SpeedsterX Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 We'd be celebrating and looking very positive for our future. As it is we are all thinking, we could have lost to a terrible team. I say we almost beat ourselves today. Look, every team comes into Notre Dame with their best games. SDSU is no exception. Remember, they had one game (although a loss) to shake the rust off. We committed way to many stupid penalties. There were more than one very bad call. Jimmy looked good and not one sack. Yea some things looked bad. But most are correctable. Our team IS still young and most teams have their biggest improvement of the season between games #1 and #2. Receivers looked pretty good and the turnovers were not Jimmy's fault. There were alot of improvements over last year. We'll be ok! Improvement! Improvement! Improvement! Over the course of the season and by the end, we'll be looking pretty good and a decent season. A win is a win and this gives the kids alittle momentum knowing they came from behind to take the W!! Keep your heads up!! GO IRISH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrdreamer Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Nice post Speedster. To the point with both negatives...yet positives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joycel Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I just hope that ND plays like they did during the last 8 or so mins. against scum. i dont want to see that whole 'to hell with michigan' thing come back in weis' face. i dont know about you guys but i really dont want to lose a big game like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 That's what I'm talking about....every blind Michigan and SDSU fan sees the score and calls it close. I admit I was pissed and a little nervous but I never thought that SDSU was going to win. It's very simple. This team is young and their egos are very fragile. One mistake (big or not) rattles them and they get all tight. SDSU had nothing to lose so they came lights out and had a (somewhat) good gameplan with all those short passes out of the shotgun (good thing our D is good). When you come out tight it really inhibits your talents because you're becoming more afraid to make another mistake and it's becomes like quicksand. Our guys are fine talent and execution wise. They need to loosen up and play with some damn emotion. When they make a mistake (big or small), they need to shake it off and come out swinging again. There's a lot of crap being talked on Michigan and SDSU boards. ND needs to loosen up and just play. They have the talent, they just need to stop questioning themselves while they are playing. Oh, check around the country...."bad" teams are really taking it to the "better" teams that are suppose to beat them. Michigan is so blind that they can't stop bashing ND while they themselves almost lost to freakin Miami (Ohio) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 Right! Look at Miami and Florida right now. A crappy Miami team 6 points away from the Heisman Trophy winning QB and #5 Florida in the 4th! We'll get better! We have a great foundation of talent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDJoe06 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Speedster, I hope you are right. but last year i always expected us to improve...Man....i am getting wasted right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanyDomer Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 SDSU sucked worse than ND today. There were many positives but ND was carved up by a freshman no-name QB. I hope this was just a case of the Irish shaking off rust because Michigan wont be quite as crappy. Anyway a win is a win. Lets hope SDSU looks great the rest of the year so our win will look a little better. Till next week guys. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishziggy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 SDSU sucked worse than ND today. There were many positives but ND was carved up by a freshman no-name QB. I hope this was just a case of the Irish shaking off rust because Michigan wont be quite as crappy. Anyway a win is a win. Lets hope SDSU looks great the rest of the year so our win will look a little better. Till next week guys. Cheers. Carved up? 13 points isnt carved up. Spread offenses are going to score points. It's inevitable. Penalties and turnovers helped SDSU all day. We hurt ourselves and we were on the field wayyy too long. He played well, but def didnt carve us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 (edited) SDSU sucked worse than ND today. There were many positives but ND was carved up by a freshman no-name QB. I hope this was just a case of the Irish shaking off rust because Michigan wont be quite as crappy. Anyway a win is a win. Lets hope SDSU looks great the rest of the year so our win will look a little better. Till next week guys. Cheers. how were they "carved up"...yea, they hit a lot of really short passes they sprung for 5-7 yards, but I wouldn't say he carved up the D. They had a game plan that negated the rush by playing from the shotgun with short passes. Oh, I should add that the secondary had tons of knocked down passes and pretty much covered their WR's all game long I will say this: The front 7 sure don't hide who's going to blitz and who isn't. I remember two plays where their QB saw the blitz coming so easily before the snap, and he just threw a quick strike to his slot receiver. But I wouldn't say he carved up the D. Edited September 7, 2008 by Franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzenboyer Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 SDSU didn't help themselves yesterday. There were a LOT of dropped passes that would have resulted in first downs and big plays. We got lucky on those, and a good team will capitalize on our mistakes. I think the thing I'm most worried about is this "blitzing just because we can" attitude we've brought to the defense. I like Jon Tenuta, I like Corwin Brown, and I like being aggressive. But some instances don't call for us bringing the house, and by the end of the first quarter, SDSU had adjusted and were simply throwing to the blitz side every time. This was a redshirt freshman making these calls at the line, not a seasoned upperclassmen. The offense line didn't give up a sack, Jimmy's passing improved exponentially in the second half, but keep in mind we were one inch from going down 20-7 in the fourth. There's quite a bit to be concerned about, and there's quite a bit to be happy about, but for a large part of the game this team look unprepared, unmotivated, and just plain bad. I hope it's not something that continues to plague them, but I don't know how you can look at the product that was on the field yesterday and not be just a bit disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 SDSU didn't help themselves yesterday. There were a LOT of dropped passes that would have resulted in first downs and big plays. We got lucky on those, and a good team will capitalize on our mistakes. we didn't get lucky...they were just that bad...that's why people can't say their offense carved up the D. Plus, I just watched it again on my DVR and a lot of those passes were forced by the QB because of the blitz. He had to either let it go early or at a weird angle. That's what pass rushing