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Impact of the Class of 08' recruits as true freshman.


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Of course Im as upset about yesterday as everyone else. But im one in the "Dont fire Weis, bc hes still a great coach camp"

But I was looking at it, and what incoming freshman do you think will make an impact and get lots of playing time as freshman of those commited right now

 

My opinion is..

Ethan Johnson, Omar Hunter and Sean Cwynar. With Laws, Stevenson, and J. Brown leaving this opens a gap up for the young DL. And all of these guys are phycially big enough to hold up in college games right now. And Cwynar and Hunter have seemed to be unblockable so far this year.

 

 

Micheal Flyod. I think hes such a playmaker that he will have to get on the field. With Kamara, Tate and the other receivers returning Flyod will get alot of 1 v 1 matchups.

 

Daruis Fleming and Steve Filer. With our graduating LB I think that these two will make an impact next year much like K. Neal and B. Smith are making now. I think Fleming will be out big 3-4 LB pass rusher from the LB position.

 

What do you all think?

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i think McDonald will be a huge addition, we do not have any large LB mold's that have good speed. Ryan is big but slow as molassas and crum is undersized. Joe Brockington should not be starting at Notre Dame. I think our young LB's will take over every position besides Mo Crum. I hope Toryan Smith can become a stud run stopper. That Navy O really showed the weakness in our LB corps.

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I would like to see Brown come back. He has made some good plays this year and would provide some depth. I think that Cwyner has a good chance at some pt as well as Hunter. I think we might see either Slaughter or Blanton in as a nickel because of their tackling ability. I would also expect Flemming to get reps as well as Filer in the OLB spot initially. On offense I think we can expect to see Floyd and perhaps Rudolph. If we got Walker I would say we could see him on punt returns and offense as well. I don't want us to play any freshman OL next year.

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Adding Blanton and Slaughter to that mix of Walls, McNeil and Gary Gray and that is a very good core.

 

I think with Carlson leaving Rudolph will jump right in there at TE and someone like Cave will probably quickly be in the 2-deep, probably at RG early on.

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i like our '08 class but how many times do you see freshmen come in and start playing lights out football. their are some guys that will see playing time but i don't expect them to come in and turn around ND football in one season. michael floyd is the one player who i think can have a really good freshmen year.

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Diego,

 

Glad someone besides me noticed Brockington as someone that should not be on the field. I have been saying this for three years on A. Wooden but he now matter how poorly he plays he never leaves the field. Brockinton Saturday was as bad as it gets.

 

On the freshmen its hard not to get excited about this group but they are just freshmen that hopefully will be the start of correcting the current mess.

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"Diego,

Glad someone besides me noticed Brockington as someone that should not be on the field. I have been saying this for three years on A. Wooden but he now matter how poorly he plays he never leaves the field. Brockinton Saturday was as bad as it gets. "

 

Are you kidding me... he has been doing great this year and is one of our leading tacklers, besides no one linebacker is going to stop navys offense...not any linebacking trio for that matter. its just to hard to stop. thats why they average over 300 yards of rushing a game

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Hmmm...this is a hard one for me. I think Joe has played beyond his athletic ability and skill level this year and last, but he is by no means an elite D1 linebacker, but at this point he is the best we have. He plays with heart and makes a lot of plays, but he misses a lot too.

 

One of the most frustrating things while watching that game, especially in slow motion replays was how our linebacking core would just get dominated by wide receivers and slot backs. They absolutely could not get off those blocks on a consistant basis. If you can't shed a block from a 5'10", 180 lb blocker, how can you shed a block from a 6'6", 300 lb lineman?

 

Also, where the heck was Kerry Neal on Saturday, I don't think I saw him once.

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Hmmm...this is a hard one for me. I think Joe has played beyond his athletic ability and skill level this year and last, but he is by no means an elite D1 linebacker, but at this point he is the best we have. He plays with heart and makes a lot of plays, but he misses a lot too.

 

One of the most frustrating things while watching that game, especially in slow motion replays was how our linebacking core would just get dominated by wide receivers and slot backs. They absolutely could not get off those blocks on a consistant basis. If you can't shed a block from a 5'10", 180 lb blocker, how can you shed a block from a 6'6", 300 lb lineman?

 

Also, where the heck was Kerry Neal on Saturday, I don't think I saw him once.

 

Definitely agree with you about Brockington. I think the whole entire linebacker core is trying their hardest, they are just not that talented. Except for Neal and Smith they just need to get stronger and more experienced.

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i like our '08 class but how many times do you see freshmen come in and start playing lights out football. their are some guys that will see playing time but i don't expect them to come in and turn around ND football in one season.

 

 

Exactly, anyone expecting a lot of these kids to have a big impact right away is setting up for a disapointment.

 

Spots will be open on the DL and LB for instant impact. WR/RB/TE can play right away but they have a long ways to climb on the depth chart.

 

OL and DBs probably wont play much at all.

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Freshmen can make significant contributions but they have to have established, experienced players around them in most circumstances. It's hard to say if we will have that or not. We will have some experience but will that experience translate to leadership and support for the younger players? Let's not hope this year is an indication.

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Given that we will only have 3 open slots... I would not count on alot of Freshman starting. On the DL I think Kuntz, Williams will split alot of the time at NG. At the ends, you could see a player like Cwynar or Ethan Johnson win a starting spot but more likely would be to see them backing up Brown and someone else (Hand? Mullen?). Ideally ND can rotate 6+ players through on the DLine to keep everyone fresh. It is safe to say that LB will be B. Smith, K. Neal and Crum. A middle LB like Filer or McDonald would have the best chance to start but will likely back up whomever wins that spot. The DBs would seem to be Bruton and McCarthy at safety with Walls and Lambert at CB. Then you have McNeil, Prince and Grey.

 

Offensively, I would expect Wegner to slide to Center and Yeatman to start at TE, though I expect you will see Ragone and Rudolph on the field regularly.

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