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Guest IrishTobey

Did anybody catch what Tommy Tubberville said about espn and the former college football coaches who are now analyst? He basically threw them all under the bus. Said they didn't know anything b/c they were all fired and that Lou Holtz never could beat anybody in the SEC. I think he's partially right. Davie, Corso, Jim Donnan, etc... are there b/c they did not succeed as head coaches. He nailed that one. I don't think it was smart to lump Holtz in there with those guys considering he won a National Championship but it was enlightening to hear him say that. He also said espn has to much power and i think there is some truth in that too. I'm sure he's not the only one who feels that way he just had the balls or maybe stupidity to say it. IMO espn has become just like everybody else in the media. They never let the truth get in the way of a good story or a good angle on the story. Look no further than the firing of Ty. Anyway just wondered what the rest of the folks on here thought about his remarks.

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Guest SirJohn

I didn't catch that Tobey but like you I am down on these 'has been' losing Chaches explaining the game. Toss in ex Jock players. It's all got a WWF Circus atmosphere now. More personalities then issues or facts.


It's a shame but it is all 'showbiz' now. Even the print mediaq get into it with things like "It will be an air show with defense an afterthought." If defense is an after thought my team just lost that game right there.


I only get broadcast but if I hear the word under rated one more time Argahhhhhhhh :roll: Anotre might be "Talk about..... followed in a minute by Talk about.........." No one was talking about a player or whatever till the guy opened his mouth.

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Guest Snatchy_McPants

Tobey, did those comments come from an article or from a TV appearance? Just curious because I'd like to get a look for myself.


Couple of things:


He is right about the announcers, and apparently others in the media agree. Here's an excerpt from FOX Sports this morning:

The C.O.W. airing of the grievances followed by the feats of strength

The ten ways the world has disappointed me this week …


10. BCS rankings

For those of you keeping score at home, LSU was sixth in the initial BCS rankings, beat a better-than-you-think Auburn team, and moved down to eighth. Miami, didn’t play anyone thanks to Wilma, and moved from eight to seven. I know, I know, the BCS is about the big picture and not just one week, but what’s the point of releasing the rankings now if they really aren’t indicative of what the final rankings will really be?


9. Lucky Charms and getting old

There was a time not too long ago when my morning routine consisted of three bowls of Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs and the sports section. Something strange happened over the last few months; I can’t do sugared cereals anymore. Like the “I can’t taste my beer ads”, that was me out in the street last Wednesday crying that my Lucky Charms were too sweet.


8. Announcers, led by Bob Davie, confusing college and pro rules

Davie is a fantastic color man, but he appeared a bit confused during Saturday night’s call of the Auburn-LSU game not remembering that a player is down when he hits the turf, even if he’s untouched. Other announcers made this mistake as well this weekend. Davie and Ron Franklin also blew it by questioning why LSU would choose the student end of the stadium in overtime rather than take the wind, forgetting that both teams would have to go into the same end zone.


7. A turnover on fourth down counting in the stats

The ball is changing possession anyway, so should it technically be counted as a turnover if you throw a pick or lose a fumble on fourth down? An interception 25 yards down the field is a plus compared to simply handing it over where the ball was snapped.


6. Suggesting that the “loss of down” part of an intentional grounding penalty hurts

It happens on every intentional grounding call. The official calls the yardage, and then signals the loss of down, and then the announcer says how the loss of down part is the real killer. Actually, it’s not. It would’ve been the same down anyway with or without the penalty, the offense just loses yards.


5. Allstate field goal netting

A picture of pitchman Pedro Cerrano in the webbing of the field goal nets would probably be more useful.


4. Country music

It’s a simple transition. Instead of the Tim McGraw thing at halftime of Monday Night Football, play the old MNF music that used to play behind Howard Cosell’s description of the highlights. Instead of Big ‘n’ Rich putting me in a grouchy mood every Saturday morning, just play two minutes of the fight song from whatever cit-tay/school the GameDay crew is at.


3. Nebraska throwing the ball

You’re watching a Nebraska game and you see the wonderful “N” helmets, the big line, and the speedy looking running backs, and then you see passes. Lots of passes. Nebraska was held to -2 yards rushing against Missouri in yet another loss under Bill Callahan. Meanwhile, Frank Solich’s Ohio team ran for 414 yards in the win over Ball State.


2. “You’re hurting recruiting”

It’s an unfortunate fact of college football life that unless you’re Tommy Bowden, once a coach is on the hot seat, it’s over. The last act of desperation coaches use to get the media and fans to stop the criticism is to say the negativity is hurting recruiting. No, a lousy football team is the problem.


1. Not being able to review pass interference

Judgment call, schmudgment call. If a receiver pushes off to gain a clear advantage to catch the ball, it should be subject to review. Alabama’s D.J. Hall clearly got away with a shove on the 43-yard catch against Tennessee changing the outcome of the game, the SEC race, and possibly, the national title race. Washington State’s Jason Hall clearly pushed off on one of his three touchdown catches against Cal. Numerous other receivers did the same thing with a little tap to gain just enough separation to make a big catch. While you don’t want replay halting and reviewing every play, there’s no reason this couldn’t be called from above on the game-changing catches.


Trying to talk bad about Holtz? He's out of his mind. Why don't YOU accomplish something before running your mouth TT. By the way, wasn't that little school called ALABAMA part of the SEC? Hmm..........

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Guest IrishTobey

From what i understand he said it at QB luncheon or some type of luncheon and he didn't think that any reporters where there. Apparently there was so now it's Tuberville's word against the reporter. In defense of Tuberville i can certainly see how he would be joking around about some of the coaches on espn and have it reported that he was bashing them. I sure hope he wasn't serious about Holtz. Remember the 90 sugar bowl against #4 Florida anybody?? I would say he more than held his own agianst the best the SEC had to offer and that was a down year for ND that year. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, Holtz was one of the best coaches Arkansas ever had. You guys are right about the announcers. They seem to make less and less sense and have less and less credibility. Trev Alberts anybody.

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