Choosing the Mayor of Wasilla, AK that has been a state governor less than 2 years? Holy cow, that is one of the worst political decisions I have ever seen. I just can't believe that somebody with as little experience has just been handed the #2 power spot in the country under what could be the oldest U.S. President ever elected.

Two year Governor of Alaska, take away the maternal leave, (she has a 6 month old child) and it's closer to 18 months as acting governor. She was the Mayor of a town with 9,000 population and was runner up as Miss Alaska twenty years back. McCain just threw away his experience argument, one heart attack if McCain is elected and she's President. Pro life and big hunter herself and pro drilling in the artic wildlife perserve area.

Choosing the Mayor of Wasilla, AK that has been a state governor less than 2 years? Holy cow, that is one of the worst political decisions I have ever seen. I just can't believe that somebody with as little experience has just been handed the #2 power spot in the country under what could be the oldest U.S. President ever elected.

 

 

I don't get it either. So to recap, we have a fossil running with a greenhorn no name Governer going up against a guy that has 163 days worth of experience in the US Senate.

 

On the count of three everybody yell YEEEEEEEAH!

 

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Has Sarah's friend/friends Bombed any US Buildings.... i don't know???

 

 

But i DO know for a fact that Barack Hussein Obama's friend Bill Ayers, although never convicted of any crime, he "bill" told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

 

I found that in the Washington Post.. And Hussein's wife frankly hates America, Oh well i think we are all screwed either way as Mccain is a old fart

 

BTW dome i thought Hussein only had 141 days experience..

Edited August 29, 200816 yr by tdnd81

And Hussein's wife frankly hates America,

 

 

Why would you say something like that ?

i don't think that this lady is a bad choice as they are thousands that don't want obama, i will wait and hear what they both have to say. this lady is a fighter, a hunter and soforth, as for now i will wait til i can evaluate her and obama some more, i think that she has a little more experience that obama as far as doing things. takes some smarts to run a city, and a state, sure she is young , but there isn't any thing wrong in that imo, i think we need to KNOW MORE . AS FOR MCCAIN AFTER ALL THAT HE HAS BEEN THROUGH, i think he has a edge at the moment, Obama talks good but i want to know where all the $$$$ is coming from to do what he says . still early imo, you don't have to be a smart guy , just have smart guys in the right positions helping you.

I sure wish Colin Powell wanted one of these jobs.

Palin has been a governor for less than 2 years. During that time she re-negotiated the corrupt deals with the government and oil companies, reduced the size of government and lowered taxes. She has a good record on conservation, supports gun rights and supports drilling in ANWR. She has administrative experience while B. Hussein Obama does not.

 

BTW, can anyone tell me what legislation B. Hussein Obama has sponsored in the Senate? Any other accomplishments while in the Senate? What is Obama's stance on drilling for oil?

 

This election like all other presidential elections is very important. It's unfortunate that all we have to choose from are McCain and Obama. Agree with you Rick that McCain's service record gives him the edge.

This choosing of a vice is complete smoke and mirrors. Usually it's a wait and react type of move based off demographics and what the other party's selling. If they're selling a product that America wants to buy, then so be it with the other party as well. A woman in power seemed far-fetched until Hillary. Now, it seems as though John wanted to "connect" with the same people who voted for her. As far as experience goes, who cares when it comes to the vice. What do they really do anyway? Every time you see one on TV they're cramming food down their throats at some international dinner. Perhaps she hunts quail as well?? Also, I want to be fair to Palin, I'm not saying she's the wrong choice, but maybe chosen for the wrong reasons. She might end up being a better vice than you think. She's also a lot hotter than the other vice-hopeful.

 

1.......2.......3.........Yeehaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!

