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'24 MI QB CJ Carr [ND Verbal]


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58 minutes ago, coltssb said:

I’ll say this. The man seems accurate. However, I didn’t like the offense. This looked a lot like Ian Book and ND’s offense. Waiting. Waiting. Waiting. Running around looking for someone to throw to the. Bam. I am not in favor of this if that’s what the next four years will be. I know crying about a five star qb. I just didn’t enjoy the playground football as much with Book. Yes, I know he won a lot. But when it came to the big boys Book was anemic.  

Well hopefully a few of those things will be changed in the offense.  HH back coaching the line.  Alexander gone as WR coach.  Part of Book's problem as a passer IMO was his inability to see over the line and hit the middle routes, think TE seam.  Also I think Kelly was about limiting turnovers and having a QB with some shortcomings like height and being unable to go through progressions feeds into that.  Book was hardly the only BK era QB who locked in on his primary WR and had trouble seeing players running uncovered on routes.  Somewhat fortunate that outside of Rees and Coan most of our QBs have been running threats.  Going forward I really want to see progression of our QBs abilities as they get older, and not the regression or stagnation of their learning and ability.  That's all on Tommy now.

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7 minutes ago, jessemoore97 said:

Well hopefully a few of those things will be changed in the offense.  HH back coaching the line.  Alexander gone as WR coach.  Part of Book's problem as a passer IMO was his inability to see over the line and hit the middle routes, think TE seam.  Also I think Kelly was about limiting turnovers and having a QB with some shortcomings like height and being unable to go through progressions feeds into that.  Book was hardly the only BK era QB who locked in on his primary WR and had trouble seeing players running uncovered on routes.  Somewhat fortunate that outside of Rees and Coan most of our QBs have been running threats.  Going forward I really want to see progression of our QBs abilities as they get older, and not the regression or stagnation of their learning and ability.  That's all on Tommy now.

Yes, Jesse, It sure would be nice to our QB’s get better year to year!

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9 minutes ago, jessemoore97 said:

Well hopefully a few of those things will be changed in the offense.  HH back coaching the line.  Alexander gone as WR coach.  Part of Book's problem as a passer IMO was his inability to see over the line and hit the middle routes, think TE seam.  Also I think Kelly was about limiting turnovers and having a QB with some shortcomings like height and being unable to go through progressions feeds into that.  Book was hardly the only BK era QB who locked in on his primary WR and had trouble seeing players running uncovered on routes.  Somewhat fortunate that outside of Rees and Coan most of our QBs have been running threats.  Going forward I really want to see progression of our QBs abilities as they get older, and not the regression or stagnation of their learning and ability.  That's all on Tommy now.

It seems that Kelly fancied himself a QB whisperer but did he really deserve such a label? He played LB at a Div III school, coached on defense until he became a HC. But somewhere along the line, he became an offensive genus. He probably picked the brains of some of his early OCs like Charlie Molnar and Chuck Martin.

In any case, to get this thread back on topic, sometimes a QB like Carr is hampered by the talent and coaching at his high school. Our local high school is going to be very weak at OL this year. As a result, the QB will probably look much worse than he did last year as a junior. I can see him running around looking for someone to throw to due to lack of good protection on most passing plays.

 

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This kid makes the QB position look effortless. His footwork, pocket presence, going through progression, release, etc… look so easy and natural. 
 

The only concern on tape is he seems to slightly under throw some deep balls. His arm strength might be a B, but he is top notch in every other category. He’s young so filling out may help his arm strength, maybe he even grows an inch or two? Still young… huge commit! 

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Just saw he plans on being back on campus this weekend to help recruiting with the ‘23 and ‘24 classes. What a difference this makes to have a stub qb that wants to build it up around him rather than hoping and chasing 

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