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Except for these Junior HS. I am beginning to feel we are done with Senios. "Booked" It's just a hunch.Nothing solid. But I noticed Carufel said he made a verb to Coach Weis waaaaay back on October 6th. In a Presser late November/early December Coach implied recruiting 2006 was essentially over and they were moving on to 2007 recruits.

 

In an article here I did say Given Weis personality he really doesn't care to be put off. or rather delayed decisions. A DD member here correctly reminded me of some PR value to Notre Dame like in the Army Game.

 

Given all the above I feel those that chose ND have already done so but waiting for perhaps Feb 1st? It's just only the coaches know and which of the remainder is ours.

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I am almost certain now Weis knows who we have in the bag as remaining two opens.

 

The below article is excerpt from PE.com it deals with USC. USC usually waits till the end of the Feb1 deadline to fill. Lot's of doubters scoffed when they only had 10. Charlie seems to like to fill em up early in a differing philosophy from Carrol. USC with 14 still seems strong. Pppdle Pete's "They don't know what we know." Holds for Coach Weis I wouldn't worry I say we are booked up solid :)

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Despite just 14 commitments, compared to 27 each for top-five teams Florida and Notre Dame, and big classes for Texas (25) and Georgia (24), USC's class is ranked No. 2 in the nation by Sports Illustrated, No. 3 by Rivals.com and No. 5 by Scout.com.

 

In the previous three seasons, USC was credited with having the No. 1 class in the nation by at least one of the national recruiting services. It appears this year will be no different.

 

When asked about critics of USC's slow-developing recruiting, Coach Pete Carroll said: "They don't know what we know."

 

The only school with nine top-100 recruits, USC has 13 of its 14 commitments from players ranked either five- or four-star prospects for an average 4.21 ranking on Rivals.com and a 4.36 on Scout.com. No one else exceeds Florida's 3.89 average in both rankings.

 

Other top players committing to USC, but not able to sign until Feb. 1, the NCAA's official date, include safeties Taylor Mayes (6-foot-3, 220 pounds, from Seattle) and Antwine Perez (6-0, 200, Camden, N. J.). Perez, whose hitting has been compared to ex-Trojan Ronnie Lott, has enrolled at USC and should be available for spring practice.

 

Also enrolled is junior college transfer Gerald Washington (6-5, 253), a tight end from Chaffey College in Rancho Cucamonga.

 

Wide receivers Vidal Hazleton (6-2, 200, Hargrave Military Academy, Va.) and David Ausberry (6-4, 215, Lemoore) are ranked as high as second in the nation at that position, while linebacker Joshua Tatum (6-2, 220, Oakland) tops out at No. 3 at his position.

 

Other recruits and their highest rankings at their positions: Offensive linemen Butch Lewis (6-6, 280, Aurora, Colo., No. 5) and Zach Heberer (6-4, 269, San Pedro, No. 7);Tight end Anthony McCoy (6-4, 240, Fresno) and running back Emanuel Moody (5-11, 190, Coppell, Tex.), both No. 10;

 

Cornerback Shareece Wright (5-11, 185), Bradford's Colton teammate, No.11; Defensive end Alex Parsons (6-5, 260, Irvine), No. 13;

 

Defensive tackle Derek Simmons (6-5, 268, Fairfield), No. 16.

 

Coleman Surgery Today

 

Carroll said freshman Michael Coleman was scheduled for his second hip cartilage surgery today after getting operated on in July to repair the tear at the front of his hip joint. But instead of sitting out six months, as earlier expected, Carroll said the 230-pound running back from San Bernardino might make it back for spring football.

 

Also scheduled for surgery is freshman linebacker Brian Cushing, who will get his left shoulder ligaments tightened, Carroll said.

 

Reach Dan Weber at dweber@pe.com

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USC people are star gazers. Stars mean right next to nothing for me. Sure if a kid has 5 stars, then I'm sure he performed very well on the HS level. College is a whole nother story. A lot of kids fall through the cracks because obviously scouts can't be at every single game that a prospect will be playing at. At best they probably get to see the prospect play a few times, and maybe even more if the prospect draws enough attention. Kids like Raeshon McNeil, however, aren't noticed or given as much respect as what is probably deserved.

 

Recruiting titles are just that,.. recruiting titles. I would rather have a national championship. Congratulations USC for having a bunch of kids that dominated on the HS level, now let's see what they can do in college.

 

No offense to any prospect, but I was thoroughly unimpressed with several people at the AA game. Lemme just name some names. Ian Symmeonette was atrocious at OL; Maurice Evans (whom I was very impressed with) made him look like a JV player if not a freshman squad captian. Another one that didn't overly impress me was Jai Eugene. He didn't play that bad, but he did get beat a few times at critical juncters of the game. And I know, I know, he was going up against the best that anyone has to offer(supposedly), but still,... Raeshon McNeil didn't seem to have that much trouble. Myron Rolle was probably the biggest dissappointment and probably the most overrated player in my book. Terrance Austin made him look silly on a couple of occasions, and he even drew a penalty on him. The highlight of Mr. Rolle's day was stopping the Calfilsch return. Another one that looked like a 5-star recruit :roll: was Ausberry. I seen him miss a few balls that he probably couldn't have caught, but I also saw him drop a couple, and to top it all off, he had one from Jevan Snead sail right through his hands and hit him in the facemask. Go Trojans!!!!

 

Bottom line: USC can count their lucky stars til the cows come home, I'll take the intangibles like Weis who can coach a 3-star player into an all-American, or find an underrated kid who the recruiting services have never heard of.

