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FOR NOTRE DAME TO SUCCEED IN 2008 they will need a COACHING STAFF THAT IS DEDICATED TO WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES.

 

Thanks for the post Sherlock! This has been said on numerous occasions. But if changes are to be made, these are your prime suspects: LATINA needs to go! Polian, GONE. Lewis, don't let the door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya! Mendoza, adios amigo. Powlus, maybe? I would say Haywood too, but he doesn't get to call the plays, even though his title is Offensive Coordinator.

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FOR NOTRE DAME TO SUCCEED IN 2008 they will need a COACHING STAFF THAT IS DEDICATED TO WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES.

 

Thanks for the post Sherlock! This has been said on numerous occasions. But if changes are to be made, these are your prime suspects: LATINA needs to go! Polian, GONE. Lewis, don't let the door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya! Mendoza, adios amigo. Powlus, maybe? I would say Haywood too, but he doesn't get to call the plays, even though his title is Offensive Coordinator.

 

Never happen, and honestly I hope it doesn't Letting that many guys go would not only really negatively affect the team, but also negatively effect the ability to hire new coaches. Not to mention reflect really badly on Coach Weis.

 

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FOR NOTRE DAME TO SUCCEED IN 2008 they will need a COACHING STAFF THAT IS DEDICATED TO WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES.

 

Thanks for the post Sherlock! This has been said on numerous occasions. But if changes are to be made, these are your prime suspects: LATINA needs to go! Polian, GONE. Lewis, don't let the door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya! Mendoza, adios amigo. Powlus, maybe? I would say Haywood too, but he doesn't get to call the plays, even though his title is Offensive Coordinator.

 

Never happen, and honestly I hope it doesn't Letting that many guys go would not only really negatively affect the team, but also negatively effect the ability to hire new coaches. Not to mention reflect really badly on Coach Weis.

 

-Batch

 

So you want to retain all the coaches? If not, which ones would you like to see go?

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FOR NOTRE DAME TO SUCCEED IN 2008 they will need a COACHING STAFF THAT IS DEDICATED TO WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES.

 

Thanks for the post Sherlock! This has been said on numerous occasions. But if changes are to be made, these are your prime suspects: LATINA needs to go! Polian, GONE. Lewis, don't let the door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya! Mendoza, adios amigo. Powlus, maybe? I would say Haywood too, but he doesn't get to call the plays, even though his title is Offensive Coordinator.

 

Never happen, and honestly I hope it doesn't Letting that many guys go would not only really negatively affect the team, but also negatively effect the ability to hire new coaches. Not to mention reflect really badly on Coach Weis.

 

-Batch

 

So you want to retain all the coaches? If not, which ones would you like to see go?

 

Oh I think Latina will be gone, like everyone else. Mendoza maybe, but you have to remember Coach Weis is the one that set the standards for strength and conditioning and by every report all the kids met those standards. Polian maybe..., Lewis!?! Based on statistics I would say NO WAY!! Last I checked about two weeks ago, our pass defense was the only thing that was a huge bright spot, and they were ranked 4th in the nation...but then again I really do think that is an anomoly since teams pound it on us and then just throw for the score...so maybe I shouldn't say NO WAY, you could be right.

 

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Actually they are 7th in the nation. But why would you pass on them when the Irish can't stop the run? And when teams do pass, they have been fairly successful. Navy, for instance, which has one of the worst passing offenses were able to win the game via the air. All I'm saying is that all the defensive backs, except Darrin Walls (saving grace), do not turn around to look for the ball. That is due to poor technique and coaching. Lewis might be a nice man, and have a buttload of credentials on his resume, but he has to go. No excuses whatsoever!

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See my edited post...I agree with you...

 

No harm, no foul. I just think we could get some better assistants in here that can teach fundamentals, technique and recruit better on a regular basis than the ones listed above.

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and recruit better on a regular basis than the ones listed above.

 

 

Huh? Care to explain how the coaches in place are not recruiting their a$$ off?

 

I'm referring to Latina, Lewis, Polian, and Mendoza. The other coaches, mainly Corwin Brown and Coach Weis have done the extent of getting the recruits in. Polian hasn't done a bad job either, but his ineptness in coaching special teams shows the last two years. Latina can't coach himself out of a paper bag. Mendoza just needs to go, period. And Bill Lewis is a great man, but he can't teach his guys to turn around to look for the ball (except Darrin Walls).

 

I think you need to re-read the whole posts again to see why I said that.

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So when I look at the Rivals commitment page and see that Lewis, Latina, Polian, Ianello, Haywood helped reel in the likes of Floyd, Clelland, Cwynar, and Filer, am I supposed to ingore that?

 

I can see where you are going with the coaching/technique/fundamental angle, but to say that they could recruit better is just flat out ridiculous. These guys lay much of the groundwork in terms of recruiting, it is then that CB and CW come in and close on the commitment.