This choosing of a vice is complete smoke and mirrors. Usually it's a wait and react type of move based off demographics and what the other party's selling. If they're selling a product that America wants to buy, then so be it with the other party as well. A woman in power seemed far-fetched until Hillary. Now, it seems as though John wanted to "connect" with the same people who voted for her. As far as experience goes, who cares when it comes to the vice. What do they really do anyway? Every time you see one on TV they're cramming food down their throats at some international dinner. Perhaps she hunts quail as well?? Also, I want to be fair to Palin, I'm not saying she's the wrong choice, but maybe chosen for the wrong reasons. She might end up being a better vice than you think. She's also a lot hotter than the other vice-hopeful.

 

1.......2.......3.........Yeehaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You're right about this pick being based off demographics. McCain is definitely going after the women's vote more specifically those voters that are upset about Hillary not being the nominee.

 

I never once thought that I would see a vice-presidential nominee or a presidential nominee for that matter, come from Alaska. That's ONE huge electoral vote out of 539.

guys I just don't want these differences to divide ND guys. i vote my way you vote yours in secrecy of the voting both. All else is air.

 

years ago I had a parrish priest who was widely know to be critial of the Arch Bishop. As it turned out on those yearly visits the Arch Bishop was to come for a day. I did ask as we prepared the church up, "Father how can you and he possibly co exist at Mass." He told me advice I never forgot. "We may cross swords or be enemies but around the table (Alter) we are ONE." That's what Notre Dame and America is our alter.

And Hussein's wife frankly hates America,

 

 

Why would you say something like that ?

 

 

Well Mud... At a speech in Milwaukee this week on behalf of her husband’s Democrat presidential campaign, Mrs. Obama remarked that “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.”

 

She didn't say she hates America..... But ^^^^^^^ that is her words not mine. A 40 something year old lady Has NEVER been proud of America untill obama is running for prez.??? Change Change Change.... If you want NO change if your pocket.... then vote for Hussein Obama

SJ, I don't see this dividing anyone yet. I think that the posters who have posted so far, have taken the high road and avoided personal attacks. Everyone understands that we all can vote differently, yet agree on Notre Dame. That's the beauty of "intelligent Notre Dame discussion".

Politics is just something we'll have to agree to disagree on if we allow it to be discussed on this site.

 

"If two people agree on everything then only one is doing the thinking." Lloyd Bentsen 1988.

 

What a great country America is that we can elect our leaders by voting instead of military men taking power by force. I saw two military coups take place before I was 9 years old. I'm forever grateful to God and my parents for bringing me here.

Agree to disagree, true but you only have to approach the hive before the hornerts come out. The Democratic party to me is the party that speaks for the little guy, the working man, the labours that build this country. The Republican party to me is the party of corporate business and vested interest, not that a democrat won't stick his peak into the same well, it's just that he doesn't wear it proudly on his sleeve, it's more a furtive thing. This might be a close race but one which Obama and Biden should win and pick up a majority in the Senate. Never before in my lifetime, I have witness the erosion and decline this country has suffered, from failing banks, mortagage crisis, the debacle that was FEMA and their handling in the aftermath of Katrina, the mismanagement of the war,the insufferable arrogance of this administration coupled with gross incompetence on nearly everything it touches, and a rebublican canditate that has walked in step ninety percent of the time in voting with it. McCain is not above using his prisoner of war experiences and his declaration thereof in every election he has entered in his political life, it tarnishes that experience when it's used as political fodder repeatly. Sarah Palin may very well turn out to be a plus for McCain, though had he picked Romney,he would have had a proven commodity experienced in business management, not a bad thing in these troubled times. I don't intend to respond to subsequent posts, these political discussions can turn ugly in a hurry, it's merely my personal opinion others see it differently, so be it.

As far as experience goes, who cares when it comes to the vice. What do they really do anyway?

 

Well...the Veep is important because they are #2 in line. So this 2 year Governor would be second in line behind a 72 year president. Yeah, that makes her significant. Oh, and in the spirit of piling on....That stain Nancy Pelosi is EVERYONE's #3 in line. Everyone talks about Bush's approval rating yet nobody mentions the Nancester's single digit approval rating congress. Didn't she promise a LOT when they were trying to get elephants to control Congress?