does, if it doesn't sack the QB, it at least makes the QB change the trajectory of the ball or just straight up get scared and throw it without any accuracy. IMO, any WR on any team couldn't catch those balls because of the pass rush the D implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchris555 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 We ran for 3.1 ypc against them. Michigan's defensive line is literally 10 times better than SDSU's. Literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdnd81 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 We ran for 3.1 ypc against them. Michigan's defensive line is literally 10 times better than SDSU's. Literally. Bingo ! the running sucked really bad, we should of had some runs of 30/40 yds+, just like cal poly southern state did last week. I hope that was just a first game thing, if not look for us to only win a couple games:twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Here's what I think, this was SDSU's "Bowl Game"! They were up for us (like everyone else that hardly ever gets to play the Irish). They gave us some fits in our first game and it was their 2nd. So they had at least one game to straighten out a few of their wrinkles. We were stone cold. It took us a while to get in a groove and start the engine (so to speak). Also, CW's teams are NOT "pound it" teams! We have the personnel for a finesse passing team that runs to open up the running lanes. CW played Quinn and Co. to their strengths and now that the OL is holding better, Jimmy's got a years experience and healthy, now that we have deep threats in Tate and Floyd. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET BACK TO OUR STRENGTHS! In the 4th quarter, I started seeing flashes of 2005. This is NOT Lou's power option personnel! There is no Bettis and such. We DO , however, have 3 very good backs! In '05, we mainly only had DW. In short, we need to start concentrating again on what CW does best and that's run the team like he did the '05, '06 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchris555 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Here's what I think, this was SDSU's "Bowl Game"! They were up for us (like everyone else that hardly ever gets to play the Irish). They gave us some fits in our first game and it was their 2nd. So they had at least one game to straighten out a few of their wrinkles. We were stone cold. It took us a while to get in a groove and start the engine (so to speak). Also, CW's teams are NOT "pound it" teams! We have the personnel for a finesse passing team that runs to open up the running lanes. CW played Quinn and Co. to their strengths and now that the OL is holding better, Jimmy's got a years experience and healthy, now that we have deep threats in Tate and Floyd. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET BACK TO OUR STRENGTHS! In the 4th quarter, I started seeing flashes of 2005. This is NOT Lou's power option personnel! There is no Bettis and such. We DO , however, have 3 very good backs! In '05, we mainly only had DW. In short, we need to start concentrating again on what CW does best and that's run the team like he did the '05, '06 teams. I'm tired of hearing about that "the other team was really up for this". That's the coaching staff's job to make sure we're up for it. This team is bad, we played badly, no way around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 I'm tired of hearing about that "the other team was really up for this". That's the coaching staff's job to make sure we're up for it. This team is bad, we played badly, no way around it. I agree! The coaching staff needs to make sure we are up for every game. But you cannot deny, that it does not take much for any opponent to be motivated to play the Irish in Notre Dame Stadium. Look, I am 42 years old and all the years I've ever seen (especially obviously lesser talented teams) come into Notre Dame Stadium, they are ALWAYS pumped and usually play their best football. It is what it is. Whether we suck or not, we are always getting that respective teams best game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Fence Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 tchris - I agree. No way in sugar coating this. The positive is that Michigan is also struggling now, so we might be able to steal one more before having to head to East Lansing to play what looks to be another tough MSU squad (for us). SDSU is a very bad team. They got carved up by a Cal Poly team and we really struggled at times running the ball. They had a patchwork defensive line. I guess the way I look at it is this - my expectations are always that I hope we play like a legit top 10 team. Look at Georgia who played what could have been a tough MAC squad in Central Michigan with their heisman hopeful QB. I thought CMU might give them fits, but being the highly ranked team UGA is, they pounded CMU. That is where I would like us to be in the future, but clearly we aren't there yet. Just going by this game alone, we look like maybe a .500 team right now. Maybe we shake off the dust and improve a few more percentage points, but that's what we look like now. There were some reasonable bright signs, but those bright signs look like a year or two off before they start turning into points on a scoreboard where when we play a team like this, it's 45-13 and not 21-13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdougal93 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I'm with tchris and D fence on this one. I don't care how many men SDSU had in the box our line averages over 300lbs and they could barely move this third rate Defense. Needless to say, I'm not very optimistic about this season. Hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I agree! The coaching staff needs to make sure we are up for every game. But you cannot deny, that it does not take much for any opponent to be motivated to play the Irish in Notre Dame Stadium. Look, I am 42 years old and all the years I've ever seen (especially obviously lesser talented teams) come into Notre Dame Stadium, they are ALWAYS pumped and usually play their best football. It is what it is. Whether we suck or not, we are always getting that respective teams best game! "You say, oh boy...but coach, the teams we play against are really fired up to play Notre Dame. I understand that...But HELLO! you get to represent Notre Dame, there's no greater motivating factor than to be able to represent the Fighting Irish!" Coach Holtz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND FANATIC Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I not quite ready to rush to judgement on the team yet. I watched the game for the 3rd time last night and one word comes to mind - sloppy. We left alot of points out on the field against SDSU-if we win this game 35-12 is everyone still all fired up? It looked to me like we were a team playing our first game of the year, and there was a little lack of confidence, especially in the first half, after what happened last year. Do we need to play better - absolutley. Can we play better - I believe so. I'm happy we won, I'm happy that we came through relatively injury free - lets move on to UM and see what we look like.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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