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So when I look at the Rivals commitment page and see that Lewis, Latina, Polian, Ianello, Haywood helped reel in the likes of Floyd, Clelland, Cwynar, and Filer, am I supposed to ingore that?

 

I can see where you are going with the coaching/technique/fundamental angle, but to say that they could recruit better is just flat out ridiculous. These guys lay much of the groundwork in terms of recruiting, it is then that CB and CW come in and close on the commitment.

 

I was referring to getting assistants that can not only coach, but recruit as well. Ianello should only be the recruiting coordinator, not a receivers coach. He doesn't bring anything to the table in teaching his receivers to break off the line quick enough. I already stated about Polian and his special teams, and also Lewis. Filer and Cwynar were Corwin's guys, make no bones about it. They are Chicago kids, and that's CB's hot bed. I'm still not sure about Haywood, because he doesn't get to call any plays. I should have stated my post better, but all I'm saying is that we need better coaches that can actually get the team to succeed and also ones that can recruit.

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befroe we start firing the entire staff lets wait to see what happens in '08 when CW has three full recruiting class in at ND.

 

I'm not saying the entire staff, but Latina, Polian, Mendoza and Lewis need to go.

 

Parmalee, Oliver, Haywood, and Powlus should stay IMO. As well as Coach Weis, of course.

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I understand your frustration bew, but no team ever fires half of their coaching staff.

Latina should be gone and probably will be.

Almost all of our problems this year can be traced back to the horrible play of the O line.

It's true that Wooden and Ambrose never turn around and look for the ball in coverage, but I don't think that's a coaching problem.

These guys aren't capable of playing great defense because they aren't great players.

You can't coach that.

Let's let the tide of emotions quell, and then with levels heads in the offseason let Charlie say who's coming and who's going.

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I understand your frustration bew, but no team ever fires half of their coaching staff.

Latina should be gone and probably will be.

Almost all of our problems this year can be traced back to the horrible play of the O line.

It's true that Wooden and Ambrose never turn around and look for the ball in coverage, but I don't think that's a coaching problem.

These guys aren't capable of playing great defense because they aren't great players.

You can't coach that.

Let's let the tide of emotions quell, and then with levels heads in the offseason let Charlie say who's coming and who's going.

 

Ambrose Wooden is one guy. I think the other one you are referring to is Terrail Lambert.

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I here what your screaming bew. My only problem is that you keep saying we need to replace these coaches which I may agree with but who would you replace them with? Criticizm is absolutely ok but lets talk solutions. I'm not really on the up and up when it comes to available assistants so I have no clue.

 

Peace and love to Midgets! :lol:

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I here what your screaming bew. My only problem is that you keep saying we need to replace these coaches which I may agree with but who would you replace them with? Criticizm is absolutely ok but lets talk solutions. I'm not really on the up and up when it comes to available assistants so I have no clue.

 

Peace and love to Midgets! :lol:

 

Offensive Line: Andy Heck (Jacksonville, NFL) He also coached at UVa.

 

Offensive Coordinator (if we go that route which I don't think we will): Dan Mullen (Florida) he was a grad assistant under Davie

 

Defensive Backs: Doug Mallory (LSU) son of former IU coach Bill Mallory. Has ties to the Midwest and an excellent recruiter.

 

Strength and Conditioning: Jeff Madden (Texas) another Midwest guy that is good friends with Corwin Brown and Mike Haywood.

 

Special Teams: Tom Osborne (Oregon)

 

Receivers Coach: Brent Pease (Boise State)

 

Osborne and Pease are not household names, but are excellent coaches that can get the job done.

 

Heck, Mallory, and Madden do have a connection with the Midwest and Notre Dame. They are not only great coaches and teachers, but they can also get the job done in recruiting too!

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I understand your frustration bew, but no team ever fires half of their coaching staff.

Latina should be gone and probably will be.

Almost all of our problems this year can be traced back to the horrible play of the O line.

It's true that Wooden and Ambrose never turn around and look for the ball in coverage, but I don't think that's a coaching problem.

These guys aren't capable of playing great defense because they aren't great players.

You can't coach that.

Let's let the tide of emotions quell, and then with levels heads in the offseason let Charlie say who's coming and who's going.

 

Ambrose Wooden is one guy. I think the other one you are referring to is Terrail Lambert.

Oops, my bad. I meant Terrail.

They sort of blur into each other as the seasons pass.

I don't know how we have acheived so much with these two corners the past few years.

It was hard to watch Ambrose start over Walls last year.

 

The thing I don't understand about Lambert is he was so highly recruited out of St. Bonnys.

He was the best player in that class in most peoples opinion. A bad class, but still the best player.

I just have never seen improvement in either of them.

I've never seen players that are consistently unable to look into the backfield and make a play on the ball.

The worst part is that Wooden is one of the nicest guys in the world.

 

I wish them luck in their futures, and now it's time to get to our futures.

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