"Big play" study - Plays that gain 25 yards or more

[FaithInIrish Forever 4,647]

@jbrown_9999 back when you and I did the BK offensive study. you found the numbers for like 20+ yard plays in a season.  Do you remember where you found it? I feel like with all the tight ends in the game ND's number of big plays was down last year.

 

Hypothesis: Sam Hartman will help ND achieve more 20+ pass plays this year.

 

Members: can you help me find Data from either Sam's career or ND's recent baseline to prove or disprove this hypothesis?

 

[FaithInIrish Forever 4,647]

Found it @jbrown_9999 sorry to bother you my friend

 

Pass plays of 25 yards or more

2022: 28

2021: 32

2020: 25

2019: 36

2018:  31

http://cfbstats.com/2021/team/513/passing/offense/situational.html

 

 

[jessemoore97 1,270]

At work.  Seem to recall that SH had a fair number due in part to the slow mesh RPO where the safeties were froze or moved up thinking run.  Thereby opening routes over the top without safety help.

[FaithInIrish Forever 4,647]

Wake Forest

Pass plays of 25 yards or more

2022: 39

2021: 47

2020: 31

2019: 44

2018: 32

http://cfbstats.com/2022/team/749/passing/offense/situational.html

[FaithInIrish Forever 4,647]

Average big pass plays

ND: 28+32+25+36+31/5= 152/5 =30.4

 

WF: 39+47+31+44+32/5= 193/5=  38.6

 

[jessemoore97 1,270]

Just going on record I look at this and see big ASS plays lol.  Actually like the ring of it myself, going to keep track of BAP from now on ha.

[FaithInIrish Forever 4,647]

1 minute ago, jessemoore97 said:

Just going on record I look at this and see big ASS plays lol.  Actually like the ring of it myself, going to keep track of BAP from now on ha.

It does look like Sam Hartman's teams overall had over  8 more big plays per season on average then Notre Dame did.

[jbrown_9999 1,003]

When was the last time that ND had a QB who consistently threw downfield? Kizer?

 

(BTW, @FaithInIrish Forever glad you found the numbers)

Edited March 16, 2023 by jbrown_9999

[FaithInIrish Forever 4,647]

So I wanted to see  if big plays matter

UGA 45 in 2022

Alabama 51 in 2021

Looks like they do. Who won in 2020? What year was Burrow at LSU?

[jessemoore97 1,270]

1 hour ago, FaithInIrish Forever said:

So I wanted to see  if big plays matter

UGA 45 in 2022

Alabama 51 in 2021

Looks like they do. Who won in 2020? What year was Burrow at LSU?

Burrow was '19 I think.  And to be clear big pass plays don't need to be bombs on go routes.  Like jbrown mentioned Kizer was the last QB who had the arm and accuracy to push the ball downfield.  I don't mind seeing short and intermediate routes where we exploit a D's coverage and a WR breaks free and is wide open for a BAP.  We've seen it happen every game, however our QBs tend to lock onto one receiver and don't go through their progressions and see the uncovered guy.  I'm hoping that a dedicated QB coach can help with that.  Hartman should have a head up in that one category alone, but we really need to develope the other guys in the room.

[FaithInIrish Forever 4,647]

2 hours ago, jessemoore97 said:

Burrow was '19 I think.  And to be clear big pass plays don't need to be bombs on go routes.  Like jbrown mentioned Kizer was the last QB who had the arm and accuracy to push the ball downfield.  I don't mind seeing short and intermediate routes where we exploit a D's coverage and a WR breaks free and is wide open for a BAP.  We've seen it happen every game, however our QBs tend to lock onto one receiver and don't go through their progressions and see the uncovered guy.  I'm hoping that a dedicated QB coach can help with that.  Hartman should have a head up in that one category alone, but we really need to develope the other guys in the room.

in 2019 LSU had 60 pass plays of 25 yards plus. This year LSU had only 26, could not help myself.

http://cfbstats.com/2022/team/365/passing/offense/situational.html

You are correct screen passes can go 25 yards and still be included in this statistic.

[FaithInIrish Forever 4,647]

Georgia was 3rd

Wake Forest was 17

Notre Dame was 44th in 2022

 

http://cfbstats.com/2022/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category32/sort02.html

 20 yard plus pass plays