and James Davis are both 1st Rd Draft picks and that defense is so talented. It baffles me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchingjedi Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I know a guy out west who will be available in just a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donjuan Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Washington fans should be upset with their current, hand-cuffed situation. It's not going to get better for them so why hasn't their administration done anything yet? Cue their melt down now--3...2...1...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1sS1TmXF38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blarney_stank Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Like most controversies, there're different ways to look at this firing. 1.) They've already thrown in the towel for this year and are looking for a quick sexy hire, who can salvage their recruiting. 2.) They've already found a coach, and he will need time before NSD to pull in or keep the recruits they have. Possibly coaching the rest of the season and gaining some momentum as well. 3.) They plan on hiring the "molder of men", and he can't wait to hit the links during bowl season--recruiting will take care of itself. I think with all three--and with all other theories--they plan on conceding this year for the sake of recruiting, and will take the chance of possibly getting the team to play with emotion of a new coach looming. But ultimately, IMO, this was a smart move. It might spark the team to play better and it helps with recruiting--see CW and his first ill-salvaged recruiting haul. --given more time, CW might've been able to pull in some better prospects-- So no lame duck at Clemson, just a new start. You have to have a starting point, the sooner the better in my opinion. With respect to 1 and 2, I don't know who would be available from either the college coaching ranks or the pros that would be a quick, sexy hire in the middle of the season. Also, for the reason above, if they already found their coach, I doubt he is a big name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donjuan Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 With respect to 1 and 2, I don't know who would be available from either the college coaching ranks or the pros that would be a quick, sexy hire in the middle of the season. Also, for the reason above, if they already found their coach, I doubt he is a big name. Here's a different take on it, one that seems plausible. http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=862634 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirodomer Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Lane would be a great hire for them. But...........he wouldn't fit in down there. I went for a year down there in college and I can assure you that he would have trouble being accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mikey G Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 No doubt Clemson has some flashy skill players, their D has played well enough to keep Clemson in just about all the games they played so far (besides the Alabama game), and they have plenty of talent, but the lack of a consistent QB play plus replacing 3 big time starters on the O-line took it's toll offensively. With its patchwork O-line, the offense just can't get anything working in the rushing or passing game. I think the writing was on the wall a long time ago for Tommy Bowden to hit the road, and Clemson finally pulled the trigger. It will be interesting to see who they pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND FANATIC Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 From my understanding of the situation, the AD went to Bowden and told him that he was out at the end of the year but he could keep coaching through the end of the season. Bowden decided to step-down now, get paid the rest of the year and take his 3.5mil buy-out....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donjuan Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 And now the Rich-Rod rumors begin. I just read that he hasn't signed his contract yet with Michigan, and given is sleaziness, might be thinking of going back to Clemson. Then I read a retraction from his agent Brown, who states that Rich has the best job in all of college football and will be there forever. I would think the best job incollege football would be the one at Washington. There you don't have any success and they'll still pay you your millions regardless of lack-of-improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Fence Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Fit aside - U-dub should seriously consider bringing in Bowden. They will need a true wizard to rebuild the talent pipeline that the guy there now has effectively destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Can Bowden coach O-Line...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blarney_stank Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Here's a different take on it, one that seems plausible. http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=862634 I forgot about Kiffin DJ. That is a very real possibility if they want to get the deal done now. Aside from him, I don't see any other changes happening until after the year plays out. Heck, Kiffin may want to see what plays out with other options as well. Who knows but he is the only high profile guy that would make sense for a mid year dismissal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will munny Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Here's the coaching bio of the Clemson offensive line/associate head coach Brad Scott. Hmmm...first or second in rushing offense in the ACC the last two years. Was o-line coach at FSU when Charlie Ward was there. http://clemsontigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/scott_brad01.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 If Tommy can coach O-Line, I would prefer him. He's a great recruiter and would take care of a position we could use a little help in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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