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I am just wondering how anyone would think our record would be different this year if Pete Carroll was our Head Coach.

 

What would be different if everything was the same except Petey was the coach?

 

I say nothing and, in fact, I believe we may have went 0-12 but if you think Petey would have done things differently,,,

 

what would those things have been?

 

I believe CW is still a great coach and just needs to learn from his mistakes. Time will tell.

 

Just wondering if you think the "supposed" best coach in college football would have done any better with this same team in the same situations.

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Guest fighton2007

Here's a brief list off the top of my head of what I think Pete Carroll would have done differently:

 

1. Zone blocking - it's a lot easier to learn, easier to teach, and easier to recruit for.

 

2. Fall camp and all other practices would be full contact - physical and intense practices are the norm at SC.

 

3. He would've played more underclassmen in the previous years during some of the blowouts.

 

4. No change to a 3-4 defense. ND's change to a 3-4 defense set you guys back 1-2 years defensively, although it may be better in the future (take 1 step back to go 2 steps forward).

 

5. He would've gone for the FGs against Navy in both the 1st quarter and the 4th quarter. :wink:

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In my opinion, we could have (INSERT NAME OF YOUR CHOICE OF GREATEST COACH ALIVE) and it would not have made more than a 2-3 win difference. Tops.

 

Maybe another coach would have been able to get a win against Purdue, Air Force or Navy. The Academy games were both winnable in my opinion, although I don't want to take anything away from Navy. Let's say 3 games for arguments sake.

 

This is still a 6 win team at best. And that's assuming whoever the head coach was, he implemented a near perfect game plan that took into account all of the team's weaknesses and took advantage of their few areas of strength.

 

Ultimately, I think Charlie handled the QB situation at the beginning of the season wrong and it cost us the GT game and some confidence. His options were Demetrius Jones (who he didn't trust to throw the ball), Jimmy Clausen who's arm was still healing from surgery or Evan Sharpley who could manage a game well but was not overly impressive in any one area.

 

Charlie thought he was going to pull a little cloak and dagger and install the spread offense real fast and take the YellowJackets by surprise. It didn't work. Jones was not ready for prime time and he was clearly a turnover machine. When Charlie sat him, he pouted on the bench and then he transferred. The bottom line is that once the plan failed, there really was no "plan B" to implement... The blame is completely on Weis for that.

 

The only other item that I feel Charlie mishandled is the preparation for this season. Clearly he got spoiled by guys like Brady Quinn who were students of the game and dedicated mentally and physically to learning and winning. He didn't make the adjustment to dealing with underclassmen and it hurt the character toughness of the Irish as a team.

 

Ultimately though, I don't think that Weis being more physically demanding in preparation for this season would have made a difference in the win/loss column. Not really.

 

Like I said, another coach might have been able to turn Air Force or Purdue into a win. Maybe another coach would have been more physically demanding of the team leading up to the season and it would have made a difference in those game. At the end of the day though, it's the lack of talent that killed this team.

 

Just my opinion.

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I started having a very similar discussion with my brother, who lives in Tampa. His question was, "you guys tried to land Urban Meyer and didn't. How do you think you would have done if you did and he was on your team now?"

 

Tough question to answer and probably moot, but I agree with colonial that there may have been only 1-2 game improvement this year at best. You wonder if JC would be there to run a spread "O", definitely no Hughes and probably a whole different mix of skill players.

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Ultimately though, I don't think that Weis being more physically demanding in preparation for this season would have made a difference in the win/loss column. Not really.

 

I am not sure I agree with this...you may be correct in difference in wins and losses but I do think we would have been a bit more competitive in some of the earlier games.

 

I was pretty shocked when I first learned that there was minimal contact in the fall. I am not sure how anyone could expect this to be a "Nasty" football team when they haven't practiced that way.

 

Practice doesn't make perfect, it makes permanent, and that was certainly shown true in this last season.

 

-B

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Ultimately though, I don't think that Weis being more physically demanding in preparation for this season would have made a difference in the win/loss column. Not really.

 

I am not sure I agree with this...you may be correct in difference in wins and losses but I do think we would have been a bit more competitive in some of the earlier games.

 

I was pretty shocked when I first learned that there was minimal contact in the fall. I am not sure how anyone could expect this to be a "Nasty" football team when they haven't practiced that way.

 

Practice doesn't make perfect, it makes permanent, and that was certainly shown true in this last season.

-B

"good practice" makes near perfect. you're right, they sure didn't implement that..........
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fighton............you forgot to mention numbers 6 & 7.

 

6. SC accepts junior college transfers.

 

7. SC's admission standards are far lower than N.D's, ( obviously allows them to take superior athletes who struggle in the classroom).

 

P.S................number 7 alone, would be the main reason that Petey would never accept the job...........even if he was offered. It's also the main reason that Urbie would never take the job............& probably why he really didn't also!

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fighton............you forgot to mention numbers 6 & 7.

 

6. SC accepts junior college transfers.

 

7. SC's admission standards are far lower than N.D's, ( obviously allows them to take superior athletes who struggle in the classroom).

 

P.S................number 7 alone, would be the main reason that Petey would never accept the job...........even if he was offered. It's also the main reason that Urbie would never take the job............& probably why he really didn't also!

you're right. it is exactly why urbie didn't take the job......
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I think everyone agrees that PC is a perfect fit for L.A. His style probably wouldnt be as accepted at a more conservative place like ND.

 

Yes - we take JC's just like almost everyone else, but we take very few of them. The admission standards for JC players are a lot higher at SC than at most schools. There's a reason why we can't offer Simi Kuli, who wants to come to SC and plays a position of need.

 

And as far as SC's standards compared to ND's, there's not as big a difference as you think. SC is not the SEC, which takes anyone that passes the NCAA clearinghouse. SC has its own set of standards and the guys who have carried SC to greatness in the past 7 years under PC would have all gotten into ND as well.

 

BTW, this is a serious question - were exceptions made for Armando Allen? I thought I heard something about that...

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Actually, Dwayne Jarrett (if he is to be believed) said that ND turned him down, hence his glee at embarrassing ND when they played in L.A. last year. Nonetheless, it really doesn't matter. ND's academic hurdles are their problem, not USC's. The rigorous standard is self-inflicted, so I have no sympathy for ND on this issue. If you don't like it, then change it. If you don't want to change it, then stop complaining about it. As long as NCAA rules are followed (USC :lol: USC :lol: ) then no team has to explain their players to ND or its fan base.

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BTW, this is a serious question - were exceptions made for Armando Allen? I thought I heard something about that...

 

Not academically, only for EE (sorry, Early Enroll). Allen was hurt his senior season and wanted EE to help rehab the injury, he wanted to use whatever school he chose facilities to help prepare for his freshman season.

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