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:D WAY TO GO GRAYSON. That's my take. If Charlie wants a 2 star he can train up...go for it forget the five star guys. (Flavor of the month recruit)

 

The main reason I put up the post is there is concerns we are unsure we have so and so. I think I am pointing out Charlie already has a full book. Just the kid, whichever it is has to say so. There's no doubt we got the two filled which is it tho? :lol:

 

Pete does have different Philosophy....Clean up late vs Charlie's let's get it all over with and move on. Pete was implying despite worries from USC or Media he only had 10 late, he's now jumped to 17. "They don't know what I know." So Pete's booked too. Weis gave more or less we are essential done with 2006 recruiting a month ago or so.

 

REALLY it is not will the kid decide ND.................I feel it's done. It's just which one of the silent guys already told Weis I'm ND :lol: McCoy? the others? Only Weis knows. Coach would not enter 2006 with half a deck of cards, he's just holding them NCAA won't let him utter a word.

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Gentleman take a look at the freshman All-American team. Correct me if im wrong but not one so called five star recruit made it. We had eleven kids play or invited to play in the AA Bowl. How many did usc have? Not eleven, not even close. The poodle can have the left overs. Ill take early versus late anyday. I would rather get the kids I want first instead of having to sort through the left overs. Everyone of the kids Notre Dame got they had targeted as players they wanted to add to the team. I would trust the judgement of a successful NFL coach over the judgement of a poor one. Charlie succeeded because he knew how to use his personnel. The poodle isnt going to have the horses hes had anymore. You dont just replace a Bush, Leinart, or White. He knew it was over the night of the Rose Bowl! I was sooooo happy that Bush and Leinart went out having played their final game for the National Championship and LOST! There was nothing better than seeing their faces or hearing that they were voted the most spirited loser's. HAHAHAHAHAHA. I hate usc!!!!!

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:lol: BG Ahahahahahahahah! Yep maybe so

left over" I liked that remark. Apt. :lol: Better late ten never ais alway sooner or later never catch up. Besides seems Charlie CAREFULLY chose guys with good character. No problem boys.

 

I was thankful ND only had the 1 DUI, home not on campusand promptly suspended though we needed a runner, compared to rapes, armed robbery, thugging and what not.

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Bush very well may be the first pick overall. His stock is at its highest point right now. I doubt he stays and risks an injury. He comes back and gets hurt he loses millions. If he does come back id be pretty shocked. White has also formally declared so he wont be back, Leinart is gone so its not the perfect little situation for Bush anymore!!! Texas keyed on him in the Rose Bowl and every team they play next year would do exactly the same thing. I think this is a case of Pete the Poodle scared of being exposed this coming year for what he really is and he is probably in Bush's ear begging him to stay. If Bush is smart,which he already showed he isnt by not coming to ND, he leaves for the NFL so all the sportswriters and espn can continue swinging from his nuts.

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In response to grayson, you said that USC has won several recruiting titles now we have to see what they can do on the field, however those recruiting classes just reeled off 2 national titles, 34 straight wins, and maybe 2 or 3 plays from having 3 national titles and 35 striahgt wins, now i hate usc as much as anyone, but to say that you would rather have a 2 or 3 star player over a 5 star player is somewhat odd to me.

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I think what he means is that he believes charlie knows what he wants, no matter the star, so if charlie wants a three star more than a five star guy, then so be it...charlie knows what he wants and the stars dont matter to him, maybe a 5 star guy wont fit the system or isnt the type of kid he wants while a three star guy may fit in and excel in the system

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II am glad to have the feed back.

 

I do NOT never will trash 34 plus wins except (weak Pak 10 teams? :) )

 

I mean when Cow and Organ left it did expose his weak D at So Cal. We couldn't match up even with Weis. With O leaving? Kiss So Cal goodbye.

 

Carrol was a FLOP in NFL 2 teams. He happened, like Weis did and picked an outstanding staff, Chow and Oregan. Charlie has a plan if a Coach goes down for ND, like Coach Cut did.

 

Stars? Let's not get those into fans stars blinding their eyes here. Charlie looks at a Rivals guy 3 stars and wants him, charater good, grades good (We can train him up) Take your gun toteing know it all snot nosed 5 star elsewhere. Rapes, Trashing women in rap songs, theft.....do we really need this kind to get a #1 rating in recruiting? OK? Is there a trophy awarded USC, Texas or if ND won #1 recruiting class?

 

No it's just fan chatter over 16 year old kids that most won't produce anything good till 2008

 

Stupid and silly...... If Notre Dames Coaches picked any kid....... we definitely havem #1 class in recruting. Rivals, ESPN, USA, Scout, and Lemming be dammned

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I think what he means is that he believes charlie knows what he wants, no matter the star, so if charlie wants a three star more than a five star guy, then so be it...charlie knows what he wants and the stars dont matter to him, maybe a 5 star guy wont fit the system or isnt the type of kid he wants while a three star guy may fit in and excel in the system

 

This is exactly what I was trying to say. Another thing, I wasn't necessarily saying that I didn't think that the players in the past were no good, because as you said, they won 2 national titles and had a pretty nice win streak. What I was saying was, I'm not as impressed with some of the kids that they are getting this year.

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take out reggie bush and all those recruiting classes just make USC another good team, like oklahoma, texas, or miami...all kinds of schools get good classes, but it takes a special player or a special coach to make for a dynasty, you will see USC stay towards the top with there talent but now that bush is gone they become just like every other top ten/fifteen program... it took a special COLLEGE player in Young to beat them this year, and Ill say that our coach is special enough to put us on top for a long time, while we watch USC and there average coach fall back with every other school who just gets top kids, look to see them like miami and fsu for the last 5 years or so

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