BlackIrish42 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 despite the fumbles floyd has had (two big ones) and what i think was mistake in his read on JC's last pick, how great do tate and he look? i mean, floyd seemingly can't be covered and tate catches pretty much anything you throw his way AND doesn't go down easily in the least. i figure we should celebrate these guys despite our feeling down after this loss. remember how bad the WR position seemed last year? what a difference a year makes...wow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Irish Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I cant believe how fast Tate went from a guy that runs one route to well rounded WR. Floyd is putting up some scary stats for a true freshman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest meballos18 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 It's all a matter of time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughes4Heisman Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 that last fumble floyd was more of a lateral then a fumble. he was trying to keep the ball live with the clock winding down. instead of just falling down he tried to lateral and keep the play alive. but besides that, him and tate are pretty unbelievable right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat33 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 H4H, That's what I thought with Floyd looking to lateral, but no one really seems to see it that way. Also, those two are unbelievable, but I was a little disapointed that we didn't attack the middle a bit more, because I think Rudolph is as talented, but the safeties are always cheating towards Floyd and Tate, which usually leaves him on LBers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdnd81 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Real F_ING good... Floyd is running right past my man Timmy Browns records... I might have to change my Sig!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Irish Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 H4H, That's what I thought with Floyd looking to lateral, but no one really seems to see it that way. Pretty sure he was, but unless it was play designed for that he should have went down as soon as he caught the ball. But thats something you gotta live with when you play a true freshman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIrish42 Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 Pretty sure he was, but unless it was play designed for that he should have went down as soon as he caught the ball. But thats something you gotta live with when you play a true freshman. exactly. he needs to remember that in CFB, the clock would've stopped when he went down. no need to lateral the ball there. but again, i'm picking on him a bit. the kid has exceeded all expectations anyone could have reasonably had for him. tate as well. again, i just wanted to celebrate their contributions n today's game, despite the loss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChuckDiesel Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Agreed, as early as next year they could be the best wide receiver tandem in the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Chris Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 H4H, That's what I thought with Floyd looking to lateral, but no one really seems to see it that way. Also, those two are unbelievable, but I was a little disapointed that we didn't attack the middle a bit more, because I think Rudolph is as talented, but the safeties are always cheating towards Floyd and Tate, which usually leaves him on LBers. Welcome to DD mat, and that's exactly what Floyd was trying to do. As soon as his shoulders hit the ground, you could clearly see him flick the ball back with his hand. Oh if only he would have just gone down. It probably seemed like an eternity to him though, even if it only took 4 or 5 seconds. I like our odds at the 7 yard line with Tate, Floyd, Kumara, Grimes and Rudolph out there. Oh yaa, that Jimmy kid's not bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwoodND Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Mat Welcome to DD man...have to agree with what Floyd tried to do..A freshman mistake one that he won't make again this year unless its a play that is called for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domeanddomer Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Hey BI...it sure seemed like CW was plowing JC after that pick intended for Floyd. That leads me to believe that Jimmy screwed that up somewhere. Whether he was supposed to check it off or just threw it to the wrong place I don't know. It just seems to me that CW wouldn't have been laying into JC like that if Floyd had run the wrong route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIrish42 Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 (edited) Hey BI...it sure seemed like CW was plowing JC after that pick intended for Floyd. That leads me to believe that Jimmy screwed that up somewhere. Whether he was supposed to check it off or just threw it to the wrong place I don't know. It just seems to me that CW wouldn't have been laying into JC like that if Floyd had run the wrong route. well, not to be too self-serving here cuz god knows i could be wrong on this whole thing but according to CW today at his press conference, he was ripping into JC cuz CW thought JC should have taken a time out first. i guess the play was not called correctly or something? at any rate, there was some confusion in the huddle and CW evidently told JC he *has* to a take a TO in that situation. now, i still stand by what i saw. could anyone who tivo'ed the