Well...the Veep is important because they are #2 in line. So this 2 year Governor would be second in line behind a 72 year president. Yeah, that makes her significant. Oh, and in the spirit of piling on....That stain Nancy Pelosi is EVERYONE's #3 in line. Everyone talks about Bush's approval rating yet nobody mentions the Nancester's single digit approval rating congress. Didn't she promise a LOT when they were trying to get elephants to control Congress?

 

Number 2 only matters when number 1 goes down. I understand the ranking totum pole, but if you look into it, it's more of a PC position. They don't make any pertinent decisions, they're basically there for insurance. (This is all moot if number 1 goes down, then we're all screwed)

My only concern here as to being an Admin now, is to keep it cool here in this fractured election year.

 

As a young mod I came down hard on some political talk here in OPEN. My boss then and owner Ryan reminded me OPEN here at the Domain was for "anything" ND talk or anything on your mind and again in this fractured election year that is the overrun topic till Bush is out for a couple months. Do get out and vote, so many do not. I've moved and put in two EMs to election office where do I vote? My opinions ignored my vote is still secret.

 

As long as it is said here in OPEN and stays here in OPEN and not spill over to General,

Recruiting. I am fine with it.

Good explanation SJ, like P-Diddy says, "vote or die".

Agree to disagree, true but you only have to approach the hive before the hornerts come out. The Democratic party to me is the party that speaks for the little guy, the working man, the labours that build this country. The Republican party to me is the party of corporate business and vested interest, not that a democrat won't stick his peak into the same well, it's just that he doesn't wear it proudly on his sleeve, it's more a furtive thing. This might be a close race but one which Obama and Biden should win and pick up a majority in the Senate. Never before in my lifetime, I have witness the erosion and decline this country has suffered, from failing banks, mortagage crisis, the debacle that was FEMA and their handling in the aftermath of Katrina, the mismanagement of the war,the insufferable arrogance of this administration coupled with gross incompetence on nearly everything it touches, and a rebublican canditate that has walked in step ninety percent of the time in voting with it. McCain is not above using his prisoner of war experiences and his declaration thereof in every election he has entered in his political life, it tarnishes that experience when it's used as political fodder repeatly. Sarah Palin may very well turn out to be a plus for McCain, though had he picked Romney,he would have had a proven commodity experienced in business management, not a bad thing in these troubled times. I don't intend to respond to subsequent posts, these political discussions can turn ugly in a hurry, it's merely my personal opinion others see it differently, so be it.

 

Never have you seen the the erosion and decline in this country? I remember Jimmy Carter. Remember the oil embargo? interest rates? unemployment twice what it is now?

 

Katrina? Bush's fault. Kathleen Blanco was the democratic governor of that state and she was finally defeated by Jindal. Ray "school bus" Nagin was the mayor of N.O. shouldn't he get some of the blame? Don't get me wrong, I don't think Bush has been a great president and Katrina was a mess but Dems exploited that disaster and made it a political issue. Did you hear anything coming out of Iowa during the floods? Anything out of San Diego when the fires took place?

 

I've heard the same thing about the Democrats being the party of the "little guy." The party of Kennedy, Corzine, Lautenberg, Feinstein, Jay Rockefeller, Hollywood, Gore, Soros, Michael Moore, etc.. Nothing but a bunch of rich people to me.

 

As far as McCain using his POW experience, I think it speaks to his level of commitment to his country and the men he served with. He suffered though some torture, real torture at the hands of the Vietnamese. By real torture I don't mean waterboarding. He had his arms and shoulders broken, most of his teeth knocked out, beaten, starved.

 

I remember John Kerry mentioning something about his war experience during the last election. He even "reported to duty" when he accepted his nomination. Did you know he served in Vietnam;) Might come as a shock to most because he barely mentioned it....../sarc

 

Mud, I'll go out on a limb here and say that we normally vote for opposite candidates. Like I said that's the beauty of this country. I respect your opinion and I guess the one thing we do agree on is our love for ND.

Good explanation SJ, like P-Diddy says, "vote or die".

 

 

LOL. Half the country didn't vote in the last election.