1. Lack of range at linebacker

2. Lack of depth at corner

3. Inconsistent gap assignments

4. inexperience at corner

5, not utilizing the D-line consistently, 3down 4 down

 6. Injuries at LB and now FS

 7. tackling fundamentals, Thank you NDfanatic and soulpatch

 8. time in this system/scheme fits. Thank you OkelleyIrish

 9.  Finishing the play/appropriate pursuit. thanks NDHoosier

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Lack of tackling ability

35 minutes ago, ndfanatic78 said:

Lack of tackling ability

If I had to bet that has to to do with the lack of range too, because its like taking a charge in basketball if you beat the guy to the spot its easier to get your feet settled and wrap-up/

20 minutes ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

If I had to bet that has to to do with the lack of range too, because its like taking a charge in basketball if you beat the guy to the spot its easier to get your feet settled and wrap-up/

I see it differently. We're not making tackles from the dline or secondary as well, IMHO. We are generating pressure from the rush and consistently letting the QB escape after contact. I'm sure range and things like gap integrity factor into this but it's so pervasive an issue that I, personally, look at it as an issue in and of itself.

Need to have patience with scheme adaption, and getting players to fit the scheme.

Next year's LBs will go a long way IMO.

Need to do a lot better recruiting DBs.

4 minutes ago, OKelleyIrish said:

Need to have patience with scheme adaption, and getting players to fit the scheme.

Next year's LBs will go a long way IMO.

Need to do a lot better recruiting DBs.

I agree 100 percent with patience. I made a poll a few months ago about growing pains on defense. and wanted follow up with a strengths and weaknesses thread. So at the end of the season look for a strengths or growth thread maybe if you want we can collaborate?

20 minutes ago, soulpatch said:

I see it differently. We're not making tackles from the dline or secondary as well, IMHO. We are generating pressure from the rush and consistently letting the QB escape after contact. I'm sure range and things like gap integrity factor into this but it's so pervasive an issue that I, personally, look at it as an issue in and of itself.

You correctly Identify two parts.

 

1. getting there

2. act of tackling- fundamentally getting the ball carrier on the ground  

3 minutes ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

I agree 100 percent with patience. I made a poll a few months ago about growing pains on defense. and wanted follow up with a strengths and weaknesses thread. So at the end of the season look for a strengths or growth thread maybe if you want we can collaborate?

Sure. Happy to help.

I think it's really difficult though lol. One would really have to have a good grasp on Cinci's D while Freeman was there, and be able to kinda line things up by position. Otherwise, it's just kind of grade individuals, or perhaps the units as the year went along. Do we have anyone here that watched a lot of Cinci the last couple years?

Just now, OKelleyIrish said:

Sure. Happy to help.

I think it's really difficult though lol. One would really have to have a good grasp on Cinci's D while Freeman was there, and be able to kinda line things up by position. Otherwise, it's just kind of grade individuals, or perhaps the units as the year went along. Do we have anyone here that watched a lot of Cinci the last couple years?

Agreed. I know the goal at corner is to get where Cincy is now, tall guys who can cover

Linebacker- I think he needs the tall long guys that he recruited

D-Line more power rushers then speed. He likes coverage sacks not traditional pass rush.

Safety again more coverage

 

its a pass defense first.

The defense has the speed to get there, they are reading the defense pretty well, they are overpowering/outmaneuvering the Oline, but they are just not finishing the tackle. The UNC game was quite frustrating to watch because the defense always seemed to be in good position (except that one play), they just could not finish it.

Edited November 3, 20213 yr by NDhoosier

2 minutes ago, NDhoosier said:

The defense has the speed to get there, they are reading to the defense pretty well, they are overpowering/outmaneuvering the Oline, but they are just not finishing the tackle. The UNC was quite frustrating to watch because they defense always seemed to be in good position (except that one play), they just could not finish it.

Thanks NDhoosier added that to the opening post as well.

1 hour ago, OKelleyIrish said:

Need to have patience with scheme adaption, and getting players to fit the scheme.

Next year's LBs will go a long way IMO.

Need to do a lot better recruiting DBs.

He shouldn’t have changed the scheme if he didn’t have the players to play the new scheme. Any good coach worth a lick will adapt his scheme to the players he has not stick a round peg in a square hole. I will give Freeman some leeway because the defense has a ton of injuries, but that’s about it.

10 minutes ago, NDhoosier said:

The defense has the speed to get there, they are reading to the defense pretty well, they are overpowering/outmaneuvering the Oline, but they are just not finishing the tackle. The UNC was quite frustrating to watch because they defense always seemed to be in good position (except that one play), they just could not finish it.

There were plenty of times the dline did not contain their lanes and let the QB escape through the middle of the pocket. That is either coaching or stubborn players not listening to coaching.

Edited November 3, 20213 yr by ndfanatic78

Just now, ndfanatic78 said:

He shouldn’t have changed the scheme if he didn’t have the players to play the new scheme. Any good coach worth a lick will adapt his scheme to the players he has not stick a round peg in a square hole. I will give Freeman some leeway because the defense has a ton of injuries, but that’s about it.

Doesn't work like that. 

And we're not even going from a 4-3 to a 3-4. We're going to a flex system (4-3 and 3-4), that uses a "big" DE and a Vyper, and just prioritizes things differently. More chaos, more coverage, more looks... 

You're not going to hire a guy, then sit around in a scheme he doesn't coach, and loose a year of teaching just waiting on a new recruiting cycle.

What do you mean it doesn’t work like that? What doesn’t work like that? That good coaches adapt to their players and not force their system on the kids? Because it does work that way unless you are that great of a coach.