I guess he wasn’t holding the program back after all. So glad ND has a pair of cool coaches that don’t know how to make adjustment at half. Oh but the players love them? Yeah, great. Honeymoon is over. Freeman better step it the frig up bc this was a disgrace. He should be ashamed.

Just now, Dardo said:

Is les miles a better coach than Kelly? Is coach O?

That sort of emphasizes what I mean.  The knock on Kelly is he couldn't win the big game, right?  Well, if he changes scenery to what is considered the toughest conference in the country and then proceeds to win a National Championship, it would seem to me that it would indicate there is something that needs to change at ND.  If, however he goes there and doesn't succeed the argument could be made that there isn't something wrong.  I'm not throwing any shade at him.  I was just curious what others think.  

1 minute ago, ckp160 said:

That sort of emphasizes what I mean.  The knock on Kelly is he couldn't win the big game, right?  Well, if he changes scenery to what is considered the toughest conference in the country and then proceeds to win a National Championship, it would seem to me that it would indicate there is something that needs to change at ND.  If, however he goes there and doesn't succeed the argument could be made that there isn't something wrong.  I'm not throwing any shade at him.  I was just curious what others think.  

I completely understand what you’re saying but I also think it’s possible that any top 25 coach could win a title at LSU, if LSU is what everyone is implying they are. 

Just now, Dardo said:

I completely understand what you’re saying but I also think it’s possible that any top 25 coach could win a title at LSU, if LSU is what everyone is implying they are.

I guess we'll see because Kelly is definitely a top 25 coach.  Anybody who argues otherwise is delusional.

1 minute ago, ckp160 said:

I guess we'll see because Kelly is definitely a top 25 coach.  Anybody who argues otherwise is delusional.

Worse coaches than Kelly have won titles as LSU. I don’t see what a theoretical title for Kelly at LSU has to do with anything.

1 minute ago, Dardo said:

Worse coaches than Kelly have won titles as LSU. I don’t see what a theoretical title for Kelly at LSU has to do with anything.

Let’s be frank here, if Bayou Brian was really making 7MM is $$ really the reason for leaving to LSU?

he bolted because he felt he could not not do more , ie could not win a NC at ND.  He might win one at LSU, but it won’t feel the same. He would have earned his statue at ND. But you need to be an ELITE coach to win it all here.  And you need to catch Bama on an off year. I mean, just look at them, they’re on another level…

1 minute ago, zemaniak said:

And you need to catch Bama on an off year. I mean, just look at them, they’re on another level…

Alabama is so dominant it's hurting the sport in my opinion.  I'm not saying they're doing anything dirty over there, but sheesh....... they sure aren't having any hiccups.  Their off years are dream seasons for 90% of schools.  I'm not even going to watch the title game because I don't care.  Another SEC championship.  Booooooring.

Just now, ckp160 said:

Alabama is so dominant it's hurting the sport in my opinion.  I'm not saying they're doing anything dirty over there, but sheesh....... they sure aren't having any hiccups.  Their off years are dream seasons for 90% of schools.  I'm not even going to watch the title game because I don't care.  Another SEC championship.  Booooooring.

JUCOs, money bags, but mostly Saban. That guy is on par with Belichik as otherwordly in his capabilities

10 minutes ago, ckp160 said:

Alabama is so dominant it's hurting the sport in my opinion.  I'm not saying they're doing anything dirty over there, but sheesh....... they sure aren't having any hiccups.  Their off years are dream seasons for 90% of schools.  I'm not even going to watch the title game because I don't care.  Another SEC championship.  Booooooring.

How do you compete with them? I think I heard Georgia has 40 or more top 100 recruits and 20 five stars? Our 2022 recruiting class was considered pretty good and we have ONE top 100 Recruit. And how many 5 stars on the roster…1 or 2? ND is 3 or 4 amazing classes away from competing with them. 

Edited January 2, 20222 yr by ndomer4

Good news: They got the Jahmir Gibbs kid from GA Tech too.  😆

1 minute ago, ndomer4 said:

How do you compete with them? I think I heard Georgia has 40 or more top 200 recruits and 20 five stars? Our 2022 recruiting class was considered pretty good and we have ONE top 100 Recruit. And how many 5 stars on the roster…1 or 2? ND is 3 or 4 amazing classes away from competing with them.

I have no idea.  Somebody at work showed me a thing where Saban could, legit, tell high school players every player he's recruited that stuck around has a national championship.  I didn't dig too deep on it, but that seems right.  Hard to counter that argument.

3 hours ago, cali_domer said:

You are my first ignore. Been a long time coming. 

Where is the ignore feature. I missed it

1 hour ago, TheRizz said:

Where is the ignore feature. I missed it

Click on your screen name and it is listed at the bottom of the dropdown. Type in the user you want to block and bam.

2 hours ago, ndomer4 said:

How do you compete with them? I think I heard Georgia has 40 or more top 100 recruits and 20 five stars? Our 2022 recruiting class was considered pretty good and we have ONE top 100 Recruit. And how many 5 stars on the roster…1 or 2? ND is 3 or 4 amazing classes away from competing with them. 

Wait for him to retire, that’s the only real answer.

13 minutes ago, cali_domer said:

Click on your screen name and it is listed at the bottom of the dropdown. Type in the user you want to block and bam.

You were one of the biggest gloom & doomers on here. Yeah, ND is much better off without Kelly, Freeman and his staff looked sharp today. This is what you deserve, you couldn’t wait for Kelly to leave and now when they go back to truly being mediocre, you’ll see how wrong you were.