game check it out and see if i'm wrong? it looked to me like floyd *clearly* beat his man (quite easily) off the ball (thus meaning his read should have been the fade pattern) and the safety couldn't have got over in time to prevent the fade route being completed. but hey, i could be wrong... Edited October 13, 2008 by BlackIrish42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirodomer Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Hey Black, It looked like there were two plays where Floyd and Clausen were miscommunicating. One was the TD pass to Floyd. Looked like Floyd was suppose to run a fade and it looked like a curl or slant only to have Floyd come back at the last second and save it. The pick looked like it was supposed to be "go" and it looks like Floyd ran a post. Let's not forget our good friend Kamara. He saved Jimmy's skin on that play where Kamara teed that linebacker up and laid him out when he tried to intercept JC's pass. We are going to be very good by the end of the year. USC is going to get beat by us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDJoe06 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Floyd is a freshman....i cannot believe it at all!!!! WOW this kid is great! Tate is a play maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domeanddomer Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 well, not to be too self-serving here cuz god knows i could be wrong on this whole thing but according to CW today at his press conference, he was ripping into JC cuz CW thought JC should have taken a time out first. i guess the play was not called correctly or something? at any rate, there was some confusion in the huddle and CW evidently told JC he *has* to a take a TO in that situation. now, i still stand by what i saw. could anyone who tivo'ed the game check it out and see if i'm wrong? it looked to me like floyd *clearly* beat his man (quite easily) off the ball (thus meaning his read should have been the fade pattern) and the safety couldn't have got over in time to prevent the fade route being completed. but hey, i could be wrong... Well then that answers a lot if that's what CW said. I missed the presser. The safety that came over to make the INT still might have made a play on the ball even if Floyd ran the go route...but I have quickly learned that I will take Floyd on a jump ball with a corner or a safety any day of the week!! The other thing I noticed on replay that would support your theory is that the post that MF ran was way short of the 1st down marker. And in all honestly, it looked like more of a curl than a post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIrish42 Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 Well then that answers a lot if that's what CW said. I missed the presser. The safety that came over to make the INT still might have made a play on the ball even if Floyd ran the go route...but I have quickly learned that I will take Floyd on a jump ball with a corner or a safety any day of the week!! The other thing I noticed on replay that would support your theory is that the post that MF ran was way short of the 1st down marker. And in all honestly, it looked like more of a curl than a post. i agree on floyd's route. didn't look like a post to me. not even a skinny post... but either way, i think JC threw the ball early enough for the safety not to get over in time if floyd is streaking down the sideline but you are correct in saying even if the safety *does* make it there, we'd all be happy to have floyd fighting a shorter safety for the ball... awww, damn, all this makes me relive the pain of what shoulda been JC's first big win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da coach Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I am really optimistic about Floyd, Tate, Walker, Kumara and Shaq being the best group of WRs in school history next year... IMO: Floyd compares to Larry Fitzgerald Tate compares to Curtis Conway Walker compares to Brandon Marshall Kumara compares to Mo Stovall (when DK loses the weight) Shaq compares to Jeremy Maclin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikejND Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Floyd broke off his route because he had safety help over the top.. That's what your suppose to do. But either way, kid is a BEAST!! Remember Arrelious Benn? We were only hoping for his kind of production out of Floyd this year.. Check the stats. Arrelious Benn YEAR REC YDS AVG LNG TD 2007 54 676 12.5 56 2 Michael Floyd YEAR REC YDS AVG LONG TD 2008 27 426 15.8 48 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIrish42 Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Floyd broke off his route because he had safety help over the top.. That's what your suppose to do. i'm sorry, i don't believe that was the case. again, i'm going from memory here, as i watched the replay during the game but did not tivo i so i could break it down after the game but the way i saw it was that floyd beat the corner *so* decisively off the ball that the safety could *not* have gotten over fast enough to disrupt the fade. and again, as D & D'er said, even *if* the safety did somehow manage to get over, we all would like the chances of floyd versus a shorter safety in a jumpball situation. also, i'm sorry as much as i love floyd, i'm more inclined to think that the frosh made the mistake not the soph. qb. as i said i could be wrong but that's what i think... btw, you're very on point with the floyd/benn comparisons. and let's face it, floyd seems, from what we've heard and seen, the better kid too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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